Morgan Schneiderlin | BBC: Morgan Schneiderlin is currently having a medical at Manchester United.

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Would be a dream signing for us but I doubt this will happen. Also just 25 which means he can have a long career if he comes here. Hoping we sign a good strong combative midfielder soon
 
sun_tzu said:
Probably if we are talking about current ability
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Keane wasn't some pass master, which it seems some are making out to be. He had an extremely limited passing range, used to mainly play safe passes and the only really somewhat risky pass he'd play is the flat one through the lines into an attackers feet. Let's not make him sound like Scholes here.
 
RooneyLegend said:
Keane wasn't some pass master, which it seems some are making out to be. He had an extremely limited passing range, used to mainly play safe passes and the only really somewhat risky pass he'd play is the flat one through the lines into an attackers feet. Let's not make him sound like Scholes here.
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And let's not make out schneiderling is scholes-esque either
 
RooneyLegend said:
Keane wasn't some pass master, which it seems some are making out to be. He had an extremely limited passing range, used to mainly play safe passes and the only really somewhat risky pass he'd play is the flat one through the lines into an attackers feet. Let's not make him sound like Scholes here.
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He wasn't renowned for his passing ala Scholes but Keane was a fantastic passer of the ball, always with purpose, always tried to be positive and passed the ball quickly. A very underrated passer by a lot of people, including you by the sounds of.

On topic; I'd have Scheneiderlin here, decent player and younger than I always think he is.
 
I cannot think of a more suitable midfielder to add. He has everything we need and is the perfect age to make the step up.
 
SteveW said:
You're both wrong. I can only assume you are too young to have seen him play much. No excuse otherwise. Rooney said he was the best passer he's played with
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Keane perfected in not giving the ball away. He was a great passer...
 
Mainoldo said:
Keane perfected in not giving the ball away. He was a great passer...
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Did exactly what you want from a cm. Delivered quick, extremely accurate forward passes. Some of the comments in here are ridiculous
 
SteveW said:
Did exactly what you want from a cm. Delivered quick, extremely accurate forward passes. Some of the comments in here are ridiculous
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Keane was from the days when to play in centre midfield you couldn't be a "defensive midfielder" or "attacking midfielder" but had to be able to do both. Brian Robson was the same - loved a tackle, dominated the midfield and could get you on the front foot as well.

As much of a gobshite as his is now he was a great player, one of the best we've ever had here and one of the best in the history of the PL. If he were playing now he'd be worth a fortune.
 
SteveW said:
You're both wrong. I can only assume you are too young to have seen him play much. No excuse otherwise. Rooney said he was the best passer he's played with
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Well if Rooney sai it you are right, rather than use your basis ofa solution which is to say " youre wrong" im going with a slightly more advanced reply, show me any evidence of him being this amazing passer
 
Shame that we aren't even linked with him, he seems to be more linked with Arsenal.
 
That deal would not damage us. Actually we would be far from hurt... not even a scratch. Perhaps LVG from time to time could trust the French like Fergie did. It's not like it's Obertan or Bellion...

If we definitely aiming for someone from Southampton it should be him.
 
He is exactly the player Van Gaal was more of less describing today. We'd be foolish not to make a move in the summer.
 
Just be happy Brendan bought all the good Southampton players last year and left the ordinary ones for Koeman.
 
wouldn't mind a double swoop for schneiderlain and Clyne. Might aswell kills 2 birds with one stone.
 
Not sure what this has to do with Schneiderlin but.....

1. Keane was not a DM.
2. Keane had excellent passing ability.
 
sullydnl said:
Not sure what this has to do with Schneiderlin but.....

1. Keane was not a DM.
2. Keane had excellent passing ability.
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He was definitely a DM in the last phase of his career where we packed midfield to accomodate him. He just Mascherano'd midfield
 
sullydnl said:
Not sure what this has to do with Schneiderlin but.....

1. Keane was not a DM.
2. Keane had excellent passing ability.
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He was box-to-box, although had a spell as DM toward the end (which didn't work very well). Also, I think his passing was hugely underrated.
 
AngeloHenriquez said:
Did u actually read that article? Heres a quote..
Keane's speciality was his tireless box to box running, whilst Carrick is renowned more for his elegant passes, and therefore prefers the ball to do the work.
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Also, not attacking you specifically, but having watched Keane play for us I don't need to read an article to form an opinion.
 
Moriarty said:
Keane could play the DM role if needed and play it well.
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Maybe, though I think I remember SAF saying they tried him as a DM and it didn't really work?

Either way, even if he could play DM that doesn't actually make him one. He was pretty much the definition of a box-to-box player. I mean Herrera has played in that role too but I wouldn't describe him as a DM either.
 
sullydnl said:
Maybe, though I think I remember SAF saying they tried him as a DM and it didn't really work?

Either way, even if he could play DM that doesn't actually make him one. He was pretty much the definition of a box-to-box player. I mean Herrera has played in that role too but I wouldn't describe him as a DM either.
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Probably because he barely had any legs anymore and we had to play 5 in midfield to accomodate him at that point. It definitely wasnt worth it, but we did it so he could carry on playing a while.
 
Kag said:
He is exactly the player Van Gaal was more of less describing today. We'd be foolish not to make a move in the summer.
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What part of the interview was he discussing a potential new midfielder? Saw someone else mentioning it, I must have missed it.
 
Ekeke said:
Probably because he barely had any legs anymore and we had to play 5 in midfield to accomodate him at that point. It definitely wasnt worth it, but we did it so he could carry on playing a while.
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That's hardly the same as him actually being a DM, is it? It's more like what Liverpool tried to do with Gerrard, play him deep and set up so he doesn't get exposed.
 
sullydnl said:
That's hardly the same as him actually being a DM, is it? It's more like what Liverpool tried to do with Gerrard, play him deep and set up so he doesn't get exposed.
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Yes, but Keane could actually do a good job defensively. He had the positioning, responsibility, aggression and ball winning ability to play the role. But at that point he was so slow and limited that it wasnt worth it. Off the top of my head I dont remember us having brilliant players to pull off the system either. It was like Keane, Scholes and Djemba Djemba or Kleberson or something... So thats 1 quality CM, a crippled Keane sitting in front of the defence and Djemba Djemba pretending to be a footballer.

Gerrard is more like when we moved Scholes back. Someone who didnt have all the tools to play a DM role well
 
AngeloHenriquez said:
This is so mental.. His workrate and tackling are what made him.. He could paas but it was not one of his best traits by any means..
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A pretty obvious assessment and I'm baffled by the misty-eyed recollection of Keane being some kind of Pirloesque midfielder.

Was Keane a very good passer? Of course he was, but was just not in the same league as Scholes or Carrick. But he was well above average in his passing but where he excelled - no, make that legendary -- was his workrate, his tackling and his leadership.
 
Yes I remember Keane as a good passer, just like someone like Schneiderlin is a good passer... But neither are going to carve your defence open on a regular basis. They keep the ball and can find your dangermen and thats all they need to do
 
Ekeke said:
Yes, but Keane could actually do a good job defensively. He had the positioning, responsibility, aggression and ball winning ability to play the role. But at that point he was so slow and limited that it wasnt worth it. Off the top of my head I dont remember us having brilliant players to pull off the system either. It was like Keane, Scholes and Djemba Djemba or Kleberson or something... So thats 1 quality CM, a crippled Keane sitting in front of the defence and Djemba Djemba pretending to be a footballer.

Gerrard is more like when we moved Scholes back. Someone who didnt have all the tools to play a DM role well
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Yeah, Keane was a shadow of himself at that stage and the rest of our midfield was pretty dire. Remember thinking we'd be better off moving on rather than trying to accommodate him but nobody really stood out as a replacement. Makes our current Carrick situation seem like light work.

On a random side note, I just looked up a vid of Keane's goals and his shooting technique reminds me a lot of Herrera's.
 
I'm definitely good with signing Morgan Schneiderlin. We need a no-nonsense midfielder who's strong in the tackle and confident with the ball. We had the discussion a few days ago whether being "prem proven" is relevant. My two cents are that Morgan has acquitted himself very well against clubs we're going to have to beat next season to reclaim the league trophy and that has to count for something.

Sure, if a midfielder of the quality of Javi Martinez or Arturo Vidal in their prime were available, break the effing bank for either. But it seems more likely than not that we're going to spend a massive sum on Hummels, possibly Bale and maybe (hopefully!) a top striker. I'm not sure there's another 80m in the bank for Pogba or 40m for Vidal. Do Schneiderlin and spend the crazy money on Hummels and Cavani or whoever those elite players are going to be.
 
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