Mourinho | New old Chelsea manager

Real didn't behave that bad under Mourinho in most of the games. The games against Barca got to a whole new level in thuggishness and playacting. Other than that it was business as usual.

Not sure how many fights Bayern got into during the season but RM, under Mou, has gotten into plenty...and not just this season

BKgGCbVCYAEShRf.jpg
 
Not sure how many fights Bayern got into during the season but RM, under Mou, has gotten into plenty...and not just this season

BKgGCbVCYAEShRf.jpg

Well I meant that in comparison to spanish teams. There's always more drama in Spain compared to Germany.
 
Barcelona fans trying to take the moral high ground when it comes to 'acting like twats when losing' :lol::lol:

Unbelivable. Yet not surprising. :rolleyes:
 
In 08/09 in the league alone Madrid had 113 yellow cards.
Also under Jose, Madrid have been playing more games every season as they have been reaching semi finals etc, thus obviously getting more yellow cards. Under Jose their yellow cards in the league has been 90,91 and 96. Under Pellegrini they had 90. I'm not sure there is any proof that their overall discipline is worse, the playacting is for sure though.

You are indeed, but they also went far in the days of Vincent Del Bosque and were nowhere near the levels of thuggishness of Mourinho's team.
 
Barcelona fans trying to take the moral high ground when it comes to 'acting like twats when losing' :lol::lol:

Unbelivable. Yet not surprising. :rolleyes:

:confused: Meh, Guardiola and Vilanova have always been gracious in defeat.

Let alone the many red cards Madrid get at the end of virtually every important match they lose.. Ramos kicking Messi? Marcelo kicking Fabregas? Even Ronaldo is getting involved now..
 
Barcelona fans trying to take the moral high ground when it comes to 'acting like twats when losing' :lol::lol:

Unbelivable. Yet not surprising. :rolleyes:

I don't think anyone is taking the high-ground to be honest. I know that there are lots of posters on here who like Real Madrid over Barcelona for one reason or another. We are not really here to dispute as to why. Barcelona have Busquets, Alves, Pedro, Alba and even Mascherano. However, you take Real Madrid and the way they were under Vincent Del Bosque. They were quality players and they also had the likes of Guti who could be a cnut at times. However, this Real Madrid side has gone up a level of cuntishness. You only have to see when we had Di Maria, not once, but twice rolled around and then get back up straight away when nothing was given last night.

There was a tackle on Ramos last night and he went down and it looked to everyone as if he was in a bad way, and I was certain the Athletico player was going to get a red card. However, he jumped back up and he was as right as rain. There was the Ronaldo kick out and hand ball to which he didn't receive a yellow card. He kicked out once again and got the red which was deserved. There was also an instance where Ronaldo went down in agony, rolling around because his team lost the ball, only for Real's midfield to recuperate it right away and he was seen sprinting 5-6 seconds later.

Sorry, we can admit that Barcelona have a few cnuts in the team, but Real surpassed that level last night.
 
I think the referee was partly to blame for both teams antics last night. He gave a serious of strange invisible fouls all night, which just pisses the players off and sets tempers high.
 
Madrid are probably the worst team in Europe when it comes to antics on the field. When things don't go their way they require a very strong ref, which most of the time doesn't happen.
 
Except, you know. That guy with the name FC Barca trying to play down the level of sooky twattishness from Barca when they aren't getting it their own way.... :lol:

FCBarca does recognise that there are those who wish to spoil the good name of Barcelona. However, there are those who won't hear a bad word said about Real Madrid and refuse to believe that their club is rotten to the core too. It is as simple as that really. The fact of life in football I'm afraid.
 
Did the Real Madrid team bus run over your dog as a kid, dude?

Rotten to the core... fecking hell. You make it sound like we're responsible for all the genocides in history.
 
FCBarca does recognise that there are those who wish to spoil the good name of Barcelona. However, there are those who won't hear a bad word said about Real Madrid and refuse to believe that their club is rotten to the core too. It is as simple as that really. The fact of life in football I'm afraid.

:lol::lol: you're talking bollocks here mate.
 
Did the Real Madrid team bus run over your dog as a kid, dude?

Rotten to the core... fecking hell. You make it sound like we're responsible for all the genocides in history.

No Vato you need to accept it, rotten to the core, repeat and accept.

I also remember reading in a book that Meléndez himself drove all your Jewish players right into Auschwitz.

You are also devil worshipers and I'm most certain that Mou is Satan himself. :lol:

Seriously guys Real is like any other big football club, there are likable good lads in the team and there are total scumbags in the team.

Btw I'm fairly certain that half of the fans from other clubs thing Man United is rotten to the core and Fergie is the Anti-Christ, it's all about the perspective in the end.

Oh and of course Real would have won the league this year if the squad didn't start the season "sad". :lol:
 
Mourinho has broken another record. He's got the worst "across three seasons" trophy record of any Real Madrid manager in the past 60 years. The other managers who lasted for three seasons all brought home more in their first three years - even the worst one got a Liga and 2 Copas.

On a personal level his trophy rate has fallen to 1 per season (including the Supercopa) compared to his previous average of two.

If you've watched him (talking to the Spanish press) over the past month or so you'd certainly believe the rumours that he broke a peace agreement that Ramos and Ronaldo had negotiated with him. As soon as they lost away to Dortmund he allegedly stopped talking to the team and made those remarks to the press pinning the blame for the poor season on Ronaldo and Casillas.

Damage limitation for Mourinho's reputation outside Spain and no regard for the fact that his players had a second leg of the semifinal and a Copa del Rey final coming up. Allegedly.

However, we may yet see a last minute reconciliation between Mourinho and Ronaldo :lol: They're both in the Real Madrid doghouse for failing to get their losers medals from the King at the end of the match.

If the press are right, Mou didn't even send messages to Karanka after he got sent off - the subs were made by Karanka.
 
jojojo said:
...pinning the blame for the poor season on Ronaldo and Casillas.

Hilarious stuff from The Special None.
 
We hire Moyes, Chelsea hire Mourinho :mad:

6 years of Europa League obscurity awaits us.
 
A lot of vitriol towards Mourinho on here.

I think he's done a decent job there. Reigned in what was widely hailed as the best ever club team in the world whilst at their peak and took Madrid to 2 semi-finals (a marked improvement on their previous CL performances).

He won't have insurgency in the dressing room at Chelsea - Ivanovic, Cech, Terry, Lampard, Mata, Luiz, Hazard and Ba have already come out and said it would be amazing if he were to return.

No one can take on the egos in that Madrid dressing room, even the biggest managerial ego of all.
 
The problem doesn't really stem from Iker and Ramos's ego though. Other players at other clubs will have egos just as big. The problem lies far deeper within the club to the point where Jose is supposed to bow down to them. There is simply no other club in the world where no manager, whoever it is, could not be in complete control of the players. Fergie would have been in the exact same situation. He'd have told Casillas to feck off as well if he started leaking things behind his bacl.
 
Mourinho is an amazing coach who will bounce back from this stronger.

Ferguson himself admitted that he was exactly the same as Jose at the same age.
 
José knew what he was getting into - hell, even SAF warned him - but gambled on being able to bind the team together. Unfortunately for him, disgruntled senior players have a direct line to Perez & aren't shy of going to see him personally, to complain. In short, the whole thing was only going to work out if Real were amazingly successful from the very start...and if Mourinho behaved towards the senior players as Rodgers has done at Liverpool - with deference.
 
Today's Marca:

Mourinho leaves for Chelsea

Jose Mourinho is Chelsea next season. The Portuguese shall terminate his adventure at Real Madrid on June 30 and will return to England to face a second spell in the blues.

The Portuguese coach has already told his inner circle that the agreement with Chelsea is closed. His new target was the only thing left to know, because its output target set was a given since late last year.

Specifically, on December 3 Marca collected on its cover a resounding: 'Divorce in sight'. By then, it was reported that the relationship between Florentino Perez and Mourinho was broken, the cycle of the Portuguese in the Madrid drew to a close and the season would end amicably. Then in June, negotiate the terms of the termination. Said and done.

It has been six months of rumors about what the fate of Mourinho ahead of next season. Manchester City, United, PSG, Inter and Chelsea have been teams that have sounded. Finally, Abramovich and Mou is given a second chance.

At Chelsea and welcome. One of the team captains, Frank Lampard, and talks about the future that awaits with Portuguese again on the bench at Stamford Bridge. "With Mou at the helm everything will be fine. Return to launch at Chelsea. His return will be a big boost. Players who have not worked with him will understand soon," said the midfielder blue.
 
The problem doesn't really stem from Iker and Ramos's ego though. Other players at other clubs will have egos just as big. The problem lies far deeper within the club to the point where Jose is supposed to bow down to them. There is simply no other club in the world where no manager, whoever it is, could not be in complete control of the players. Fergie would have been in the exact same situation. He'd have told Casillas to feck off as well if he started leaking things behind his bacl.

Yes and no. The club needed a shake-up. The coach needed more freedom. Senior players, including Casillas, needed a wakeup call.

The trouble with Mourinho this season was that he won those battles - even the one with Casillas (if only as a result of Iker's girlfriend opening her mouth on camera - a magical "told you so" moment for Madrid soap opera lovers). The majority of fans were back on his side - having had a love hate relationship with him all season.

But as soon as the team lost, he went into his mock humility - "of course I'm to blame, even if...." and then actually declaring who he was going to blame this time, that is, one or more players, the refs, the fans, the press. It didn't build a "Fortress Madrid" mentality just one of perpetual angry hysteria and negativity between him and his players.

For months he's also been sending out that stuff about going where he would be loved and talking as if he was counting the seconds to getting away, despite another three years on his contract.

Since the Dortmund away defeat as far as I can tell it's all been about damage limitation on his reputation. If I was a Madrid fan I'd even think he was trying to get Madrid to sack him so there's no compensation going their way, and preferably some coming his.

Now, oddly enough, I say this as someone who wouldn't have minded him coming to us. Because I'm so sure we would have been a good influence on him :lol: If I was a Madrid fan though, I'd be as angry as hell.
 
Punto Pelota (Spanish football gossip show) says a clean break deal has been agreed for Mourinho to leave at the end of June. No compensation either way.

Despite me describing PP as a gossip show, they're usually right when they say that a deal has been done as opposed to when they are just sitting around chatting.
 
At Chelsea and welcome. One of the team captains, Frank Lampard, and talks about the future that awaits with Portuguese again on the bench at Stamford Bridge. "With Mou at the helm everything will be fine. Return to launch at Chelsea. His return will be a big boost. Players who have not worked with him will understand soon," said the midfielder blue.

If Lampard referred to Jose as "Mou", I'll eat my hat.
 
I'm amazed anyone can defend him to be honest. All in all he's been bad news for Madrid.

AS stat for today - Mourinho has 127 victories to go with his three trophies (1 liga, 1 CDR, 1 Supercopa) while Del Bosque won five trophies with just 93 victories
 
I'm amazed anyone can defend him to be honest. All in all he's been bad news for Madrid.

AS stat for today - Mourinho has 127 victories to go with his three trophies (1 liga, 1 CDR, 1 Supercopa) while Del Bosque won five trophies with just 93 victories

Del Bosque did not have to compete with Barcelona tbh.

Looking at things completely from a footballing perspective I don't think he's done too badly considering he was up again one of the best sides of all time.
 
Del Bosque did not have to compete with Barcelona tbh.

Looking at things completely from a footballing perspective I don't think he's done too badly considering he was up again one of the best sides of all time.

Only in his first season. In the last 2 season there has been a very noticeable decline. Still he was brought to win the CL and didn't get to final and was eliminated twice by teams who were not Barcelona.

Their title defence this season was dreadful. there's really no excuse for him, especially being up against Vilanova this year.
 
Del Bosque did not have to compete with Barcelona tbh.

The quality of the league was far superior when Del Bosque was around, Valencia & Deportivo were among the best sides in Europe around that time. Was hell of a lot harder to win the league then. The quality of the league right now is a joke in comparison.
 
I dont really get why he would want to get back to Chelsea. He didnt leave on the best terms, quiete the opposite, he was fired. Or am I missing something'