Mo Salah

There is an element of truth to this ... less forward pressing would mean more defensive rigidity. However I don't want us to become the 2017/18 version of 2016/17 United. Klopp has of course had both Aubameyang and Lewandowski before so it's not like he's averse to prolific centre forwards, so long at they are energetic and know how to press intelligently. Another tick in the Auba box.
Not saying this. You aren't going to play like United, you'd be even more ineffective. Biggest problem second half of the season was that when teams parked the bus, you had no mean to break it down and were forced to move it wide and cross. Only, because you lacked a genuine threat inside the box, you were forced to send 3-4 players, included two CMs, into the box. The result was that when the your opponents got the ball at the edge of their box, they had plenty of space and only 3-4 players between them and your goal

A great box striker would allow you to be less gung-ho in those situations and thus mantain better positioning to cut off counter attacks, win the ball back right away and attack a "short transition"(dunno how else to call it :lol:)
 
Chelsea have a Moses; Man City have a Jesus; Liverpool have a Mohammed (along with Arsenal and Everton)
 
Proven signings are overrated. Liverpool are building something by utilizing potential. Especially players of the type they need. The only proven player they should look at because he is too good to turn down and affordable is Aubameyang. The rest should be signings like Mane was. Players on the cusp of becoming stars.
Agree. They've been doing it better than us of late. No wonder they're better to watch and better in attack than us.
 
Not saying this. You aren't going to play like United, you'd be even more ineffective. Biggest problem second half of the season was that when teams parked the bus, you had no mean to break it down and were forced to move it wide and cross. Only, because you lacked a genuine threat inside the box, you were forced to send 3-4 players, included two CMs, into the box. The result was that when the your opponents got the ball at the edge of their box, they had plenty of space and only 3-4 players between them and your goal

A great box striker would allow you to be less gung-ho in those situations and thus mantain better positioning to cut off counter attacks, win the ball back right away and attack a "short transition"(dunno how else to call it :lol:)
Whilst that is true, it is also true that we missed the pace of Mane, which is why many games slowed down to CB-RW-CM-LW-CM-CB-RW and repeat, Salah helps us correct that. Awesome pace when both are on the pitch and we will still have pace to utilise even when down to one of them. It's also true, as I pointed out before somewhere here before, that we lack players with anticipation and finishing within 5m, Salah and Mane both have that, coming in off their respective wings.
 
He's not but if Salah can replicate his goal scoring form for us we do have 4 or 5 players who could well hit double figures. Last season our goals we very well spread throughout the team.
Also it does seem we are in the market for a cm, cb and a lb

In terms of a player to win you things, I meant a Fowler, Owen or Suarez type. Seems you have a team set up to play around a great goalscorer but no real great goalscorer in the team. Alot of attacking midfield players if you will. Coutinho, Lallana, Mane, Salah, Firminho ( now a striker) but no real match winners. If you could get your hands on an Aubameyang or a Lewandowski like Klopp previously had I feel you guys would be well set up.

In terms of defensive targets after Van Dijk, who have you been linked with as I have not seen.
 
In terms of defensive targets after Van Dijk, who have you been linked with as I have not seen.
I think the management are still hoping a deal can get done considering VVD's stance and open desire to come to LFC. Chelsea may have other plans though.
 
Depends. He might be good in Lallana's role. Not in the dutchman's or hendo's

He'd be much better higher up the pitch, his best skill is his pace and acceleration, but he lacks the IQ to play deeper

I agree with your reasoning but disagree about the position, I actually think he'd be an upgrade on Georginio, rather than further forward where his lack of productivity and vision would show. As this is the Salah thread I'll leave it at that and stop derailing the thread :D
 
If it works out, him with Mané will be frightening on counters.
Most of the teams will let them have the ball at anfield. Thats why they suffered against shitty teams last season. Big teams will attack and get exposed.

I was expecting klopp to fix their ball possession stats in midfield and defensive astuity around their half. Well, im no coach but I think he will go on and make more defensive signings.

Unless they want to win every game 4-3. Home and away. With CL and qualifiers to play with. Without a significant trophy on his third season, the glitter of klopp will be similiar to Rodgers, kenny and the howliers.
It will be more difficult to sign good players because i genuinely believe most of players are signing on because of his legendary success at dortmund compared to the in famous "anfield factor". And his tactical naivety is being exposed now.
 
Chelsea have a Moses; Man City have a Jesus; Liverpool have a Mohammed (along with Arsenal and Everton)

That sounds like a bad joke starting; Moses, Jesus and Mohammed were playing football...
 
Good article on Salah:

All across Europe are scattered forwards who did not quite make it at Chelsea, some more bafflingly than others. There is Marko Marin, signed by Olympiakos last season after four years on Chelsea’s books with only two league starts. There is Patrick Bamford, signed by Middlesbrough in January after five years at Chelsea in which he did not start a single league game. There is Juan Cuadrado, freshly signed by Juventus after three years at Chelsea where he started just three games. It would not be a complete surprise if Chelsea turned out a box room at Stamford Bridge and turned up a Florent Malouda or a John Spencer, players they had bought a while ago and forgotten about.
And now, at Liverpool, there is Mohammed Salah, signed from Roma who bought him last summer after two and a half years at Chelsea in which he started six games. Salah’s time in flux, on loan at Fiorentina and then Roma, seems not to have harmed the winger.
On the contrary, the 25-year-old has thrived, scoring at roughly a goal every other game in Serie A over three seasons. Goals may be flowing more rapidly in Italian football than they used to be, but that is still a remarkable record for a player who tends to operate from the flank.
So what went wrong at Chelsea? Salah was signed from Basel in January 2014 for £16m. He had impressed for the Swiss club against Chelsea, scoring against them home and away in the Champions League, having played well against both Chelsea and Tottenham in the previous season’s Europa League.
Quick, direct, skilful – and yet he could barely get a game. In part, that was because of the presence of Willian and Eden Hazard and in part due to Mourinho’s occasional preference for a more defensive figure on the right to balance out Hazard on the left, which led him to pick Ramires. In that context, the question then becomes less what went wrong for Salah than why he was signed at all when Chelsea already had such established options in that area.
The arrival of Cesc Fàbregas the following summer, adding another midfield creator and freeing up Oscar to move to the right, further limited Salah’s options. It was not that he failed in the Premier League, it was that he never really got an opportunity. Once he was back playing regularly, in Italy, he became again the player he had been at Basel. It is not just the 35 goals he scored in 71 league starts for Fiorentina and Roma, it is the 20 assists and the pace and energy he brings.
In a Jürgen Klopp side, as Daniel Sturridge, another piece of Chelsea flotsam, would attest, attacking prowess is not enough. Salah has consistently averaged around one successful tackle and between 0.5 and one interceptions per game. That might not sound a huge amount but even winning the ball back one and a half times a game high up the pitch can be hugely threatening. The issue anyway is more one of intent: Salah is prepared to lead the press, and that is vital for Liverpool’s forward players. By comparison, Sadio Mané made 0.9 tackles per 90 minutes last season and 0.3 interceptions.Mané, of course, is key to Salah’s integration. It was not the only reason for Liverpool’s slump in the early part of the year but they were clearly a diminished team when Mané left for the Africa Cup of Nations (Salah, of course, is also likely to be involved in 2019 for Egypt). Salah, like Mané, is adept at carrying the ball with a burst of pace, and so can slot in readily enough on the right, although he has operated on the left.
He is not just cover for Mané, though. Salah could play on one wing with Mané on the other, with Philippe Coutinho operating more centrally. Or it is easy to imagine Salah linking well with Divock Origi, a more orthodox centre-forward: last season he created 22 chances for Eden Dzeko, seven of them scored – the second-most prolific combination in Europe’s top five leagues (after Ousmane Dembélé to Pierre-Emerick Aubameyang at Dortmund).
That disappointing spell at Chelsea means questions will inevitably be asked such as can Salah do it on a wet Tuesday night in Stoke? But against Ghana at the Cup of Nations, he did it on a humid Wednesday night in Port Gentil, inspiring Egypt to a 1-0 win on a pitch so bad that you suspect the Bet365 Stadium played better even before they had laid the turf. Frankly, if he can do it on tufted sand, Salah can do it anywhere.
If nothing else, Salah increases Klopp’s options and allows him to ease the burden on his forward line. But given his form over the past five years whenever he has had a regular game, there are plenty of reasons to think Salah will thrive on Merseyside.
 
10 goals so far this season and looking to score 20+ in a team largely without Coutinho and Mane. He's looking like a real bargain so far and tbf should be on 20 goals already with the amount of chances he has missed so far.

He reminds me of Suarez in his first 2 seasons when he kept hitting the post, so hopefully he can improve his finishing like Suarez and go on to become a 30 goal winger.
 
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10 goals so far this season and looking to score 20+ in a team largely without Coutinho and Mane. He's looking like a real bargain so far and tbf should be on 20 goals already with the amount of chances he has missed so far.

He reminds me of Suarez in his first 2 seasons when he kept hitting the post, so hopefully he can improve his finishing like Suarez and go on to become a 30 goal winger.

Yeah looking like money well spent, I love how direct he is, rapid aswell and brilliant at running in behind, if he was more clinical as you say I think he'd be world-class.

With the set-up Liverpool have they should really think about transitioning to being primarily a counter-attacking team, the likes of Salah, Mane, Coutinho are going to be virtually impossible to stop on the counter and let's be honest you don't have the defence to sit high-up on the pitch.

Mourinho would have worked wonders with your team at the moment I reckon. :smirk:
 
The money look well-spent on him. He is perfect for Liverpool's style of play, with his great pace and acceleration.
 
Mane, Salah and Keira are perfect for their style and they are doing quite well in the transfer market to identify the players suited to their style or Klopps one. They need to improve their defense though, hopefully that will bever happen
 
The money look well-spent on him. He is perfect for Liverpool's style of play, with his great pace and acceleration.

Yeah, that an excellent signing for them unfortunately. he has been excellent so far. Klopp's style of play suits him perfectly.
 
Only thing that is stopping me from saying he has been a fantastic signing for us is knowing he has had many chances to score a lot more than he already has, he could easily ruin the easiest chance and then score the hardest after the second or third chance created and thats the frustrating for me about his game. Other than that he's been terrific and definitely suits us.
 
Awful finisher but has a fantastic knack for getting himself enough chances that it doesn't really matter. Gonna score a lot of goals for Liverpool.
 
One of those players that I genuinely think wouldn't have looked all that playing for us or Chelsea, but he fits their system to a tee.

Not a top class player, but a top class piece in Liverpool's puzzle.
 
Only thing that is stopping me from saying he has been a fantastic signing for us is knowing he has had many chances to score a lot more than he already has, he could easily ruin the easiest chance and then score the hardest after the second or third chance created and thats the frustrating for me about his game. Other than that he's been terrific and definitely suits us.

I see what you mean - but in general that role of scoring every chance he gets shouldn't be sitting at salah's feet. The lack of a proper centre forward is probably the reason that's holding your attack from being super from being just good.
Mane - CF - Salah is pretty threatening; who have the fans been talking about as a CF?
 
Only thing that is stopping me from saying he has been a fantastic signing for us is knowing he has had many chances to score a lot more than he already has, he could easily ruin the easiest chance and then score the hardest after the second or third chance created and thats the frustrating for me about his game. Other than that he's been terrific and definitely suits us.
His conversion rate is still pretty up there and consistent with the past couple years where he's scored bucket loads. Will have to wait and see how he handles playing so many more minutes this season but for sure he's been a great buy and echoing what you said if he can up his conversion to top top elite levels he will score a truck load.
What's been most impressive for me is not only his work rate but him getting goals out of nowhere when we aren't playing well.and the set up behind him being poor.
 
He's a odd one. Knew he'd score a shed load this season; he has that knack, but so often he just looks absolutely shit. Certainly not a bad knack to have.
 
I see what you mean - but in general that role of scoring every chance he gets shouldn't be sitting at salah's feet. The lack of a proper centre forward is probably the reason that's holding your attack from being super from being just good.
Mane - CF - Salah is pretty threatening; who have the fans been talking about as a CF?
Mane and Salah are the Center forwards in Liverpool’s attack. Firmino’s positioning is more of a #10rather then a #9.
 
I see what you mean - but in general that role of scoring every chance he gets shouldn't be sitting at salah's feet. The lack of a proper centre forward is probably the reason that's holding your attack from being super from being just good.
Mane - CF - Salah is pretty threatening; who have the fans been talking about as a CF?
A proper CF will take a lot of the chances that they're getting now for himself
 
Lovely player and really likeable as well. Would be the perfect right winger for us. Again.

Agreed, would have loved us to sign him. Even though Jose didn't give him a chance at Chelsea, Mata and Lukaku were in the same situation as him.
 
Former Chelsea player who never really got a chance to shine: Since leaving Chelsea he played 26 games for Fiorentina and managed 9 goals and 4 assists in 14/15 (half season loan); in the 15/16 season for Roma he got 15 goals and 6 assists in 42 games; this season for Roma he has 10 goals and 7 assists in 22 games. His record for Egypt is also 1 in 2 (53 Caps 29 Goals)

He is still only 24 and from the snippets of him that I've seen, he looks a pretty good player who is improving all the time. His main attributes seem to be his pace, technical ability and dribbling. He is playing in a very exciting Roma side by the looks of things (they seem to score quite a-lot) and really excelling.

Has anyone who has watched him regularly the last few seasons been impressed by him? Will a bigger club come calling again?
I think he is an average player and does not deserve a big team.