Mourinho | New old Chelsea manager

I don't give a shit where he's going as long as he gets the feck out of Madrid. I'm fed up with this clown now.

Only yesterday he came out saying that as long as he is a manager for Madrid, Lopez would be in goal... Never have I seen a professional manager holding a club ransom like he is doing now at the expense of a club legend.

Then Pepe came out defending Casillas saying that Casillas wasn't the bad guy in this whole affair and Mourinho replied that Pepe said that only because he's frustrated by Varane being a better defender.

He can feck right off, seriously.

I did pick on that on another thread yesterday. Mourinho has been at his very worst this week and, for all the admiration I have for his CV, the need for a big personality after SAF, etc. I find myself not half-minding Moyes instead.

It could be a rubbish couple of years ahead with him getting his head around it, earning respect, attracting the right players, etc. but I'd rather that than the upheaval of losing most of our coaching staff, alienating some very loyal players and ultimately turning into a rather defensive outfit.

Let's just hope he can get Bale signed, which will make up for him signing probably too defenisve a midfielder, at least that's not something we will have to worry about any more :lol:
 
:lol: Players at your club have too much power. Wake up.
I know our club isn't perfect, but what this guy is doing is beyond ridiculous. If you want to go so badly just hand in your resignation letter, don't sit there spouting bullshit in the hope you get your €10m before you feck off to another club.

:lol:

What the hell is going on there?

TBF, I think a lot of people have forgot what a massive whingey arsehole the man was in his final season or two at Chelsea.

The only reason for wanting him is he's a proven winner. He has literally nothing else going for him.
I don't remember much about his period at Chelsea but it's not very hard to believe in fairness. It's like he needs drama surrounding his person, what a fecking attention whore. Maybe Casillas leaked a few things to the press, it could be true, who knows. What I do know is that Casillas wouldn't do the things this clown does to discredit our club as bad as he's done over the years.
he's basically been begging to be sacked vato. He thinks he's bigger than your club, he's sadly mistaken :lol:
Completely right, and on the one hand I hope Flortentino pays him the 10m so I don't have to go through another year of this bullshit. But on the other hand I don't because it will give him what he wants. I'd almost take fecking Benitez at this point, seriously.
 
According to Ben Smith (BBC Journo) he was told yesterday that we wanted Mourinho...
 
Come on Vato, you had to have seen this coming. Mou always wears his welcome out, the consequence of doing everything through derision. My favorite and most predictable of all is his exit strategy, trying to get fired to avoid the penalty clause - I'm sure this is his favorite part, as well

Perez sold the club out, banking that Mou would deliver what their rivals were producing in spades - it was always going to end badly
 
So a Real Madrid supporter comes on begging for him to feck off but would should get him?

Well Everton fans were booing Moyes not too long ago. Yet he's the front runner.
 
I know our club isn't perfect, but what this guy is doing is beyond ridiculous. If you want to go so badly just hand in your resignation letter, don't sit there spouting bullshit in the hope you get your €10m before you feck off to another club. .

That's an understatement mate. The relationship between the board, fans and manager/team borders on dysfunctional. Not sure if it's the peculiar nature of club structures in La Liga, but having presidents poke into affairs so much can't be good for the club.

There are better ways of leaving though, I would agree.

I don't remember much about his period at Chelsea but it's not very hard to believe in fairness. It's like he needs drama surrounding his person, what a fecking attention whore. Maybe Casillas leaked a few things to the press, it could be true, who knows. What I do know is that Casillas wouldn't do the things this clown does to discredit our club as bad as he's done over the years..

I find Casillas leaking stuff out to the press absolutely reprehensible. Lesser managers would be dominated by Casillas and his crew. Mourinho wouldn't stand for it, so what happened next with his reaction wasn't a surprise.

Completely right, and on the one hand I hope Flortentino pays him the 10m so I don't have to go through another year of this bullshit. But on the other hand I don't because it will give him what he wants. I'd almost take fecking Benitez at this point, seriously.

:eek:

Careful of what you wish for...
 
:(

I think I'm still trying to cling onto the slimmest glimmer of hope.

Achievements--------------Mourinho-----Moyes

Won the PL-----------------Yes----------No
Won the FA Cup------------Yes----------No
Won the Community Shield---Yes---------No
Won the CL-----------------Yes---------No
Won the Serie A------------Yes----------No
Won La liga-----------------Yes----------No
Managed top sides----------Yes----------No
CL experience---------------Yes----------No
Managed a team of stars----Yes----------No
Attracts players-------------Yes---------Meh
Attracts media--------------Yes---------Meh
Attracts sponsors-----------Yes---------Meh
Can handle pressure---------Yes---------NK

This is what Fergie has to consider, he has surely not arrived to Moyes!
 
Achievements--------------Mourinho-----Moyes

Won the PL-----------------Yes----------No
Won the FA Cup------------Yes----------No
Won the Community Shield---Yes---------No
Won the CL-----------------Yes---------No
Won the Serie A------------Yes----------No
Won La liga-----------------Yes----------No
Managed top sides----------Yes----------No
CL experience---------------Yes----------No
Managed a team of stars----Yes----------No
Attracts players-------------Yes---------Meh
Attracts media--------------Yes---------Meh
Attracts sponsors-----------Yes---------Meh
Can handle pressure---------Yes---------NK

This is what Fergie has to consider, he has surely not arrived to Moyes!

Achievements--------------Mourinho-----Moyes

Being Scottish----------------No---------Yes-
 
Achievements--------------Mourinho-----Moyes

Is a fecking clown ----------Yes---------No

:lol:

And this is from a Madrid fan.

Lets look at this realistically, did Mourinho ever tick all the boxes to become Manchester United manager? No. And I reckon this will pain him, to be honest.
 
Take the list and twist it as much as you want in Moyes favour and see what you come up With!
 
I see United as a completely different kettle of fish though to Madrid in terms of structure.
 
So Vato is not loving Mourinho anymore. Will he love the next 10 Madrid managers that will succeed him in the last 3 years though?

Mourinho is talking some bullshit, but Casillas instead of acting the captain acted the prick. And no-one at a club is bigger than the manager. Lopez had done well, so it's completely reasonable what Mourinho has done.
 
Indeed. I wouldn't mind seeing Mourinho take exactly the same route as Sir Alex did and win a league with a small team like St. Mirren. Secondly, to do what Sir Alex did, and is still the only manager to have done it, and that is to break the Glasgow monopoly and beat Real Madrid in Europe in spite of having a team with players that no-one has ever heard of. We speak about Moyes on how he has limited experience as far as the big league is concerned, but so did Sir Alex when he first came here. If Moyes has the same sort of character as Sir Alex does, the same mentality, the same hunger, the motivation then, he can get far. If Redcafe had been created before 1986, I could just imagine the posts like, let us sign (insert successful top-level manager of your choice) since this Alex Ferguson has only got experience with Aberdeen, hardly what you may call First Division quality.

Were you around then? If not, shut it mate!
 
Achievements--------------Mourinho-----Moyes

Won the PL-----------------Yes----------No
Won the FA Cup------------Yes----------No
Won the Community Shield---Yes---------No
Won the CL-----------------Yes---------No
Won the Serie A------------Yes----------No
Won La liga-----------------Yes----------No
Managed top sides----------Yes----------No
CL experience---------------Yes----------No
Managed a team of stars----Yes----------No
Attracts players-------------Yes---------Meh
Attracts media--------------Yes---------Meh
Attracts sponsors-----------Yes---------Meh
Can handle pressure---------Yes---------NK

This is what Fergie has to consider, he has surely not arrived to Moyes!

Were you around then? If not, shut it mate!

Take a look at the table and you will see that what I said pretty much rings true. Change the name from Moyes to Sir Alex Ferguson circa 1986, and you will find that he doesn't tick all the boxes either. As for the "being around then", of course I was, being born in 1973. :D He won trophies with Aberdeen and I respect that, against all odds, he did the impossible and broke the Glasgow monopoly. Look at us now, 26 years later and he has won a bucketload of trophies. So, for arguments sake, I will not shut up.

Edit:

I started well back in the good old days of Ron Atkinson when he first signed Robbo from the Baggies. I lived through those average times, and I remembered the day Moran was sent off in the final, where Whiteside scored a marvellous goal that day. I still remember Robbo when he scored against France in the 1982 world cup, the fastest goal at that time, when he scored inside of 27 seconds. I didn't have much confidence in Sir Alex at the time, in fact, I never even heard of him since I was only interested in English football and not Scottish. As a fan, I remembered the hard times, the doubts were slowly seeping through, but when you are a football fan, you stick with your team through thick and thin, and if Sir Bobby could show that he has confidence then, show should we.

In the end, it paid off and we are all happy for that. We all knew that Sir Alex was going to retire at some point, so, be prepared for it. I was, and to be honest, the fact that Moyes is our new manager doesn't disappoint me one little bit. We have had so much joy and success that we have become a little bit spoilt. The next 12 months will be interesting to see how many of us will still be behind Moyes. I know I will be.
 
So Vato is not loving Mourinho anymore. Will he love the next 10 Madrid managers that will succeed him in the last 3 years though?

Mourinho is talking some bullshit, but Casillas instead of acting the captain acted the prick. And no-one at a club is bigger than the manager. Lopez had done well, so it's completely reasonable what Mourinho has done.

This is where you are wrong and where Mourinho is wrong. MAdrid as a club is much bigger than Mourinho and the fans and much bigger than Mourinho. The fans own the club in MAdrid.... and at the end of the day the fans vote for a President...so I guess the president is the 'biggest' person in the club.
 
This is where you are wrong and where Mourinho is wrong. MAdrid as a club is much bigger than Mourinho and the fans and much bigger than Mourinho. The fans own the club in MAdrid.... and at the end of the day the fans vote for a President...so I guess the president is the 'biggest' person in the club.

Hence it being referred to as the circus.
 
Puerile bickering, endless self pity and unfettered buffoonery. Unfailing occurrences at every club he's been to.

And the leopard won't change those spots, no matter how fanciful the idea of 'settling down' and turning a new leaf might be to us.
 
I don't give a shit where he's going as long as he gets the feck out of Madrid. I'm fed up with this clown now.

Only yesterday he came out saying that as long as he is a manager for Madrid, Lopez would be in goal... Never have I seen a professional manager holding a club ransom like he is doing now at the expense of a club legend.

Then Pepe came out defending Casillas saying that Casillas wasn't the bad guy in this whole affair and Mourinho replied that Pepe said that only because he's frustrated by Varane being a better defender.

He can feck right off, seriously.

:lol:

Some men just want to watch the world burn.
 
I don't give a shit where he's going as long as he gets the feck out of Madrid. I'm fed up with this clown now.

Only yesterday he came out saying that as long as he is a manager for Madrid, Lopez would be in goal... Never have I seen a professional manager holding a club ransom like he is doing now at the expense of a club legend.

Then Pepe came out defending Casillas saying that Casillas wasn't the bad guy in this whole affair and Mourinho replied that Pepe said that only because he's frustrated by Varane being a better defender.

He can feck right off, seriously.

Bloody circus. :lol:
 
This is where you are wrong and where Mourinho is wrong. MAdrid as a club is much bigger than Mourinho and the fans and much bigger than Mourinho. The fans own the club in MAdrid.... and at the end of the day the fans vote for a President...so I guess the president is the 'biggest' person in the club.

That shouldn't be though. For that they change managers like Chelsea.

Casillas was the captain, but he looked that instead uniting the dressing room, he divided it. Then those ultimatums for Mourinho sack. Lopez did excellent, so really I don't think that Mourinho did anything wrong in this case.

Anyway, I'll bet that the next manager will stay less than him. It is an impossible job. Heck, they sack you even if you win the UCL (Heycknes Del Bosque etc).