Mo Salah

Only thing that is stopping me from saying he has been a fantastic signing for us is knowing he has had many chances to score a lot more than he already has, he could easily ruin the easiest chance and then score the hardest after the second or third chance created and thats the frustrating for me about his game. Other than that he's been terrific and definitely suits us.

I see you are living up to your user name with that post. That last part contradicts the first part.

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Just say he's boss and save your energy.
 
I see what you mean - but in general that role of scoring every chance he gets shouldn't be sitting at salah's feet. The lack of a proper centre forward is probably the reason that's holding your attack from being super from being just good.
Mane - CF - Salah is pretty threatening; who have the fans been talking about as a CF?
This is a really good point. I felt similar about Lingard in LVG's second season where he seemed to go on that run of ballsing up our one chance in each game; the question being why is it falling to him.
 
Been a great signing has to be said.
He was so quick on the break for the first goal it was savage to watch has to be said.

I do not believe his rate of scoring will continue at all though.

If someone said at start of season he would score 13 goals they would have snapped your hand off tho. Great start by him
 
Been a great signing has to be said.
He was so quick on the break for the first goal it was savage to watch has to be said.

I do not believe his rate of scoring will continue at all though.

If someone said at start of season he would score 13 goals they would have snapped your hand off tho. Great start by him
Agree entirely. A player that I thought wouldn't step up and, even when he did, I assumed it wouldn't last. Bit the bullet and popped him in my fantasy football team last week and he's proved me wrong. He's come a long way since Chelsea...another player whose career they've stalled.
 
Chicken Tikka
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He has been a great signing for L'pool, but as he is, it's easier to see the reason he's not suitable for other teams. Quite wasteful which some other teams wouldn't afford. Pretty much Aubameyang esque in a sense.
 
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He has been a great signing for L'pool, but as he is, it's easier to see the reason he's not suitable for other teams. Quite wasteful which some other teams wouldn't afford. Pretty much Aubameyang esque in a sense.
Only thing that is stopping me from saying he has been a fantastic signing for us is knowing he has had many chances to score a lot more than he already has, he could easily ruin the easiest chance and then score the hardest after the second or third chance created and thats the frustrating for me about his game. Other than that he's been terrific and definitely suits us.

Awful finisher but has a fantastic knack for getting himself enough chances that it doesn't really matter. Gonna score a lot of goals for Liverpool.

I see what you mean - but in general that role of scoring every chance he gets shouldn't be sitting at salah's feet. The lack of a proper centre forward is probably the reason that's holding your attack from being super from being just good.
Mane - CF - Salah is pretty threatening; who have the fans been talking about as a CF?

His conversion rate is still pretty up there and consistent with the past couple years where he's scored bucket loads. Will have to wait and see how he handles playing so many more minutes this season but for sure he's been a great buy and echoing what you said if he can up his conversion to top top elite levels he will score a truck load.
What's been most impressive for me is not only his work rate but him getting goals out of nowhere when we aren't playing well.and the set up behind him being poor.

Mane and Salah are the Center forwards in Liverpool’s attack. Firmino’s positioning is more of a #10rather then a #9.

This is the perfect description. Although I expect him to hit a bad run of form at some point and be next to useless.

Liver-birds' assessment above is on the button for me. His wastefulness is overstated though of course he's not as efficient as most top strikers he actually has a far better conversion rate than Harry Kane and no-one would say Kane is wasteful ! A decent assessment comparing with all the top PL strikers (prior to yesterdays' 2 goals which will improve those stats considerably) here : http://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/spor...verpools-mohamed-salah-more-clinical-13817657

As for his goals per minutes played stats (prefered to goals per game) :
Salah : 13 goals+ 3 assists, 17 starts + 2 subs, a goal every 89.5 mins.
Lukaku : 10+3, 14 starts, 126 mins
Aguero : 9+0, 9 starts (+1 sub), 85 mins
Kane : 13+3, 13 starts (+3 subs), 86.5 mins

It's worth noting that Liverpool have played 7 out the Top 10 teams in the PL so far this season so his goals have not all come against relegation fodder. This bodes well for the rest of the season and there's no logical reason why his scoring rate would drop off, especially considering that in many of those games either Mane or Coutinho, or both, were absent. I'm not saying he is going to match Kane or Lukaku or Aguero but overall he's not far behind and I now hope to see 20 PL goals from him this season (Salah 7 so far), that would put him right behind Suarez as top scorer over the past 6-7 seasons.
 
Well Liverpool tend to struggle v lower sides so that stat doesn't really tell us anything
 
Liver-birds' assessment above is on the button for me. His wastefulness is overstated though of course he's not as efficient as most top strikers he actually has a far better conversion rate than Harry Kane and no-one would say Kane is wasteful ! A decent assessment comparing with all the top PL strikers (prior to yesterdays' 2 goals which will improve those stats considerably) here : http://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/spor...verpools-mohamed-salah-more-clinical-13817657

As for his goals per minutes played stats (prefered to goals per game) :
Salah : 13 goals+ 3 assists, 17 starts + 2 subs, a goal every 89.5 mins.
Lukaku : 10+3, 14 starts, 126 mins
Aguero : 9+0, 9 starts (+1 sub), 85 mins
Kane : 13+3, 13 starts (+3 subs), 86.5 mins

It's worth noting that Liverpool have played 7 out the Top 10 teams in the PL so far this season so his goals have not all come against relegation fodder. This bodes well for the rest of the season and there's no logical reason why his scoring rate would drop off, especially considering that in many of those games either Mane or Coutinho, or both, were absent. I'm not saying he is going to match Kane or Lukaku or Aguero but overall he's not far behind and I now hope to see 20 PL goals from him this season (Salah 7 so far), that would put him right behind Suarez as top scorer over the past 6-7 seasons.

Misleading. Kane doesn't miss gilt edged opportunities like Salah seems to regularly.
 
Well Liverpool tend to struggle v lower sides so that stat doesn't really tell us anything
Oh really. Isn't that another myth, based on performances from the previous couple of seasons, persisting ? We've played 3 teams from the bottom half of the table and won all three this season.
 
AH...3 games.
Case closed then. Notice I said struggle and not failure to win but whatever...
 
Misleading. Kane doesn't miss gilt edged opportunities like Salah seems to regularly.
Misleading ? Stats are stats. If Kane is not missing the gilt edged chances then he's missing many more half chances, the misses have to come from somewhere to make up the stats. Please note that of course I'm not saying Salah is a better striker, they are completely different plaeyrs, just saying that the commentary on his misses is a little misleading (esp. if you listen to, and believe, posters on forums) when we look at the actual figures.
 
Misleading ? Stats are stats. If Kane is not missing the gilt edged chances then he's missing many more half chances, the misses have to come from somewhere to make up the stats. Please note that of course I'm not saying Salah is a better striker, they are completely different plaeyrs, just saying that the commentary on his misses is a little misleading (esp. if you listen to, and believe, posters on forums) when we look at the actual figures.

He's probably missed a couple of huge sitters that stick with people, creating the perception that he's prone to miss chances - even more so because he's so left footed and looks so awkward on his right side.

In reality Salah's a very efficient finisher.
 
Incredible start to the season for Salah. 13 goals already? Even if he slows down, he could hit 30 in all compets which would be unexpected.
 
Misleading ? Stats are stats. If Kane is not missing the gilt edged chances then he's missing many more half chances, the misses have to come from somewhere to make up the stats. Please note that of course I'm not saying Salah is a better striker, they are completely different plaeyrs, just saying that the commentary on his misses is a little misleading (esp. if you listen to, and believe, posters on forums) when we look at the actual figures.

I'm referring more to the fact that Kane takes on shots from any different situations and takes far more speculative efforts, thus skewing the stats.
 
Misleading ? Stats are stats. If Kane is not missing the gilt edged chances then he's missing many more half chances, the misses have to come from somewhere to make up the stats. Please note that of course I'm not saying Salah is a better striker, they are completely different plaeyrs, just saying that the commentary on his misses is a little misleading (esp. if you listen to, and believe, posters on forums) when we look at the actual figures.

Just watched match of the day and I definitely think he is improving in this regard to be fair. I know they were fairly straightforward chances yesterday but he seems to be finishing with more confidence and conviction than earlier in the season.
 
Liver-birds' assessment above is on the button for me. His wastefulness is overstated though of course he's not as efficient as most top strikers he actually has a far better conversion rate than Harry Kane and no-one would say Kane is wasteful ! A decent assessment comparing with all the top PL strikers (prior to yesterdays' 2 goals which will improve those stats considerably) here : http://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/spor...verpools-mohamed-salah-more-clinical-13817657

As for his goals per minutes played stats (prefered to goals per game) :
Salah : 13 goals+ 3 assists, 17 starts + 2 subs, a goal every 89.5 mins.
Lukaku : 10+3, 14 starts, 126 mins
Aguero : 9+0, 9 starts (+1 sub), 85 mins
Kane : 13+3, 13 starts (+3 subs), 86.5 mins

It's worth noting that Liverpool have played 7 out the Top 10 teams in the PL so far this season so his goals have not all come against relegation fodder. This bodes well for the rest of the season and there's no logical reason why his scoring rate would drop off, especially considering that in many of those games either Mane or Coutinho, or both, were absent. I'm not saying he is going to match Kane or Lukaku or Aguero but overall he's not far behind and I now hope to see 20 PL goals from him this season (Salah 7 so far), that would put him right behind Suarez as top scorer over the past 6-7 seasons.

This is one of those things where you have to use your own eyes watching games and not relying on stats. Kane takes potshots from all over the pitch hence why his conversion rate probably isn't the best, but obviously if he gets a decent chance the overwhelming majority of the time he'll tuck it away.

Salah by contrast seems to have only been on the end of good chances this season for the most part, yet has missed some really easy ones.
 
Misleading. Kane doesn't miss gilt edged opportunities like Salah seems to regularly.

Look at the picture. Kane misses opportunities all over the place. I am very sure there were some great chances missed as well. Its like with Zlatan. The fact he scored many goals creates the myth of a clinical striker. Kane is English which adds to the hype. Some people even compared him to Messi.
Kane is a great striker, but Salah is the better overall player in my opinion. Salah creates more chances by himself. He makes unbelievable runs in tight spaces Kane can only dream of. Is probably in this regard the best in the league.
Kane is the wrong comparison anyways. Compare him to Sterling. And Salah is definately the better player.
 
This is one of those things where you have to use your own eyes watching games and not relying on stats. Kane takes potshots from all over the pitch hence why his conversion rate probably isn't the best, but obviously if he gets a decent chance the overwhelming majority of the time he'll tuck it away.

Salah by contrast seems to have only been on the end of good chances this season for the most part, yet has missed some really easy ones.

So you are saying Kane's decision making is quite bad and Salah's much better? After all a missed shot is a missed opportunity no matter how you put it. It's wasted possession.
 
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Liver-birds' assessment above is on the button for me. His wastefulness is overstated though of course he's not as efficient as most top strikers he actually has a far better conversion rate than Harry Kane and no-one would say Kane is wasteful ! A decent assessment comparing with all the top PL strikers (prior to yesterdays' 2 goals which will improve those stats considerably) here : http://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/spor...verpools-mohamed-salah-more-clinical-13817657

As for his goals per minutes played stats (prefered to goals per game) :
Salah : 13 goals+ 3 assists, 17 starts + 2 subs, a goal every 89.5 mins.
Lukaku : 10+3, 14 starts, 126 mins
Aguero : 9+0, 9 starts (+1 sub), 85 mins
Kane : 13+3, 13 starts (+3 subs), 86.5 mins

It's worth noting that Liverpool have played 7 out the Top 10 teams in the PL so far this season so his goals have not all come against relegation fodder. This bodes well for the rest of the season and there's no logical reason why his scoring rate would drop off, especially considering that in many of those games either Mane or Coutinho, or both, were absent. I'm not saying he is going to match Kane or Lukaku or Aguero but overall he's not far behind and I now hope to see 20 PL goals from him this season (Salah 7 so far), that would put him right behind Suarez as top scorer over the past 6-7 seasons.

There's one - he plays for Liverpool and you're incredibly inconsistent.
 
Liver-birds' assessment above is on the button for me. His wastefulness is overstated though of course he's not as efficient as most top strikers he actually has a far better conversion rate than Harry Kane and no-one would say Kane is wasteful ! A decent assessment comparing with all the top PL strikers (prior to yesterdays' 2 goals which will improve those stats considerably) here : http://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/spor...verpools-mohamed-salah-more-clinical-13817657

As for his goals per minutes played stats (prefered to goals per game) :
Salah : 13 goals+ 3 assists, 17 starts + 2 subs, a goal every 89.5 mins.
Lukaku : 10+3, 14 starts, 126 mins
Aguero : 9+0, 9 starts (+1 sub), 85 mins
Kane : 13+3, 13 starts (+3 subs), 86.5 mins

It's worth noting that Liverpool have played 7 out the Top 10 teams in the PL so far this season so his goals have not all come against relegation fodder. This bodes well for the rest of the season and there's no logical reason why his scoring rate would drop off, especially considering that in many of those games either Mane or Coutinho, or both, were absent. I'm not saying he is going to match Kane or Lukaku or Aguero but overall he's not far behind and I now hope to see 20 PL goals from him this season (Salah 7 so far), that would put him right behind Suarez as top scorer over the past 6-7 seasons.

That last paragraph is misleading too. He scored once in the 4-0 rout against Arsenal, got the consolation in a 4-1 defeat against Spurs, and apart from that his goal against Leicester away has probably been his only league goal in a tough fixture. He has exactly been a flat track bully so far.
 
Look at the picture. Kane misses opportunities all over the place. I am very sure there were some great chances missed as well. Its like with Zlatan. The fact he scored many goals creates the myth of a clinical striker. Kane is English which adds to the hype. Some people even compared him to Messi.
Kane is a great striker, but Salah is the better overall player in my opinion. Salah creates more chances by himself. He makes unbelievable runs in tight spaces Kane can only dream of. Is probably in this regard the best in the league.
Kane is the wrong comparison anyways. Compare him to Sterling. And Salah is definately the better player.

Well Jesus. I have no idea how you come to your conclusions re Kane. That's mind boggling, but for a different thread.
 
That last paragraph is misleading too. He scored once in the 4-0 rout against Arsenal, got the consolation in a 4-1 defeat against Spurs, and apart from that his goal against Leicester away has probably been his only league goal in a tough fixture. He has exactly been a flat track bully so far.

Harry Kane goals:


2 against Everton
2 against West Ham
2 against Huddersfield Town
2 against Liverpool (one was a gift from Louvren)


Flat track bully?
 
Harry Kane goals:


2 against Everton
2 against West Ham
2 against Huddersfield Town
2 against Liverpool (one was a gift from Louvren)


Flat track bully?

Kane is literally just after bullying Sergio Ramos and taking Real Madrid apart as a one man figurehead in attack. Not to mention what he did to Dortmund.

Why are you focussing on Kane in Salah's thread? You genuinely seem to have a massive chip on your shoulder re Harry Kane, and that's only 3 posts in here. What's your specific beef with Kane?
 
So you are saying Kane's decision making is quite bad and Salah's much better? After all a missed shot is a missed opportunity no matter how you put it. It's wasted possession.

Giving the ball away doesn’t necessarily make it a bad decision, sometimes you have to try stuff that’s risky and expressive otherwise you’d hardly create anything...

There are times when Kane might hit it from 35 yards and it’s a couple of feet off target, as opposed to playing a square ball out to a FB who’s got two defenders ahead of him on the wing and then as a result passes back to a player in his own half, in that situation it’s not the worst thing in the world to have shot.
 
He looks to be a top player it has to be said.

De Bruyne, Lukaku and Salah...some of the talent Chelsea sold in previous years is shocking.
 
Kane is literally just after bullying Sergio Ramos and taking Real Madrid apart as a one man figurehead in attack. Not to mention what he did to Dortmund.

Why are you focussing on Kane in Salah's thread? You genuinely seem to have a massive chip on your shoulder re Harry Kane, and that's only 3 posts in here. What's your specific beef with Kane?

You mean Borussia Dortmund that leaks tons of goals lately? Dortmund that could not even beat Apoel Nicosia?
You mean Real Madrid that has their worst start into the season for a long time? Yes I give him credit for that.
But if CL matters, why did you not mention Salahs goal against Sevilla? Because it does not fit your narrative?
I did not start the comparison. I like Harry Kane. I already mentioned it. You just seem to ignore it to fabricate another story me “having a beef with Kane“. I don’t like people applying double standard. Its you who tries to create an image of Salah being a fraud by picking stats you don’t accept against other players.

Why do you hate him so much? All this effort just to attack him for no reason.
 
He's class.

Perfect player for Liverpool and Klopp's style of play. They're just constantly at you and so fast on the break. I can't think of two better players for that system than Salah and Mane.
 
The type of player which is very useful if you utilize him properly. Like fellaini but in a different way.

His finishing is weird though, his technique doesn’t seem very clinical or refined. But seems to finish those chances so well on instinct.
 
14 goals and 3 assists in 18 games now and top scorer in PL as a winger!
What a signing so far
 
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He’s an absolute baller, had my doubts before but would love him here now he’s that good.
Best winger in the league atm imo, Mane, Sane and Martial aren’t far away tbf
 
Probably the signing of the summer so far. He's a bit of a weird player as whenever I've watched him he's not looked clinical, but has great numbers.
 
He really strived in the Liverpool system where they don’t have a target man to focus on. But I would say he surprised me so far on how effective he is as a goal scorer.
 
The funny thing is, similar to Ibrahimovic last season, he's missed loads of guilt-edged chances as well. He genuinely could be on ~20 goals already for the season.
 
Scousers have great wide players with him and Mane. Absolutely cracking signing, shame we didn’t go in for him.