Morgan Schneiderlin | BBC: Morgan Schneiderlin is currently having a medical at Manchester United.

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I think he is that player that would take us to the next level. He would allow us to play our better players in their better positions, (ADM in CM), similar to:


Valdés
RB Smalling Jones (/CB) Shaw
Herrera Schneiderlin Di Maria
Nani Rooney Depay

Would love to see that, but with Mata over Nani
 
Mata for Nani and you have a proper team!
Would love to see that, but with Mata over Nani

I'd prefer Mata to play Herrera's position if anything, if you don't rate Nani, we get linked with plenty of inside forwards these days, I wouldn't even mind someone like Sterling to play Nani's position.

EDIT: Reason being about Mata is because of how view that formation I posted,

Midfield/Support
Attack/ Direct

Mata is much more of a support player than a direct player running past defenders in the final third and I don't think he's quick enough to play that role (Inside Forward)
 
Isle of White mate.

Live camera footage from the Isle of White:

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The problem here is that you would be nullifying Herrera's impact if you play him that deep as he lacks the passing range or defensive nous to affect games there. If we play him as the furthest forward midfielder in the same team with Schneiderlin and Gundogun/Carrick we will get more from him as a creative force and we will also be able to choke teams since Herrera can do a job pressing the opposing deep lying playmaker. Considering the goals he's scored this season I think he has the ability to hit double figures if he plays in an advanced position.

The problem this year is that we struggled with creativity since we had a dysfunctional side and this makes it impossible to accurately point to the source of our problems. Is it that we have shit strikers or that our strikers were starved of service and subsequently lost confidence? Schneiderlin is not the magical pill to the issues that dogged our side but signing him would be a step in the right direction and our rebuilding job will not be accomplished by mega bids for tear away wingers and pint sized Spanish pass masters alone, we need to make smart moves in the market and his capture, imo, is one such move.

We scored 62 goals in the league. Our attack doesn't need a slight improvement. It needs a massive one. I think a midfield of Herrera-Gundogan/Carrick-Schneiderlin is a lovely balanced one for big games and the CL (if Gundogan is physically up to it), but for the Prem, I just want to blow teams away with creative talent. And we have that talent in Mata and Di Maria. Van Gaal just chose to shackle it.

I have doubts that Depay-Rooney-RWF will score enough goals for us to win the league unless we get someone like Bale, Reus or Griezmann in as the RWF. Without that scorer, I think we need Mata and Di Maria out there creating chances for us to be at our best.
 
We scored 62 goals in the league. Our attack doesn't need a slight improvement. It needs a massive one. I think a midfield of Herrera-Gundogan/Carrick-Schneiderlin is a lovely balanced one for big games and the CL (if Gundogan is physically up to it), but for the Prem, I just want to blow teams away with creative talent. And we have that talent in Mata and Di Maria. Van Gaal just chose to shackle it.

I have doubts that Depay-Rooney-RWF will score enough goals for us to win the league unless we get someone like Bale, Reus or Griezmann in as the RWF. Without that scorer, I think we need Mata and Di Maria out there creating chances for us to be at our best.

You're overlooking the fact that the players took months before they finally performed the basis of van Gaal's methods. He was hampered with injuries and teaching them a completely different style of football which is very high-risk high-reward. He shackled the team mostly troughout the season because he needed to finish in the top 4, he couldn't go out guns blazing as he learned very quickly. He instructed to kill the game when we took the lead alot of times which cost us goals aswell.

At the end of the season we saw that the players finally could keep possesion and create chances how van Gaal wants them to. With several upgrades over the pitch it might not even be neccesary to buy another worldclass RWF, as we'd have more ways than Blind-Young-Fellaini and Valencia-Mata-Herrera. We've not seen the best football yet.

I very much doubt Di Maria will leave the club, or that he will feature in midfield much. Young played there over him in the last match of the season so that he could play as winger, which is what I think will be his place. Memphis-Rooney-Di Maria with a better midfield who will also contribute with goals is certainly good enough on paper for a title challenge.
 
From the rocks, I'm fairly sure that's somewhere in the Seychelles. Not a bad old life as a footballer is it!

I carved my initials on that very rock when I visited the Seychelles.

Recognized it immediately. Hasn't changed a bit. Good old granite. Or was it mica schist?
 
I think he is that player that would take us to the next level. He would allow us to play our better players in their better positions, (ADM in CM), similar to:


Valdés
RB Smalling Jones (/CB) Shaw
Herrera Schneiderlin Di Maria
Nani Rooney Depay
Bizarre to have Nani in the line up. He'll never be good enough. I'd have Reus :).... in Nani's place and have Otamendi in for Jones and that's a nice line up
 
I carved my initials on that very rock when I visited the Seychelles.

Recognized it immediately. Hasn't changed a bit. Good old granite. Or was it mica schist?

Bit of both no?

Beautiful place. I worked there for 4 years. Not quite the same as being their on holidays but I enjoyed it anyway.

I've been there too. I carved the letters "NKER" into it.

:lol:
 
Bizarre to have Nani in the line up. He'll never be good enough. I'd have Reus :).... in Nani's place and have Otamendi in for Jones and that's a nice line up

I think Nani is good enough. I was thinking yesterday when reading the Nani thread about his 2010 and 2011 form, he was fantastic and exactly what we're missing. Its okay having everything structured keeping the ball well and looking to create openings, but you need a spark. Think Messi, Robben for example. Someone who can do something brilliant or unpredictable and I think he could be that player. I'd say more but won't as this isn't the Nani thread.

As for Schneiderlin I think he'd be a fantastic signing, still remember him in League One, amazing how much he's progressed from what seemed a very good player, with Lambert and Lallana as stars to the better player. We need someone who's strong defensively and quick aswell as being good on the ball. Too many times in the past few years, even under Fergie we were light in midfield and easily ran through.
 
Yes to scheiderlin.
Yes to Di Maria in a midfield 3.
No to Nani as a starter. Squad, sure. But Mata has to start, if another wing doesn't (Bale/Sterling).

If we get Gundogan too, then id reconsider Mata.
 
Nani from 2011 would be 5 years ago next season, his last 2/3 years here should be enough to say goodbye and move on. That's the mentality that allowed Anderson and Cleverley to pollute our midfield for too long
 
Nani from 2011 would be 5 years ago next season, his last 2/3 years here should be enough to say goodbye and move on. That's the mentality that allowed Anderson and Cleverley to pollute our midfield for too long

Difference is Cleverly and Anderson got games, plenty of runs and weren't good enough. Nani barely got a look in from the back end of 2011 til around the Madrid game as far as I remember, he then had a little run until getting injured against Chelsea and was looking good until then. He was a regular last season and from highlights I've seen and read on here, yes in an inferrior league but he's a confidence player who needs a run so if he got it I wouldn't be surprised if he returned to his former form.

I just don't think its worth taking £7-£8 million for him, he's only 28 its not like his age will have made him decline.
 
Because stats like those are basically pointless. Why this obsession with meaningless stats?
That was my idea, because it was quoted couple of times in the thread that his stats when it comes to tacking and interceptions are great.
 
I am right in saying that we had that one day of being linked with him, and there's been nothing since right?

I'm still clutching to the the fact he wore a red Adidas hat alongside a philosophical tweet.
 
I am right in saying that we had that one day of being linked with him, and there's been nothing since right?

I'm still clutching to the the fact he wore a red Adidas hat alongside a philosophical tweet.
Could that red Adidas hat be an Arsenal hint?
 
He's not a Carrick clone, just like Carrick wasn't a Keane clone.

He'd still be bloody brilliant. My muppet choices remain Verratti, Vidal or Pogba, but they also remain completely unrealistic.
 
He's not a Carrick clone, just like Carrick wasn't a Keane clone.
He'd still be bloody brilliant. My muppet choices remain Verratti, Vidal or Pogba, but they also remain completely unrealistic.

Verratti was my #1 pick.

Schneiderlin + Verratti would be amazing for us ....midfield sorted for years but I think the chances of landing Verratti are miniscule to say the least. I think we will most likely end up with something like schneiderlin and gundogan (which if they play to their potential would be equally as good)
 
Arsenals Twitter just tweets that they've updated their media watch section regarding wanyama and schniedelin.
 
Meh. He just reckons we need him the most, which is more of an opinion than the fact that he knows something.
No where in that article does it state that he knows something, he's just saying what he thinks will happen with Schneiderlin's situation.
 
Schniedelin being our backup option to schweinstiger makes absolutely no sense. The former seems nothing like the latter.
 
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