He's going to win the Champions. When that game finished, that was my first thought that went into my mind.
Mourinho | New old Chelsea manager
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Mourinho has lost it. He has created a atmosphere around himself, the players and the club which was bound to explode. He's only got himself to blame. Good coach, but as Ive always said, never wanted him at my club.
Well, he's got his work cut out then, because unlike the previous CL campaigns, there are probably 4 or 5 teams that have the quality to knock Madrid out of the CL. Three of those teams are coasting through their leagues at the moment (Barca, Bayern, Juve) ,one has given up just like Madrid (Dortmund), and one is comfortable at the top (United). They all can afford to rest some players and drop a few points in the second half of the season just like Madrid can/will, and what's more, three of those teams are waiting in the round of 16 draw.
A bit of a clash there. It's not like Real Madrid have a history of unwavering support to their own managers, and plenty with a lot more soft and friendly composure have had everything turn against them as well.
Obviously with Mourinho this was going to end bad, and it only took this long because he's the best manager they can have.
Obviously with Mourinho this was going to end bad, and it only took this long because he's the best manager they can have.
Oh, look another set of fans turn against him
How often has this happened though? In the 3 clubs he had in Portugal, never. He had a few troubles in Porto when he left but that was due to some more fanatic sections of club followers expecting more "loyalty" or whatever (frankly I'm not even sure if it was just rumours), he never did anything to antagonize the bulk of supporters.
Chelsea fans seem to still love him and would unanimously take him back in a heart beat.
I know little to nothing about Inter support but from the only fan I knew (a departed caftard, Interista) he was well liked there.
So, what fans turned against him?
Whatever will happen when he leaves Real, he will have done a great job there.I'm saying this and I really hate him, it hasn't been easy for him to compete against the best ever Barcelona side
If he leaves with his biggest achievement being one league title I think that's a failure. He can rescue it with the 'la decima' which he was brought in to secure.
A completely valid point.
. In my head a lot of Porto/Inter fans hated him, but thinking about it, that might me projecting my own feelings towards him. Stop!
Ok maybe not as comfortable as the others because they don't have a Man City breathing down their necks, but would you honestly say if United drew Madrid In the round of 16, and there is still a 6 points cushion come Feb, that SAF wouldn't prioritise the midweek ties over the league games at the weekend?Not if we end up behind Atletico this season. You'd have to say Simeone did a hell of a lot better considering the squads.
Dude stop, Fergie reads the cafe. Do you want him to pick Scholes and Giggs in midfield?
There is also one Copa Del Rey (don't say it's not important seeing the who they played in the final and how they celebrated it).It's this season CL's that will make Mourinho's spell at Madrid as a true success or average passage
You're way too pessimistic.There is no way Atletico will finish above Real Madrid.It just won't happen
Vato, how confident are you of finishing ahead of them? As a Madrid fan you would have pretty much seen them (A.Madrid) as bottlers most of your life considering how you always bum them in the derbies, do you reckon they can actually put up a fight for second place?
A completely valid point.
They worship him tbf
FFS Sky, I'm completely wrong! Do you have to rub it in
Ill get my coat darth vader....
Don't get me wrong, I know they'll probably bottle it somewhere in the next few weeks but I don't want to sound cocky or downplay what they have achieved so far this season, you just never know in football. They have won enough silverware in the past with teams that aren't much better than the one they have now. Not saying they can challenge Barcelona for the league but they could challenge us for that second spot if they don't run out of gas, which I doubt.
So this is what a Chelsea fan sent to me right now.
^ take nothing away from jose, he is a born winner. but sir alex is something else. what he has done to a football club like united for the last 2 and a half decade is just pure amazingness. even jose would be first to acknowledge that.
Yup, but Jose's next 20 years is nothing short of pure amazingness as well (unless he went mental and do a cock)
So this is what a Chelsea fan sent to me right now.
I think he has half the trophies that SAF has achieved in 30 years already, only ten years into his career.
Obviously different circumstances etc but still a great achievement.
I dont wanna take anything away from Jose, he's a great coach and could take over any other manager in terms of trophies. But to compare the start of both managers is not entirely fair imo as Fergie took over a club in a complete different state than Jose. He had a very good team at Porto, then joined super rich clubs like Chelsea, Inter and Madrid. It took Fergie years and years to get United back on track and in a "healthy" condition
Yeah its a rather ridiculous comparison, although Mourinho does compare quite favorably with Fergie when you compare both form 2000-12.
You're not wrong.
Still, to have won the league, cup, Uefa cup and CL 3 years into your managerial career is astonishing. What he achieved at Porto was amazing.
Still, to have won the league, cup, Uefa cup and CL 3 years into your managerial career is astonishing. What he achieved at Porto was amazing.
What Sir Alex achieved with Aberdeen was equally impressive, imo. No idea why this was left out in that stupid comparison. It doesn't make sense at all to compare Mourinho's career to Ferguson's, to start with Ferguson's time at United is even more strange if you want to compare the first 12 years.
Agreed. The Glasgow monopoly of the Scottish league was incredible and for an unknown manager at that time to have broken that monopoly took incredible tactical nous against the financial giants of the Scottish league. Personally, 10 trophies in 4 years for Sir Alex in Scotland is a greater achievement with the resources he had. Another thing he is capable of is building teams from scratch and use youngsters and be successful. I have yet to see a Mourinho team do that. Money can earn success sometimes, but when you build teams up, the success at the end must bring even more pleasure.
Yeah, that comparison is clearly agenda driven.
This comparison is getting stupid
They're both quality and class manager (regardless of who your cock reacts is another matter)
But they've both got nothing to prove, SAF just happens to have 20 years longer in the job than Mourinho.
But all and all, SAF = Great and Legendary while Mourinho = Great and will be legendary one day
There's no need to belittle Mourinho even if you don't like him. The trophies doesn't lie, specially when you have heaps of them
They're both quality and class manager (regardless of who your cock reacts is another matter)
But they've both got nothing to prove, SAF just happens to have 20 years longer in the job than Mourinho.
But all and all, SAF = Great and Legendary while Mourinho = Great and will be legendary one day
There's no need to belittle Mourinho even if you don't like him. The trophies doesn't lie, specially when you have heaps of them
Good comments by both him and SAF after the draw. Showing great respect to each other.
Any links?
SAF: "It will be a great opportunity for our fans to see Cristiano again and also for me to meet up with Jose again - I'll need to order some good wine."
Thanks, what did Mourinho say?
The press are going to have a field day in the build up to this.
You are missing out the important part where he took Aberdeen to the European Cup Winners Cup final and beat Real Madrid to win it.
That was incredible.
It's gonna be a friendly match in good spirits
They respect each other too much for a drama
They respect each other too much for a drama
Sorry, it wasn't intentional. I included the trophy in the number of trophies won. The fact that he did it with St Mirren, Aberdeen and then Manchester United speaks more volumes about the man. He started off with a small team, went on to an average team at best, about the size of a Norwich or West Brom, and then came to us. He has nothing else to prove now. He is, the best!!