Mo Salah

Wibble said:
Scholes
Giggs
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Scholes and Giggs won’t go down as good as Salah and Henry in the PL when all said and done, only one of them won a PFA Player of The Year at any time, their peaks wasn’t high enough to be in that conversation of 3-4 greatest players to play in the league. Ronaldo Henry Salah are.
 
Like for like? No. However, they seem to have a knack of replacing great attacker with great attacker lately. Torres with Suarez then Salah (They went after Salah and lost out to Chelsea the first time). Not seamlessly but it's quite very good when comparing to us, who haven't had a forward hitting the same height as some of the more prolific forwards under SAF. Drogba and Diego Costa being Chelsea best forward over the past two decades are damning in comparison.
 
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I don’t think so, he’s such a dependable player the drop off from him to almost anyone is massive. They’ll need to replace VVD soon as well, think this season might be their last real shot for a while at the league as Salah I reckon will move for big money to Saudi.
 
Pascal Quiff said:
Agree to disagree, nothing wrong with that. I'd only have Best up there with Henry, going on old footage and what others have said about him.
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I'm no Ronaldo fan boy but Ronaldo's 07/08 season is better than anything Henry has ever produced in the PL. Won the PL and the CL, along with the Ballon d'Or. I've never seen another player have any season like that in the PL.

Henry was a ridiculous player though. Always felt he was far better than Ruud despite Ruud producing similar goalscoring numbers from 2002-2004
 
tomaldinho1 said:
I don’t think so, he’s such a dependable player the drop off from him to almost anyone is massive. They’ll need to replace VVD soon as well, think this season might be their last real shot for a while at the league as Salah I reckon will move for big money to Saudi.
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It would be smart for L'pool to sell Salah for 150 & reinvest the money wisely. Salah is one of a kind in my mind & it's very doubtful he can be replaced like for like but buying three young quality players would put them in great shape.
 
Righteous Steps said:
Scholes and Giggs won’t go down as good as Salah and Henry in the PL when all said and done, only one of them won a PFA Player of The Year at any time, their peaks wasn’t high enough to be in that conversation of 3-4 greatest players to play in the league. Ronaldo Henry Salah are.
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WTF - Giggs has 13 PL winners medals over 20 years, Scholes has 11 and you think they're not in the top 3-4
 
They got lucky with Mane, Salah and Firmino. Buying players that have the raw ingredients for a lower price is a risky move that more often than not doesnt pay off.

Nowadays you spend 70m and get an Antony or a Darwin.
 
Red in STL said:
WTF - Giggs has 13 PL winners medals over 20 years, Scholes has 11 and you think they're not in the top 3-4
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No it’s not just about team honours it’s about individual performances, if you just go on honours then there are more decorated PL players than Henry and Ronaldo, wouldn’t take any of them above them if asked for the best player in PL history though.
 
Righteous Steps said:
No it’s not just about team honours it’s about individual performances, if you just go on honours then there are more decorated PL players than Henry and Ronaldo, wouldn’t take any of them above them if asked for the best player in PL history though.
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To be at a club for that length of time and be that successful you have to be pretty consistently good, especially under SAF, Ronaldo left well before his peak as a player which clouds people's judgement, his overall career is as good as it gets but his early PL years were much like Garnacho's, Henry is definitely top 3 IMO, maybe even first

As for influence, Keane is mentioned but for me the most influential player in PL history was Cantona, he was the catalyst that made United what they became
 
They won't be able to replace him and they will be weaker without him. However, regardless of whoever they get, Klopp will still get the team as a whole functioning because he's too good a manager.
 
Salah is one of the best players in the history of the PL, so while it's not impossible that they can find someone who does a similar job, it's inevitable that there will be a drop off. Similar story to when Ronaldo left us (I know we didn't directly replace him but almost anyone that year would have caused a drop off), Arsenal with Henry, Real with Ronaldo, etc. It's inevitable when you have such an individually good player.
 
Will be a sad day when the last of our fantastic front three leaves. It’s also hard to imagine us replacing him with any one player, although I guess we didn’t expect to replace Suarez’ goals either.

In any case, it’ll be interesting to see what happens in the summer if Saudi offers 150m again or something like it.

I’d be inclined to take it if all of it went towards new signings. Not because I want to see him leave but if the alternative is letting him go on a free the next year.
 
Righteous Steps said:
RVN no, near equal in goalscoring and a far lesser footballer and playmaker.
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SALAH

YearsTeamApps(Gls)
2010–2012Al Mokawloon38(11)
2012–2014Basel47(9)
2014–2016Chelsea13(2)
2015→ Fiorentina (loan)16(6)
2015–2016→ Roma (loan)34(14)
2016–2017Roma31(15)
2017–Liverpool236(149)


RVN


YearsTeamApps(Gls)
1993–1997Den Bosch69(17)
1997–1998Heerenveen31(13)
1998–2001PSV Eindhoven67(62)
2001–2006Manchester United150(95)
2006–2010Real Madrid68(46)
2010–2011Hamburger SV36(12)
2011–2012Málaga28(4)
Total449(249)

They are in the same boat.
 
Hammondo said:
Firstly PL.

Secondly I don't really think any of those mentioned that were in the PL era were as soon as Salah in the pl.
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Ronaldo
Rooney
RVN
Cantona

...not as good as Salah ??
 
christinaa said:
SALAH

YearsTeamApps(Gls)
2010–2012Al Mokawloon38(11)
2012–2014Basel47(9)
2014–2016Chelsea13(2)
2015→ Fiorentina (loan)16(6)
2015–2016→ Roma (loan)34(14)
2016–2017Roma31(15)
2017–Liverpool236(149)


RVN


YearsTeamApps(Gls)
1993–1997Den Bosch69(17)
1997–1998Heerenveen31(13)
1998–2001PSV Eindhoven67(62)
2001–2006Manchester United150(95)
2006–2010Real Madrid68(46)
2010–2011Hamburger SV36(12)
2011–2012Málaga28(4)
Total449(249)

They are in the same boat.
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Yea Salah's is a lot more impressive.
 
Is it premature to say it or is he starting to show signs of decline?

Just thinking, with a new manager in the summer and if Salah is really dropping off it could be tempting to cash in should the Saudis come in for him again with a similar offer to last year. A clean break to kick off a new era.

Can see arguments the other way too though. New manager might well feel he neads his experienced heads and team leaders around to help him out at first. Too much change at once can be a risky thing indeed, and the likes of Gakpo and Darwin Nunez don't exactly look reliable for the future. We also don't know the state of play in Saudi Arabia, and if they will be seeking to spend big again.
 
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He’s been crap for a while now. His performances post injury and AFCON have really stunk the place out.
 
Chipper said:
Is it premature to say it or is he starting to show signs of decline?

Just thinking, with a new manager in the summer and if Salah is really dropping off it could be tempting to cash in should the Saudis come in for him again with a similar offer to last year. A clean break to kick off a new era.

Can see arguments the other way too though. New manager might well feel he neads his experienced heads and team leaders around to help him out at first. Too much change at once can be a risky thing indeed. We also don't know the state of play in Saudi Arabia, and if they will be seeking to spend big again.
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Personally, I think he is the only one left there with magic. The guy is still dangerous as hell, he can't do it all though, his supporting cast is not where it was a few years ago, and in fairness and to your point likely he is not either. Still a wonderful player.
 
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