Morgan Schneiderlin | BBC: Morgan Schneiderlin is currently having a medical at Manchester United.

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-------------Valdes
Coleman---Ramos----Smalling---Shaw
------Schneiderlin---Hererra
---------------Di Maria
Mata--------------------Memphis
------------Rooney

Or Swap Mata and Di Maria.
Ditto, if we partner Schneiderlin and Herrera at the base of midfield we would definitely need Mata's playmaking abilities more than Di Maria's drive in the centre plus Mata has considerably greater goal threat so we can use him as the furthest forward midfielder or a secon striker.
My doubts with Mata are how easily he allowed himself to be knocked off the ball and his lack of energy off the ball which Herrera, if playing in the same role, would bring. This is why I'm more inclined to have;
---Carrick---Schneiderlin--
----------Herrera----------
Di Maria--Rooney-- Mata

I think Depay should be given more time to settle in hence I would use him more as an impact player slowly bringing him by handing him starts in the COC and the CL rubbers (if we ever have any), I'm sure you get the point.
 
A lot will depend on the form of our wide players. If Di Maria and Depay are on top form for most of the season, then all we really need is a poacher who's capable of holding the ball up. Diego Costa, twat that he is, would be a perfect example.

That's why I think Benteke would work for us... (Runs and hides...)
 
Christ, no way. He's a donkey.
Averages 15+ goals a season, scored 20 last year. At 22, he also has significant resale value even if we decide to sell him after one season. I'd take the chance.

Good second option in the absence of Rooney, imo.
 
I expect this one to be completed until Wednesday at the latest.

On what evidence? I think we've a good chance of signing him, but looking at the reports right now, there's little to no reliable sources reporting anything. All I see is The Daily Mail, The Star, The Mirror and Metro recycling off each other. None of them are of any value regarding transfer news.
 
On what evidence? I think we've a good chance of signing him, but looking at the reports right now, there's little to no reliable sources reporting anything. All I see is The Daily Mail, The Star, The Mirror and Metro recycling off each other. None of them are of any value regarding transfer news.

Just a feeling. A bit of smoke and reports here and there, next step is a reliable tweet and there you go. There isnt an reliable enough evidence right now.

We are close to agreeing a fee with Southampton apparently. We are interested in him and i think that agreeing terms with him shouldnt be complicated. That could happen any time if it didnt already.

It is one thing to believe which rumours are true and which not. Some just believe it once Sky or BBC report something. This one could go fast next week, unless we chase Schweinsteiger instead.
 
Averages 15+ goals a season, scored 20 last year. At 22, he also has significant resale value even if we decide to sell him after one season. I'd take the chance.

Good second option in the absence of Rooney, imo.

His stats aren't terrible I suppose, but I still don't rate the guy and wouldn't want him near a United shirt. We urgently need some pace up top too, I'm sick of seeing what might as well be statues playing up front. RVP being a main culprit.
 
A lot will depend on the form of our wide players. If Di Maria and Depay are on top form for most of the season, then all we really need is a poacher who's capable of holding the ball up. Diego Costa, twat that he is, would be a perfect example.
If only RvP was two years younger... Would have been magic in this setup
 
Just a feeling. A bit of smoke and reports here and there, next step is a reliable tweet and there you go. There isnt an reliable enough evidence right now.

We are close to agreeing a fee with Southampton apparently. We are interested in him and i think that agreeing terms with him shouldnt be complicated. That could happen any time if it didnt already.

It is one thing to believe which rumours are true and which not. Some just believe it once Sky or BBC report something. This one could go fast next week, unless we chase Schweinsteiger instead.

This is not even reliable.
 
Ditto, if we partner Schneiderlin and Herrera at the base of midfield we would definitely need Mata's playmaking abilities more than Di Maria's drive in the centre plus Mata has considerably greater goal threat so we can use him as the furthest forward midfielder or a secon striker.
My doubts with Mata are how easily he allowed himself to be knocked off the ball and his lack of energy off the ball which Herrera, if playing in the same role, would bring. This is why I'm more inclined to have;
---Carrick---Schneiderlin--
----------Herrera----------
Di Maria--Rooney-- Mata

I think Depay should be given more time to settle in hence I would use him more as an impact player slowly bringing him by handing him starts in the COC and the CL rubbers (if we ever have any), I'm sure you get the point.

I think Depay-Di Maria tandem will be used a lot in big games and tough away games where LvG might prefer a counter attacking setup. At home, he might prefer Mata in the middle due to his ability to score and create when teams park the bus.
 
If we get Schneiderlin, then Van Gaal must be looking to go with a 4231/4213 next season, which would make sense as he made it clear he wants a holding midifelder in the Summer. By doing this, it would allow the four attacking players more freedom to go and express themselves, whilst we'd have two defensive minded players behind them to cover.

I guess its similar to how Southampton played last season, where they had Wanyama and Schneiderlin screening the defence, which is why it comes as no surprise that Southampton boasted such a great defensive record.

I think if for example we have Carrick and Schneiderlin in front of the back four, it'd even allow Van Gaal to play Mata as CAM. It would also give more freedom for someone like Di Maria to run riot.

If we get Schneiderlin and play a 4213, I'd be very happy to see a front six of:

Schneiderlin - Carrick
Mata
Di Maria - Rooney - Depay
 
If we get Schneiderlin, then Van Gaal must be looking to go with a 4231/4213 next season, which would make sense as he made it clear he wants a holding midifelder in the Summer.

I think it's far more likely he's just looking for someone to eventually replace Carrick, and doesn't want potential injuries to Carrick to hurt us like they did last season. I expect he'll stick with a 433 featuring either Carrick or Schneiderlin. He's unlikely to drop Herrera after such a superb second half of the season.

EDIT: If we do get him, that is.
 
Sky reported today that the negotiations for Schneiderlin are still ongoing. I'd expect a fee to be agreed in the next couple of days.

If L'Equipe are correct, personal terms with Schneiderlin have already been agreed and all that's left is the fee.
 
I think it's far more likely he's just looking for someone to eventually replace Carrick, and doesn't want potential injuries to Carrick to hurt us like they did last season. I expect he'll stick with a 433 featuring either Carrick or Schneiderlin. He's unlikely to drop Herrera after such a superb second half of the season.

EDIT: If we do get him, that is.

Schneiderlin will probably play in place of Fellaini a lot of the time, freeing Herrera up a bit
 
I just watched a good YouTube compilation of Schneiderlin's best bits from last season and he looks every bit a number 8 to me. Can't help but think he'd be a bit of a waste as the holding player. Thoughts?
 
Schneiderlin will probably play in place of Fellaini a lot of the time, freeing Herrera up a bit

I agree, I think it will be the same set up as last season but with Schneiderlin as the #8 and Herrera as the more advanced attacking CM.
 
Schneiderlin will probably play in place of Fellaini a lot of the time, freeing Herrera up a bit

No one really plays in Fellaini's place. It's a tailor-made role. If we drop Fellaini and play someone else, they'll almost certainly be doing something very different.
 
I just watched a good YouTube compilation of Schneiderlin's best bits from last season and he looks every bit a number 8 to me. Can't help but think he'd be a bit of a waste as the holding player. Thoughts?

I have read Matic was a similar styled #8 for benefica. He transitioned effortlessly to a DM role. It maybe easier than we think for Morgan to be a DM too.

PS - this is my first post since promotion and it feels great to post here :)
 
I have read Matic was a similar styled #8 for benefica. He transitioned effortlessly to a DM role. It maybe easier than we think for Morgan to be a DM too.

PS - this is my first post since promotion and it feels great to post here :)

I feel privileged that your first post was in response to me. Welcome!
 
I have read Matic was a similar styled #8 for benefica. He transitioned effortlessly to a DM role. It maybe easier than we think for Morgan to be a DM too.

PS - this is my first post since promotion and it feels great to post here :)

Welcome. Hopefully it looks like we're getting some good news on the Schneiderlin front and I'd agree in that he could play number 6 without too much trouble, or indeed number 8 when Carrick is playing. Throw Herrera and hopefully Schweinsteiger into the mix and they are some terrific options.
 
I just watched a good YouTube compilation of Schneiderlin's best bits from last season and he looks every bit a number 8 to me. Can't help but think he'd be a bit of a waste as the holding player. Thoughts?

Whenever I've seen Southampton last season, Schneiderlin and Wanyama seem to operate as a double pivot and rotate the defensive and box to box positions, as and when needed. Schneiderlin looks to have the skillset to play both, and I wouldn't think he'd be wasted in either. I imagine he could play a #8 role in games where Carrick or Blind play as the #6, or he himself could be the #6 behind two of Herrera, Fellaini, Mata etc. I think it will be of a huge benefit to us to have a player who can play both positions adeptly.
 
Welcome. Hopefully it looks like we're getting some good news on the Schneiderlin front and I'd agree in that he could play number 6 without too much trouble, or indeed number 8 when Carrick is playing. Throw Herrera and hopefully Schweinsteiger into the mix and they are some terrific options.

He strikes me as having a terrific appetite for pressing the opposition, he likes to make forward dribbles with the ball when he sees a gap and he's actually quite a tidy finisher too. #8 material in my opinion. That said, he has qualities suited to the holding role too - has a very uncomplicated style when it comes to recycling possession and getting the team moving forward quickly, ala Carrick.
 
Whenever I've seen Southampton last season, Schneiderlin and Wanyama seem to operate as a double pivot and rotate the defensive and box to box positions, as and when needed. Schneiderlin looks to have the skillset to play both, and I wouldn't think he'd be wasted in either. I imagine he could play a #8 role in games where Carrick or Blind play as the #6, or he himself could be the #6 behind two of Herrera, Fellaini, Mata etc. I think it will be of a huge benefit to us to have a player who can play both positions adeptly.

Agree with what you've said - he'll be coming in as Carrick's eventual successor, but actually looks more adaptable.

As an aside, I see he's under six foot - funny, because whenever I've seen him play, he's always looked towering to me.
 
He strikes me as having a terrific appetite for pressing the opposition, he likes to make forward dribbles with the ball when he sees a gap and he's actually quite a tidy finisher too. #8 material in my opinion. That said, he has qualities suited to the holding role too - has a very uncomplicated style when it comes to recycling possession and getting the team moving forward quickly, ala Carrick.

I agree, a bright, intelligent player. I was at the game against them at Old Trafford last season and was very impressed. I hope we can get it over the line and if we can get one more quality midfielder in, we have the type of options and quality we haven't had in there for years. That should hopefully take some pressure off the defence and keeper as well.
 
Arsenal fan. Can't be real... Surely.

Dear Morgan Schneiderlin: Get bent.
Dear M. Schneiderlin—
Apparently, you just don't get it. French defensive midfielders are *supposed* to come to Arsenal. Don't you want to be Vieira's heir? We were willing to overlook the, uh, *superficial* differences between the two of you because you are, after all, French as well as from Southampton. We were willing to compromise. You give a little, you get a little. But no. instead of making this relationship work, it appears you've jilted us for a "better" offer from Manchester United. Manchester United? They of the three managers in two seasons? A negative transfer balance over the last five years of close £300m? Morgan, they spent £171m on transfers just last summer and could barely manage to finish fourth—in a season without Champions League. Speaking of seasons without Champions League...

...you do know that Man Utd have to play a two-leg qualifier, right? You might have to trudge your way through two matches against the likes of Fenerbahçe or CSKA Moscow, who might not quite intimidate in their own right, but to call the travel. accomodations, and pitch a bit rough is too kind by half. But hey, with all that money Man Utd are throwing at you, maybe you can pretend not to notice.

From what I hear, the Glazers have arranged a package deal that includes a £25m transfer fee and £150k weekly wage. Not bad. Not bad at all. You've done well for yourself, Morgan, but I hope you don't mind my saying that you're not worth it. No disrespect. You're a fine footballer, but £150k per week? Come on. If Arsenal were to match that, you'd be out-earning Mesut Özil and Alexis Sánchez. You'd be the highest-paid player in the club. Just because Man Utd are willing to throw money at a problem, though, doesn't mean they've found a solution.

Speaking of problems, you face the prospect of shielding a defense that has to shield Victor Valdes or Anders Lindegaard once de Gea consummates his love affair with Real Madrid. Ponder that one. At some point or another, Man Utd do have to at least pretend to abide by FFP considerations, and it's only a matter of time before they have to sell someone. De Gea's contract runs through June 2016, so Man Utd can sell now, hope to resign him, or see him leave for free next summer. He might just be their most-saleable asset, though, as others are too old and expensive to be moved easily.

Look at things from de Gea's point of view: he single-handedly kept Man Utd competitive, at times literally. Is he willing to do that in a season that is (a) once again bereft of Champions League play or (b) congested by Champions League play? The first option is hardly ideal even if it allows Man Utd to focus on the Prem; the second is less than ideal because it suggests that Man Utd might fade in the Prem (and risk missing out on Champions League play next season). Having fought so valiantly only to face frustration, the temptation of greener grass and softer challenges at the Bernabéu sound well-high impossible to resist. At the other end of the pitch, enjoy watching Rooney and van Persie limp around. Falcao—for whatever he was worth—is gone. If Di María can't find ways to bounce the ball off of Fellaini's massive head into the net more often, well, it could be a very frustrating season.

As it stands, that's what you're signing up for. Had you come to Arsenal, you would have found a squad brimming with chemistry and ambition, just a player or two away from a legitimate title-tilt. Players like Ramsey, Wilshere, Oxlade-Chamberlain—oh. Now I see. You come to Arsenal, and you're going to have to fight like a madman to earn time on the pitch ahead of those guys. We're looking for a rugged, tenacious defending type to play alongside those more-forward thinking, box-to-box types, and you're not the rugged, tenacious defending type. I understand your concerns, just as I'm sure you understand ours.

I wonder what Wanyama is up to?
 
Agree with what you've said - he'll be coming in as Carrick's eventual successor, but actually looks more adaptable.

As an aside, I see he's under six foot - funny, because whenever I've seen him play, he's always looked towering to me.
He's only an inch short of being six foot though. He's quite bulky and can shrug off other players with ease. Similar to Vidal and Strootman in that regard.
 
I think it's far more likely he's just looking for someone to eventually replace Carrick, and doesn't want potential injuries to Carrick to hurt us like they did last season. I expect he'll stick with a 433 featuring either Carrick or Schneiderlin. He's unlikely to drop Herrera after such a superb second half of the season.

EDIT: If we do get him, that is.

I see what you mean, and I think he will eventually replace Carrick in the holding role, but for now, I see him playing as both, an 8 and 6 if he is to come to United. I just can't see Carrick not playing when fit. He's still a very important player for us, and it shown when he missed the last few games of the season.
 
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