He'd probably get more than he had at Porto or Inter.
Mourinho | New old Chelsea manager
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He'd probably get more than he had at Porto or Inter.
He has funded his Porto team with less than €10m if I remember correctly and his Inter side was built with money they got for Ibrahimovic.
He didn't buy either of them Einstein. He joined them last season.
His signings at Real Madrid:
Sahin, Callejon, Varane, Coentrao, Altintop last year.
Canales, Carvalho, Di Maria, Özil, Khedira, Pedro Leon two years ago.
Considering Di Maria, Özil and Khedira have been instrumental this season, Callejon and Varane have shown a lot od promise, Carvalho was useful at times for little money his transfer record has been pretty good. Altintop is a decent utility man signed for nothing too. Pedro Leon stands out as a bad deal but he has already been loaned out, same with Canales. I'm not sure about Coentrao and Sahin, they've both been hit and miss.
Sahin, Callejon, Varane, Coentrao, Altintop last year.
Canales, Carvalho, Di Maria, Özil, Khedira, Pedro Leon two years ago.
Considering Di Maria, Özil and Khedira have been instrumental this season, Callejon and Varane have shown a lot od promise, Carvalho was useful at times for little money his transfer record has been pretty good. Altintop is a decent utility man signed for nothing too. Pedro Leon stands out as a bad deal but he has already been loaned out, same with Canales. I'm not sure about Coentrao and Sahin, they've both been hit and miss.
When you look at how people used to bemoan that Rooney and Tevez was sacrificed for Ronaldo to shine when he was with us, I think the best thing he did with Real is probably getting Benzema, Higuain, Ozil and Ronaldo playing together in the same team. They have been absolutely outstanding.
Think Mourinho's going to be disappointed if he's waiting for us, Fergies grooming Moyes.
Will never happen.
The Canales and Pedro Leon deals were done pre-Mourinho. The only thing Mourinho did was ask to keep Canales with the Madrid squad rather than letting him stay at Racing for another year.
Sahin is still a mystery, arrived injured and has never caught up.
Coentrao is one of those mystery deals from Portugal
He's not a bad player, but you wonder why they need him and it sometimes looks like Mourinho's looking for chances to play him rather than him forcing his way into the team.But given he has no track record in this area, it is surely a risk for us all the same?
I think mourinho will come to utd for the long haul. He has had his 2-3 year, spending powered glory clubs, the next step for him is to show he is capable of building a successful squad over time, which is what he will do at United.
I've thought Moyes would be a good choice for many years and definitely the right mentality in terms of leadership and discipline that is needed to follow SAF. I was disappointed with his tactics in the cup semi recently though, very negative and failed to react to the situation quickly enough. Liverpool were there for the taking IMO and I can only hope that he would have more attacking intent if he managed us. He'd certainly ensure that we maintain a strong work ethic off the ball.
Who has that track record?? Moyes o'neil blanc et al dont have them. At least jose have the track record of being succesful
Well, Moyes have introduced a few young players into Everton side but none of them apart from Rooney have made a lasting impression and Rooney was sold at 18. Players like Rodwell and Barkley recently have looked fine at the beginning but quickly faded and dropped their level.
Real Madrid reserves are going to win their division this season. They still have to win a playoff to go up to the Adelante, but if they get there then they've got a much stronger basis for bringing young players through. Mourinho prioritised it for the club last year.
He gave lots of the reserves first team debuts last year, less so this year. He told the press he wanted to see the reserves win their league, and he wouldn't take their players out of their games unless he was actually planning to play them. So was the telling the truth or just dodging criticism? Who knows, but at least he goes to their games.
Before he went to Real, there were complains about his style of play. He put those fears to rest once he got there. I fully believe that given a long term job at a club rather than a short term project, he'l look to do much better with Youth than he has so far.
Regarding him taking over here, not in favor of that. Too many antics and issues off the pitch. Would love Guardiola here though. No to Moyes as well fwiw.
Regarding him taking over here, not in favor of that. Too many antics and issues off the pitch. Would love Guardiola here though. No to Moyes as well fwiw.
Haterz gonna hate.
People who don't like Mourinho are known to comically clutch at straws and when one reason is exposed as ridiculous they simply move on to the next thing. "He's a cnut" is a popular one. Believe it or not, some were actually criticizing the fact the clubs he left began to play poorly afterwards, as a reason why he shouldn't come to United. Some really shallow, unenlightened arguments floating about these days.
Let's not forget Chelsea beat this side with a lot worse players. Its more to do with Barca not being at their best and of course what Pogue said about two sides playing each other so much, Real were bound to win one eventually.
Chelsea beat them with enormous amounts of luck, without really performing well. Real nullified them completely, they had like two clear cut chances in the entire game and Real were the better team for large parts of the game. Those were two completely different games.
Moyes has done a good job at Everton on a budget - but it's totally different to managing United.
Much easier to do well when nobody expects you to do it - much, much harder when you're expected to win every year. Also different buying player for £5 or £6 million who may or may not do well than having to spend top dollar on a player who has to do the job. Needs to move on to a bigger club soon if he's ever gonna get the chance to manage at the very top.
To me its a no brainer to give the job to Mourinho. In my view one of the very few managers in the world with the personality to follow Fergie, and enough of a reputation to not be compared, as well as being almost certain to bring success without needing to spend hundreds of millions every summer.
I agree with what you're saying but are you accusing me of being one of them because i dont want him here too? I totally respect him for his on the field achievements, its just that there's a lot of drama that goes on when he's at the helm. The eye gauging bit in a recent classico is actually the incident that made me feel we'd be better off without him. But ofcourse, if he can cut that bit of his personality out, he'd be great for us.
The 2 games were entirely different, you'd be blind not to see the difference. Chelsea rode their luck all game and took the only chance they created. Real on the other hand were the better team yesterday. It isnt the first time they've won either, they beat them in the Copa final too. Remember the last clasico, Real were better in that game as well.
Slowly but surely, Mourinho has made real into a unit that can compete with Barca. It has nothing to do with being tired, Real played midweek too.
Makes me laugh that one - other than United fans Fergie is hated by p[retty muich every other fan in the country. Success breeds contempt.
Mourinho is a top manager, one of the best of all time - his record proves it. I also like the fact that he has an edge, makes him entertaining - in exactly the same way the Fergie is. Never a dull moment.
Fans being the keyword. You'd struggle to find managers across the globe who dont respect Sir Alex. The same cannot be said about Mourinho.
No, I wasn't. I was agreeing with you and using your post to highlight the comically half-thought-out views of others.
If you're looking to replace Fergie, Mourinho is clearly the outstanding candidate.
Fair enough then. It'd be very interesting to see Mourinho at his next club though, whichever it might be(Just not City hopefully
). It'l almost surely be a long term project and should really give him the chance to build a team long term.I can think of a few managers who've not respected Sir Alex when they are in competition with him.
This.
I'll b shocked if there are many managers out there who don't respect Mourinho. As controversial as he is
Wenger? Thats perhaps the only one i can think of. Dont say Benitez. He was a tool, played to the deluded Scouse fans.
didn't that fat crawley town manager disrespect him?
Really? He created a lot of outrage in England with Wenger and personal remarks about him. Same in Italy with Ranieri. I remember Guardiola responding with something along the lines of "i dont agree and i'd need to change if Mourinho thinks so" when told Mourinho considers them similar in nature.
With Sir Alex, its only mind games when the title run in gets close, Mourinho seems to lack respect at times for his fellow professionals.
Show me a manager who hasn't said anything out of order against a fellow manager. They all do it, it's all part and parcel of the game. The only difference is that Mourinho makes no qualms about it.
Even SAF has ever caused outrage. Yet he is still respected.
Believe you me. Folks respect Mourinho. Even though he annoys them.
No doubt about it. I have full confidence in whatever Fergie does, Mourinho comes closest and he is probably a better manager than Fergie right now.
Why not? Lots of people want Moyes.
Can't see past him myself. If Moyes had signed on as Fergie's number two instead of going to Everton, he'd be in with a shout, but not now.
Many of those people are clutching at Moyes, not because of anything he's accomplished, but simply because they don't want Mourinho.
Wenger and Benitez had publicly disrespected Ferguson. Benitez was playing to the fans, no doubt about it, but I'd say there was a genuine lack of respect there. There's also an overweight Crawley manager as well apparently, but I don't remember that. I'm sure they all respect his achievements, but I'm sure that's true of Mourinho as well.
Because he has never won anything, never achieved anything really significant in 10 years, never done anything in Europe, never qualified for the Champions League, never wins derbies, he's never managed a big club and the best thing he's ever done is reach an FA Cup Final by beating our reserves on penalties after we got screwed by the officials. His sides don't even play good football.
It really does baffle me that people want him as our next manager, Roy Hodgson and Steve McClaren are better candidates, they have actually been successful at some point in their careers. I could name at least 10 more stronger candidates than him.
I don't dislike Moyes and he's done fantastic at Everon but he's done nothing to suggest he's capable of taking over at United. No trophies and next to no European experience. Not a chance it'll happen.
I wonder if Mourinho would fancy the challenge. I reckon he'd have to be promised a nice transfer kitty to come to us. I know it has been quite blatantly hinted by him through his friends that United is his dream job, but I can just see him going to City and spending a load of wonga. Personally I think he's great and would love him at OT whenever the time comes.