Agree with this. He wasn't bad at all but definitely an exegeration to call him a great passer as some have said.
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I'd definitely take him over Gündogan and from the players available, he is a dream signing in my eyes.
How old are you?
This should probably have his own thread.
Lets not make Keane out to be a brute with no eye for the pass.
He was not all tackling. It was tackle and pass. He was no Scholes in the passing stakes...but he was pretty darn useful...and he scored a fair number of goals too.
He was not all tackling. It was tackle and pass. He was no Scholes in the passing stakes...but he was pretty darn useful...and he scored a fair number of goals too.
Because either you are too young to remember or have forgotten how good he was.
Nope, it is neither. I saw him; I remember. My view, which is not a fact, is his passing was good, not great.
Similarly, whatever you remember and think is not a fact. Just your view.
Keane like Robson is largely underrated as a passing midfielder, probably because they had other eye-catching attributes.
Who better to ask than someone who played with them all and depended on them for service? Why would you discount Rooney's opinion? FWIW I don't fully agree. I think Scholes and Carrick were/are better passers.
However Keane was still an excellent passer. One of the best around. Very positive, great choice and weight of pass. He was the ultimate facilitator of the players around him which in essence is exactly what passing is all about. Rather than hit Pirlo style cross field balls that looks great he tended to hit quick, crisp positive passes that rarely missed their target.
That style of passing is what all great attacking side are all about. Get the ball as quickly as possible to the right players in the right area of the pitch. Carrick does exactly the same. For the most part Carrick and Keane are extremely similar in how they pass the ball. Calm, accurate, incisive and positive.
Let's rename this thread to Morgan Keane.. or Roy Schneiderlin?
Yup. There's a reason why he could still a first choice midfielder for us later into his career with us even though his mobility is gone and he got a bad hip
Sorry to break the news to you, but Robbo is definitely NOT underrated as a footballer. He was sensational and was regarded as such.
Isn't peterstorey an Arsenal supporter?
When he isn't wumming, he's quite knowledgeable.
Yes. Like Bucky said, from the crop available, he looks a good bet. Proven in the league and been quite consistent. Gundogan and Strootman we all are worried about their injury record. Pogba, Verrati look very much out of our reach unless Woody conjures something crazy from his hat. With Vidal, I think that ship has sailed, unless if he wins the CL this season with Juventus and decides he needs a change!
Sign if we fail to sign Verratti, concerns about his passing are nothing short of ridiculous. As someone that's seen a fair few of his games for southampton I can confirm he's got the range, engine, intelligence to be our carrick replacement. However he doesn't have that extra 20% that verratti has who pretty much will do it, on any level, on any day and against any opposition.
Fine. But a man who dismisses Robbo's greatness is either ignorant or wumming.
I'd be extremely happy if we sign this guy over other fancy names. A technical player with vision, energy and tenacity to match. He's very much remind me of Schweni.
thats a rarity nowadays.
Did I read somewhere that we bid for him last Summer, or am I having a funny 5 minutes?
Ekeke do you remember who Keane was playing besides?
Butt, Scholes, Veron, Djemba Djemba, Kleberson during my time watching
Why?
If he's the equal of Carrick and Scholes with his passing then he'll have opened up many defences over a career
I would like to see Schneiderlin signed to play alongside Carrick or a second signing for central midfield. Someone like Gundogun or Verrati. That would give our team more balance than sticking Herrera deep where he is ineffective.
Then you have 4 attacking positions.
Rooney
di Maria
Depay
Mata / Herrera
Those players would have a lot more freedom with a solid base behind us, plus the central midfielders mentioned are ver capable of joining in attacks where required.
Then you have 4 attacking positions.
Rooney
di Maria
Depay
Mata / Herrera
Those players would have a lot more freedom with a solid base behind us, plus the central midfielders mentioned are ver capable of joining in attacks where required.
Honestly feel he's our most important transfer target. We are witnessing the difference without Carrick and only Schneiderlin can offer the same balance.
If the Clyne rumours are true, then I highly doubt we'll be going for Schneiderlin as well.
Possibly though I'm not sure the two are connected. Fact is, Southampton have to sell Clyne this summer if he turns down a new deal, as seems likely. They're not in a position to turn down £15-£18m for someone who can go for free next summer.
It might mean they don't need to sell Schneiderlin for financial reasons but the player might have something to say about that now. He wanted out to Spurs last summer, has got his head down and carried on. He might not be willing to back down again if a bid goes in.
Sad thing is I'm not sure he's a target at all. Van Gaal's recent comments after Carrick's injury about addressing the lack of CDM depth this window are encouraging but still we're not linked with him anywhere.
It's pretty sad, isn't it? Instead we go again for fancy name (Gundogan).
I can almost be sure that if Arsenal buy him this summer, Arsenal will be favorite for the league, next season.
Yep, especially when taking into account this summers likely transfer fees he'd be arguably the best signing we could make in midfield.
I think we need 2 midfielders this window, so I'm not opposed to the idea of Gundogan but I don't know who the other would be cause surely him alone isn't enough to strengthen that area for next season?
Yeh admittedly we have tightened up the leaks since van Gaal took over, but for him to be so heavily linked with Arsenal just like we were with Depay makes me pessimistic to say the least.
Seems like hes off to Arsenal right? He would improve them a lot in midfield add some much needed steel.
Don't know where to stuff him in their midfield tbh
Hmmm well before Coquelin rose to prominence this season, Schneiderlin could've come in for that DM slot you're right though its not quite as clear right now.
He and Coquelin can fight it out and they can have a plan B for big games where they play together and let Ozil wreak havoc on the counter, instead of just watching Mourinho or whoever the manager of the CL side they get in the knockouts cackle after beating them on the break.
--------Welbeck----
Sanchez-Ozil--Ramsey
-Coquelin-Schneiderlin--
would be a side that works hard, has pace on the counter, steel in midfield and wouldn't get tonked by Monaco. I think they'd be foolish not to buy Schneiderlin (as well as one big attacking signing, either a RW or Striker) or another solid DM.
One of the best midfielders in the league, would be a top signing for us to play alongside/eventually replace Carrick
Haven't really watched him or Southampton enough to comment.
Going by the comments, seems to be extremely highly rated & worth the 20 odd mil quid it will cost.
I always thought Wanyama was the DM at Soton and Schneiderlin was the box to box? But I'm reading alot of posters saying he could play the DM role? I guess, looking back at the Keane-Scholes partnership, a pure DM isn't really necessary if you get the balance of the 2 right.
Imagine a trio of Herrera----Schneiderlin----Gundogan in big matches?
Pipe dream, i know.
Going by the comments, seems to be extremely highly rated & worth the 20 odd mil quid it will cost.
I always thought Wanyama was the DM at Soton and Schneiderlin was the box to box? But I'm reading alot of posters saying he could play the DM role? I guess, looking back at the Keane-Scholes partnership, a pure DM isn't really necessary if you get the balance of the 2 right.
Imagine a trio of Herrera----Schneiderlin----Gundogan in big matches?
Pipe dream, i know.
He'll be away from Southampton in the summer no doubt about it.
I just dont see him at United- I havent seen him linked. Arsenal is more likely but something tells me Southampton will find a way to keep him.
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