Apologies. Didnt notice that. But still. I find the whole situation to be strange. The comments Jose made were very damning. Hinting at problems with fitness, attitude application. 2 days later he plays him.
Mourinho: "Luke Shaw a long way behind" | Shaw: "I will fight to the last second"
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Apologies. Didnt notice that. But still. I find the whole situation to be strange. The comments Jose made were very damning. Hinting at problems with fitness, attitude application. 2 days later he plays him.
Cant stand the fecker. But have no need to justify any hatred. Hate is not a nice emotion. I just want to see the team play well, win matches and compete. We are not doing that currently and look a long way away from being able to do that.
You need to relax pal, with all the kneejerking around here you'd think we were close to relegation. It's been a frustrating season surely, but we've got a very strong base in place. We just have some minor issues we need to iron out, like the Shaw issue. Whether or not he stays I really couldn't give a feck but we need him to pull his socks up and make that position his own, or we need to sell him and buy a LB. we can't keep ignoring such a vital position in today's game.
With some fresh new faces, maybe some wingers that can actually play on the wing rather than converted strikers, we could see a completely different team. You have to just look at how a player like Suarez transformed Barca, some fresh new faces of the required quality and we could look a completely different side.
I believe (hope) people will be pleasantly surprised by what Jose can do with us. I don't want us to turn into the typical European clubs who decide to sack managers every two seasons, we desperately need some stability, especially because we refuse to hire a DOF. All this chopping and changing is why we have no identity and random players all brought in for different footballing ideologies, it's a vicious cycle that needs to stop.
He's a miserable git and a bit of Cnut, everyone knows that, he'd say as much himself, but once we get winning again he'll be much more likeable. Also, a Cnut is exactly what we need right now, we've been nice and reserved to these players for years now. You just have to look at Wenger to see where being nice and not challenging your players gets you as a club. We just aren't good enough to be able to nurse players with the wrong mentalities through games, the sport has become much too competitive for that. He's a Cnut but anyone who wasn't would get gobbled up with the pressure of steadying the shambles that this clubs running has gotten us into since even before SAF left.
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Point is we're chasing the game, Shaw is the a better attacking option left. If not for Young's injury, Shaw wouldn't be subbed in.
Darmian is clear tactical defensive option only. He is played in game we need to defensive tactical discipline & his attacking ability is not what he gets picked for games. Any attacking contribution is bonus but not really a must which people often get frustrated for even in games Darmian fulfilled his role. Here Mourinho talked about Shaw who failed to play the game without being on the right side and keep receiving instruction.
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Never mind, just pointed out that Shaw wasn't "on the bench ahead of Darmian". Agree with your post.
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Doesn't understand Mourinho sometimes. Its like he has two personalities or something. Why would you slate someone and then play him two days later?
I'm a massive Mourinho supporter by the way.
I'm a massive Mourinho supporter by the way.
Jose basically saying Shaw has no football brain and he needed to tell him what to do from the dugout. Hard to know what to make of that with Jose.
There was no point of saying what he said.
Ive just seen the latest comments and they are even more brutal than 2 days ago.
I've read the quotes but not seen it on video - is there anyway we could be misinterpreting them and that he's actually happy with him in that now he's finally playing the way Jose wants (ie. with my brain and his body in the sense he's understandw what Jose wants from him)
The video is even more damning tbh.
There were reports that Shaw sought to talk to him in training after the comments and Jose agreed to include him in the squad. Luke probably asked for a chance to prove himself.
Just bizarre comments again from Mourinho.
I don't think Jose thought Shaw would have any impact on the game last night, from what I seen he looked decent and won the penalty. I think this is Jose trying to save face, "yes he was good but I was telling him what to do" kind of thing.
Could be the pressure is getting to him as I doubt Jose has faced a challenge like this in his carreer. When you are under pressure it can come out in various ways, kind of a vent. I really don't see how these last 2 interviews have helped his squad confidence. It's the kind of comments that can cause division in the changing room. It's not the first time this has happened to him.
Could be the pressure is getting to him as I doubt Jose has faced a challenge like this in his carreer. When you are under pressure it can come out in various ways, kind of a vent. I really don't see how these last 2 interviews have helped his squad confidence. It's the kind of comments that can cause division in the changing room. It's not the first time this has happened to him.
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It's a race against time with Jose, he'll implode at some point, it's just a matter of getting success before he does.
Best behaviour for the first few months but you can see his true character poking through now. The guy lives off contention and argument.
Reading his comments again this morning I don't recall a more brutal takedown of a player.
Best behaviour for the first few months but you can see his true character poking through now. The guy lives off contention and argument.
Reading his comments again this morning I don't recall a more brutal takedown of a player.
Where does this myth of one of the most successful managers in the world implodes all the time come from? Last season?
Last season sure, a massive meltdown. His career is also punctuated before and since with similar behaviour. It's starting to happen now, all talk of enemies, constant moaning, going out of his way to publically criticise players. There are guys in this squad who know one bad game and they're out.
Not sure why you've mentioned his success. He is of course very successful but it's not relevant here. This is about a guy who can argue in an empty room. If he doesn't get success soon this approach won't end well.
I thought Jose's public comments on why Shaw was not in team was ok. But yesterday's rant was a very much not needed. Even if Jose loaned his brains or something, there was no need to tell everyone about it. It was not like someone asked him "You said Shaw is useless, how did he play ok for 10 mins?"
Because history says he does. First / Second stint at Chelsea and at Real - he lost the dressing room after too many comments that were not needed against players. I think the only one he didn't lose was at Inter.
But I also think calling out a player who in his eyes (and others if the stories are meant to be believed) just isn't pulling his weight as it can divide the squad and in a way will devalue him should we want to get rid.
At what point does this become bullying? I can't believe his comments last night. Shaw was the last player to be deserving of criticism.
I love Jose, but it descended into that a long long time ago.
Its terrible man management, and so unnecessary.
Mourinho clearly does not have a clue about how to motivate young players. It's poor management from him.
He's gone.Jose for what ever reason just does not fancy him as a player. I had high hopes for him and am sure that he will do well where ever he goes
Jose supporter, but terrible man management skills displayed by the gaffer.
Sort it out, Jose.
Sort it out, Jose.
Bullying? Ffs some of you lot are sensitive souls.
He didn't say anything that was a personal attack, bog standard performance related comments. He needs to mature and work hard oh no the horror
Mourinho was always a cnut and has never man managed youngsters well but his treatment of Shaw is depleable even by his very low standards.
This is the same man who boasted about how much Pogba earns. He's trying to deflect attention away from yet another awful performance. He's spent big and knows he won't get top 4, so let's throw a player under the bus in the most brutal way possible to distract from a result that pretty much ensured our chances of top 4 are as slim as they've ever been.
This is the same man who boasted about how much Pogba earns. He's trying to deflect attention away from yet another awful performance. He's spent big and knows he won't get top 4, so let's throw a player under the bus in the most brutal way possible to distract from a result that pretty much ensured our chances of top 4 are as slim as they've ever been.
This shite has been spoken about for as long as I've watched football, but it's never actually made sense. How exactly does speaking about a player distract people from the performance? The media and people are hardly going to forget about the match, papers are still going to write about the match, Facebook meme pages are still going to upload their pictures of "letz all laugh at united xDDDD" etc.
Bullying...really?I disagree with Mou comments, I think he was probably getting defensive because media are going to call him out "He has said all this about Shaw, but look who wins the penalty for them at the end"
What ? How is suggesting that the player is as thick as two short planks not verbal harrassement. Seems to me that's what José has said here, the player is good but is too thick to use his talents. I'd sue the bugger if I was Shaw.
Journos bantering with each other on Twitter is cringeworthy.
Maybe Shaw tried his luck with Mourinho's daughter. That would explain everything.
No one is getting distracted from the result.. The "Theatre of Draws" and "Draw"chester United is running high on social forums.
I agree. Felt unecessary yesterday.
Maybe he really is
. But yeah I thought the comments after the game was a bit much.That is the very definition of a frivolous lawsuit. He didn't even call him an idiot, said he wasn't football intelligent.
I just wonder how people would react if Luke Shaw (or any other player) was coming out and criticising Mourinho to press in this manner.
Rather peculiar comments from Jose. Not needed either. Should just be relieved that we got a point.
People need to chill out.
I dont agree with what Jose said at all, its just not necessary and certainly cant help. If he isnt in his plans fair enough but theres no need to humilate the guy. Just a few days ago he apologised for his treatment of Schweinsteiger and now here we are again it seems.....
At the risk of sounding like an old guy, this wouldnt have happened in Sir Alexs day. Should be dealt with entirely in house.
If my boss was coming out and publicly criticising me and suggesting that I couldn't do my job I'd certainly be speaking to my HR department. Would you not?
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