Heard it on TV.
Mourinho: "Luke Shaw a long way behind" | Shaw: "I will fight to the last second"
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Which channel?
It was the standard post match interview here on Star Sports in India. I am sure someone will post a video link soon
Mourinho wanted Shaw at Chelsea but he signed for United. Maybe Chelsea backed off after the huge transfer fee and wages asked by Shaw. Mourinho said about the huge transfer and wages issue after Shaw moved to United, seems the thing which Mourinho never forgot.
Liked what he said. United can't wait.
What is that supposed to mean?
That Shaw reacted towards his criticism.
No he was talking about shaw reacting to his comments from the side line...saying if he would have put him at right back he wouldn't have played very well as jose was telling him what to do. Think it's pretty harsh to criticize him for something that didn't even happen!
Not sure, I did not understand it exactly myself. My guess is that he was talking about instructions he was giving Shaw on the sideline. He made some comment about how Shaw would have fared if he was on the opposite team but I did not catch it completely.
Mourinho now coming out and saying he instructed Shaw what to do tonight from the sideline. Says he has to learn to think for himself, bad form from Jose imo.
I thought he did well today? Dare I say we looked slightly better when he came on? I really hope Jose plays him in the next game. Just give him a chance to have a run of games. We're not doing well anyway so it can't hurt to have him start.
When you're young you can always use lots of instructions. I'm surprised at Jose's comments because the kid did well tonight.
Maybe he doesn't like him?
Bizarre comments to be honest. I'm not a fan of that nonsense at all.
If Shaw did his own thing, he'd only complain that Shaw wasn't listening to him.
Remember a few months ago when Mourinho was telling Martial to burst forward on runs with the ball from the sidelines? Was happy then.
I saw the video on the other thread. It seems like this. Shaw needs football brain to go with his talent (technical, physical...). If he was on the other wing/ side of the pitch and away from our technical area, Mourinho couldn't help feeding instruction to Shaw. Shaw only played depended on constant instructions from Mourinho. Without that constant input, Shaw can't perform on his own.
When you're young you can always use lots of instructions. I'm surprised at Jose's comments because the kid did well tonight.
Maybe he doesn't like him?
The problem is as I said above, Mourinho did mention if Shaw played on the other side of the pitch, then he can't help/ give instructions to Shaw. So it's like Shaw didn't understand the initial instruction before coming on, or he forgot when being on the pitch, or can't read the game to apply the instruction into the situation; aka "only played reactive to instructions"
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"It was Luke Shaw's body with my brain. I made the decisions for him. But his contribution was good. I was thinking for him. I was making every decision for him. At this level, 21y old, he must understand the game."
some reports saying he actually said this.
its weird at best
some reports saying he actually said this.
its weird at best
The way he was half smiling about it made me think he's lost it, but perhaps he was still fuming about the performance.
Nothing new here. Mourinho has treated a number of players badly over the years and it has nothing to do with 'motivation'. It's about whether he likes somebody or not. He didn't like Mata at Chelsea, he didn't like Schweinsteiger and he doesn't like Shaw. He likes Ibra, he liked Terry etc. Seems a crass way to manage, but it doesn't seem to have held him back in the past.
Interesting comments but I'm not sure why Jose is making all of this public.
Does Jose always need to have an enemy in his squad?
Does Jose always need to have an enemy in his squad?
Jose & Shaw
I read reactive as just responding to the immediate action, as opposed to being proactive in managing and owning what's happening. This is likely down to my living and breathing corporate bullshit for 20 years though lol.
Yeah, it's making it public that's more the problem than anything he's said. It's also unnecessary to go into that much detail with the press. I can't see how it helps anything or even Jose himself.
Our manager needs to keep his cool and his counsel a bit more.
If Mou has tried everything else then last throw of the dice perhaps.
That's precisely what I think he's saying. However, no need to do this publicly, and the kid hasn't played for ages. It's reasonable to expect that he'd need more 'management' under the present circumstances.
I mean, especially the bit about Shaw not being able to 'self-direct' (is that a term? Non-native English speaker here), being reliant on instruction. That suggests immaturity as well as possibly serious confidence issues. Don't think making that public will help in the least.
I hope that's what it is, and not him deflecting away our awful result by making the lad the lead story instead.
Not sure that's a word myself
However, what he means is that Shaw was not being proactive and that he (Jose) had to prompt him by giving him instructions. His comments are also seemingly questioning Shaw's lack of a 'football brain'. I think Jose has some valid points here - but saying it in public is not the right thing to do in my opinion. It can damage Shaw's confidence (such as it is at the moment).
There was a moment near the end at 1-0 down where Shaw rolled the ball to Mkhitaryan inside our own half and just stood for a moment. I thought straight away, "we're chasing the game why has he not set off immediately on an overlap?". About a second later he reacts and starts to make a run and it occurred to me at the time that Jose, out of shot, had probably shouted at him to do so. So I do think there is some truth in Jose's comment.
It's been the case all season that Shaw has held back too much when he has featured. Although on one occasion tonight when he did try to drive forward he ran into trouble..
It's been the case all season that Shaw has held back too much when he has featured. Although on one occasion tonight when he did try to drive forward he ran into trouble..
The problem seems to be Shaw can't follow instruction even if it's private. Mourinho did say make another remark about "can't wait forever". Before players got on the pitch, surely they were fed with instructions. Sound like Shaw needed more instructions when already be on the pitch (!) by what Mourinho said that he couldn't help if Shaw had to play on the other wing/ side of the pitch / in another half
Did he actually say this then?
Over-analysing a one sentence quote from a non-natural English speaker is about as conducive as stressing over body language. It can mean whatever you want it to.
Uh yes, that was my understanding of what Jose said as well. I just don't think it helps to shame him in public about this. If Shaw can't trust his own memory of instructions given before he came on, can't trust his own impulses/thoughts about what to do on the pitch, is extra pressure from the media going to help?
Yes, saw it on Sky Sports News.
Saying that sort of thing about one of your young players isn't normal. Hardly helps the mood about the place. Strange man our manager.
Has being a bad week for Jose and the 1st time I've really doubted him since he took over as United manager.
His answer about Shaw to the press about him being "miles off the others" and then he has him in the squad 3 days later
His answer about Mkhi not playing because he played bad v WBA and how Mkhi looked like his confidence was shot again tonight.
His answer tonight about Shaw, whether there was truth in it or not, should not have been divulged to the media either.
I don't think his tough love approach is working.
His answer about Shaw to the press about him being "miles off the others" and then he has him in the squad 3 days later
His answer about Mkhi not playing because he played bad v WBA and how Mkhi looked like his confidence was shot again tonight.
His answer tonight about Shaw, whether there was truth in it or not, should not have been divulged to the media either.
I don't think his tough love approach is working.
Mourinho speaks perfect English.
Indeed. Like the hermeneutics used to determine whether Alexis Sanchez used an indefinite article or not. Captivating stuff.
This is exactly what I've been thinking as well. I remember all the signs were pointing towards him signing for Chelsea as well, my mate kept banging on about how he knew his cousin and he was a Chelsea fan or some tut like that.
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