Morgan Schneiderlin | BBC: Morgan Schneiderlin is currently having a medical at Manchester United.

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Could prove to be our most important signing this summer, if it happens. We've missed a player who has real stamina that can tackle and put a foot in, but also play well. He and Herrera doing the leg work in midfield could work beautifully with carrick or an AM pulling the strings.
 
Pogue Mahone said:
I love the idea that Spurs decided they didn't want him. Like some short, fat, ugly bloke being given the cold shoulder by a stunning blonde and muttering under his breath "I didn't fancy her anyway"
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:lol: It's always the way. Like they've decided mason was much better and there's no point pursuing him
 
I believe he'll be the most effective signing of this season (if it happens)
 
Pogue Mahone said:
I love the idea that Spurs decided they didn't want him. Like some short, fat, ugly bloke being given the cold shoulder by a stunning blonde and muttering under his breath "I didn't fancy her anyway"
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It reeks of Andy Cole's international retirement.
 
He'd have to be mad to go to Spurs. They're graveyard for decent footballers.
 
Mojo_ said:
Sorry, was going off Paddy Power yesterday on Talk Sport on the Adrian Durham Show. No worries I am already tying the rope. So long fellas.
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To be fair to you, they were talking as though it was a done deal to Arsenal. I was listening to it driving home from work and was swearing under my breath that we'd missed out on him.
 
Garethw said:
To be fair to you, they were talking as though it was a done deal to Arsenal. I was listening to it driving home from work and was swearing under my breath that we'd missed out on him.
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:lol: Me too! I got the same impression and my first muppet fix since was when I logged on here this morning and it all seemingly changed. For the better of course.
 
Sarni said:
He'd have to be mad to go to Spurs. They're graveyard for decent footballers.
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somewhere in darkest London GlastonSpurs is getting that feeling that somebody on the internet needs to be put right about Spurs' greatness...
 
charleysurf said:
somewhere in darkest London GlastonSpurs is getting that feeling that somebody on the internet needs to be put right about Spurs' greatness...
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:lol: It's true though. The likes of Eriksen and Lloris who are too good for them at the minute have no chance to go and play for better English teams because Levy wouldn't let them go so unless Real Madrid decide again that they want one of theirs they're stuck at a non-CL club who pack themselves with average signings. Oh, pardon, sign a midfielder United should have been in for, amazing Brazil international who's leaving for Guangzhou something after 3 years :lol:
 
Would be delighted if we managed to bring him in. I wonder if he would be the starter or play 2nd fiddle to Carrick (probably the latter)
 
C'est Moi Cantona said:
Don't get me wrong I like him he'll do ok probably, but he's an understudy to Carrick for me, not an improvement, if Carrick gets injured then we'll have a better stand in than Blind which of course we need, but for me even if it'd only been for a year or two Schweinsteiger could have been a monster for us, but if he won't come then there's not a lot we could do, so we did the right in going for the B choice if it is all true.
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I'd expect Schweinsteiger to be the better player as of next season. But given his age and injury record, I think Schneiderlin is the better investment... we need our Carrick understudy / replacement to actually be fit to play, and in 3 years time I'm pretty sure schneiderlin will be the better player (how much this is due to his improvement and how much it's due to the German's decline remains to be seen).

To put it another way... Carrick was a similar age, and rated at a similar level when we signed him (solid signing, unspectacular etc), and he's not done bad.
 
Sir A1ex said:
I'd expect Schweinsteiger to be the better player as of next season. But given his age and injury record, I think Schneiderlin is the better investment... we need our Carrick understudy / replacement to actually be fit to play, and in 3 years time I'm pretty sure schneiderlin will be the better player (how much this is due to his improvement and how much it's due to the German's decline remains to be seen).

To put it another way... Carrick was a similar age, and rated at a similar level when we signed him (solid signing, unspectacular etc), and he's not done bad.
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I actually reckon Schneiderlin is regarded a bit higher than Carrick was back then. He makes perfect sense as a signing, good age, good experience, exactly the sort of player United need.
 
Apparently James Duckers Times article claims we are still after Schweinsteiger and it is unclear if Schneiderlin is still just the alternative.
 
JoaquinJoaquin said:
Would be delighted if we managed to bring him in. I wonder if he would be the starter or play 2nd fiddle to Carrick (probably the latter)
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I was speaking about this yesterday and arguing I dont think he'll replace a fit carrick on the teamsheet. I think (for now at least) he would play with Carrick in a 3 with hopefully Herrera at the point. Course if Carrick is injured he can fall back with probably a view of holding down that spot permanently in the coming seasons.
 
Our record with Frenchmen is patchy in the extreme. They're either legendary, a bit shit, completely mad or Louis Saha
 
Sarni said:
I actually reckon Schneiderlin is regarded a bit higher than Carrick was back then. He makes perfect sense as a signing, good age, good experience, exactly the sort of player United need.
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Maybe he is... Carrick was certainly very hyped as a youngster, and had done enough (1st division Team of the Year) to get the move to Spurs. And he obviously impressed at Spurs enough to get his move to United. It's not like he'd gone off the boil, but he certainly wasn't a glamour signing. Mind you, neither is Schneiderlin, though he is more established with France than Carrick was with England.

Totally agree with the general sentiment / second half though. This is currently the signing I want us to get wrapped up most.
 
Sarni said:
I actually reckon Schneiderlin is regarded a bit higher than Carrick was back then. He makes perfect sense as a signing, good age, good experience, exactly the sort of player United need.
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This is definitely true. If you go back to the thread where Carrick signs for us back in 2006 about 70% of posts were bemoaning the signing, especially as it turned out to be our only key signing of the summer. Think that will be a big contrast to the Schneiderlin thread if he does join us
 
LawCharltonBest said:
Apparently James Duckers Times article claims we are still after Schweinsteiger and it is unclear if Schneiderlin is still just the alternative.
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The article also said we were in pole position for Schneiderlin as well..
 
DanNistelrooy said:
This is definitely true. If you go back to the thread where Carrick signs for us back in 2006 about 70% of posts were bemoaning the signing, especially as it turned out to be our only key signing of the summer. Think that will be a big contrast to the Schneiderlin thread if he does join us
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The fee was discussed so much that I still remember it to the decimal - £13m rising to £18.6m. Fair to assume we've ended up paying the full price and we definitely don't regret it. He's cost us less than £2m in fee per year, terrific investment.
 
Pogue Mahone said:
In terms of non-English player we've probably had a better strike rate than any other nationality (bar randomers like Park, Hernandez or Schmeicel)
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Isn't our record with Dutch players pretty excellent? Stam, van Nistelrooy and van der Sar were all utterly brilliant bordering on legendary status, Blind has been good and well we've made a profit on Buttner. :lol: Partially offset by Cruyff.
 
The fee, on paper, is irrelevant after 5 or so years, as they are listed as a fully depreciated asset on the books after that I think...so in effect, whatever you sell them for after the initial period, is classed as pure profit I think...

Or I might have just made that up...
 
Big Andy said:
The fee, on paper, is irrelevant after 5 or so years, as they are listed as a fully depreciated asset on the books after that I think...so in effect, whatever you sell them for after the initial period, is classed as pure profit I think...

Or I might have just made that up...
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you'll have to list the asset according to its Fair Value in the market after a while iirc.
 
Big Andy said:
The fee, on paper, is irrelevant after 5 or so years, as they are listed as a fully depreciated asset on the books after that I think...so in effect, whatever you sell them for after the initial period, is classed as pure profit I think...

Or I might have just made that up...
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In accounting terms that's right - if it's a five year contract they sign with.
 
Sarni said:
Isn't our record with Dutch players pretty excellent? Stam, van Nistelrooy and van der Sar were all utterly brilliant bordering on legendary status, Blind has been good and well we've made a profit on Buttner. :lol: Partially offset by Cruyff.
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RvP as well, regardless of what he is now he effectively won us the league.
 
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