The precedent post doesn't give you an idea?
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The precedent post doesn't give you an idea?
I have seen him many times, seeing as I watch Saints at Saint Marys quite often... You have waded into an ongoing discussion and clearly have not bothered to find out what all the sides to the discussion are.
Yup that's a very good response.
That's much more the sort of response I can buy into.
We're hopefully interested in Schneiderlin who is someone as close to Carrick as possible. His role would be to shield the defence, and generally pick up the ball from one of the defenders, and make a simple pass to the more creative players.
Football is a lot more simple than being discussed by some posters.
Football is a lot more simple than being discussed by some posters.
His strength is that he is an all rounder, like Strootman he will lead your pressing, organize your defense from midfield but he can also support your creative players because he has enough touch and passing abilities to partake in intricate plays. Until now he demonstrated his tactical nous and his clean technique, he can control-pass in tight spaces and quickly.
Just another "yesterday's chip paper" rumour? We are linked with several players everyday somewhere in the media. You really expect the club to deny / confirm every one?
Spot on Sults. You'd swear some of them are auditioning to be the next statto. Why write essays when a few lines will do?
News flash; people wade into discussions on forum boards
I responded to you initially because I think your line of reasoning is bizarre
Simple is the only bit I disagree with. Blind can play the simple passes just fine. We need Carrick's vision and ability to play the difficult tight balls between the lines that he does so well. Expect we need it for the entire season - Not half of it.
No. Not really the point I was making. Just thinkingout load. Nevermind.
We can't replicate Carrick. We'll have to move on once he finishes his career. We need desperately need to fill his position when he's not available or get to a point where he'll have to retire, and I happen think Schneiderlin would do a good job.
On this seasons showing Blind has done the simple things well, but has not been disciplined enough as a defensive midfielder. He's more a utility player which every team needs.
Like with Mikel! This idea has legs...
Still my favourite bit of business ever. He is so shite and we got paid for him, brilliant.
Yeah we don't need to replace Carrick like-for-like. Like-for-like replacements rarely ever happens anyway.
I have no problem with people wading into discussions. I do think, though, they should first find out how the discussion has arisen if they want to make a worthwhile contribution. I have a problem with posts like yours, in particular, that just make baseless assumptions such as my not having seen Schneiderlin play. Just because it is a forum does not mean we can just say stuff without head nor tail.
Schneiderlin would be awesome but with a monster talent like Fosu-Mensah coming through the ranks and possibly being lined up as a future number 6 in the Viera mold here in about 3 years time then perhaps Van Gaal would prefer to wait and see if he can get a player like Schweinsteiger first who will be able to give 3 good years before perhaps calling it a day leaving a void for Fosu-Mensah to fill......Fosu-Mensah could very well still end up in defense but I like the look of him as a midfielder
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Thats the point. People need to understand that we will not find a similar player. Carrick was very different to Keane as well, so we had to adapt and it worked out well. Same with Schneiderlin in case he would replace Carrick.
Not sure if that's how he'd be thinking. Will he even be here in three years time to benefit from that?
Plus, surely if he's good (or promising) enough in a few years, he'll force his way through? Placing that much on a youngster's potential seems unnecessarily risky.
You can't possibly be serious. We aren't going to refrain from signing a 25 year old if we think he's right for our first team midfield because we've got a 17 year old talent coming through the ranks.
Thread titles changed, so nothing more than a rumour right now then?
Actually you're right.....that's crazy logic.....Schneiderlin is the perfect signing really...Hopefully he's already made up his mind to come here....He wold be such a Carrick type signing in that he can run the show for us very successfully in midfield for many years without all the ridiculous hype and wages that come with players like Pogba and Vidal etc
Why does everyone see a Carrick replacement in Schneiderlin? The reason we play Fellaini is his physical presence, which is non-existent in our midfield without him. That we hoof the ball to him is also a kind of plan because our overall game is too limited, LvG will try everything to change that and Schneiderlin will add the box-to-box qualities while beeing also more dynamic and better on the ball than Fellaini. Carrick replacement/deep-lying-playmaker will be another one alongside Schneiderlin and Herrera imo. But Schneiderlin gives us flexibility and can also replace Carrick as number 6, doesn't mean he is like Carrick, but he can play there and we can mix things up a bit, with his quality as 6 he could allow us to play Di Maria and Herrera in a 3-man-midfield alongside him.
It will be a very good signing if we can get him, exactly what we need, the carrick-type midfielder will be another one.
It will be a very good signing if we can get him, exactly what we need, the carrick-type midfielder will be another one.
People really want a Carrick replacement, so they're seeing Carrick in everyone, I guess.
I think he is that player that would take us to the next level. He would allow us to play our better players in their better positions, (ADM in CM), similar to:
Valdés
RB Smalling Jones (/CB) Shaw
Herrera Schneiderlin Di Maria
Nani Rooney Depay
Valdés
RB Smalling Jones (/CB) Shaw
Herrera Schneiderlin Di Maria
Nani Rooney Depay
Are we negotiating the deal with his Agent/Southampton or this was just a rumour like the Gundogan one which has since died down?
He'd replace Carrick in being our main midfielder, I don't think people see him as a fit for fit, but to do that, we'd need one of Schwein/ Martinez to keep the same style of player, but Carrick does lack pace/ physical presence for all his good points, I wouldn't want a like for like replacement personally, I'd like to see us change our style slightly
If we signed Schneiderlin, I think we'd still be lacking a main midfielder. Either a serious box-to-box, or a passer-dictator.
I think we'd still need someone to take us to that next level. Either somebody who's very good at everything, and can really carry he ball. Or somebody who's not going to break forward, but is comfortable with the ball under pressure, can turn with it and pass consistently, and break the midfield lines that way.
Schneiderlin's more of a support cast, in my opinion. He'd be a good start to building a top midfield.
Would you have considered Carrick as Keane's replacement or Keane as Ince replacement or Ince as Robson replacement? Robson was the perfect mix of power, leadership and strength, Ince was a powerful athlete who used to make midfielders running scared away from him, Keane compensated to the lack of nonhuman strength Ince had, with more technique and by messing with the opponents brains (Keane is a psycho sort of thing), Carrick compensated to this lack of strength with world class positioning
What linked these 4 players is their ability to read the game and be effective in winning the ball. Schneiderlin is that sort of player
Hes not a like for like, but I don't think we will get one. We'll get two players who will divide his role between them I reckon (whilst adding parts of what he misses).
Watching schneiderlin bossing yaya toure in that last compilation video has made him my automatic number 1,looks to be the complete Package and would seriously elevate us! I'd love to see gundogan and Herrera alongside him
Wearing Adidas cap...Surely a hint
Red too
Tough competition but we should be able to come out on top!Its either Fgura FC, Viking or us
Yes
that is my favorite bit especially when he falls on his ass all dizzy and confused.
Mata for Nani and you have a proper team!
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