Mo Salah

FootballHQ said:
They botched the Suarez recruitment that summer. Had that bizarre strategy of going for Rickie Lambert (who was already about 32), Balotelli (enough said) and Markovic was a sort of final third player who also did very little. Not sure if Borini was already there but another who was nowhere near good enough.

Mane and Firmino came in the next summer but both took a while to settle in, certainly Firmino looked completely off the pace for six months.
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Rickie Lambert's age didn't matter because he was basically bait to lure Lallana there.

Gosh, I miss the days when their transfer strategies were this piss poor.
 
Pascal Quiff said:
Salah is honestly the best player in the PL and has been for a while. Only Henry is above him in my honest opinion, in terms of the league. Can't be replaced, the best hope is to change the attacking dynamic to spread the burden.
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What the best player ever in the PL?
 
Bowen would be that guy to replace what he does. Not to the same level at all but I reckon he could get to 15-20 league goals a season.
 
I was thinking during the match yesterday, that without Salah that front three is quite average. Diaz is off form after his injuries, Gakpo doesn't do much, and Nunez is very inconsistent. Jota can be good when he plays, but when Salah leaves they are going to need a new star player to be challenging again.

In some ways it was a classic Salah performance against Arsenal. If you take away the goal, I thought he was very, very poor, but he always has it in him to produce a moment of real quality in these close games.
 
erikcred said:
Rickie Lambert's age didn't matter because he was basically bait to lure Lallana there.

Gosh, I miss the days when their transfer strategies were this piss poor.
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In consecutive summer windows they lost Suarez and Sterling, and the attacking reinforcements they brought in were Lambert, Markovic, Origi, Balotelli, Ings, Firmino and Benteke.

Halcyon days.
 
Not properly. Salah’s departure will probably coincide with Klopp’s, ending Liverpool’s current cycle at the top.
 
Robbie Boy said:
Yeah that's the thing; they haven't done too well replacing Firmino and Mane. The peak front three of Mane, Firmino and Salah was insanely good. Diaz and Nunez haven't really been up to much despite the silly early hype around Diaz.
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Agree with this but I'd add Gakpo to the mix also who seems very average. I think Diaz has been ruined by his knee injury, doesn't seem to be able to beat a player at all now and final product had already been an issue before that
 
Mike Smalling said:
I was thinking during the match yesterday, that without Salah that front three is quite average. Diaz is off form after his injuries, Gakpo doesn't do much, and Nunez is very inconsistent. Jota can be good when he plays, but when Salah leaves they are going to need a new star player to be challenging again.

In some ways it was a classic Salah performance against Arsenal. If you take away the goal, I thought he was very, very poor, but he always has it in him to produce a moment of real quality in these close games.
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Did you see the pass for TAA, who struck the bar when he should have scored ?
 
What's interesting about him is that he wasn't this good at Roma or the clubs befire. It was only at Liverpool that he basically exploded into an elite player.

Anyway, his output will be very hard to replace.
 
VorZakone said:
What's interesting about him is that he wasn't this good at Roma or the clubs befire. It was only at Liverpool that he basically exploded into an elite player.

Anyway, his output will be very hard to replace.
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That's not entirely true, I remember him at Roma being pretty decent and having a similar goals to game ratio then he does at Liverpool in his second season.
 
In general Klopp has done a poor rebuilding job and Salah really is carrying them. Without him, I reckon they're 5th or 6th right now. It's crazy how good peak-Klopp Liverpool were. Now, they're nothing more than a pale imitation being carried by Salah.
 
Probably not, you could have said similar after Suarez... 13/14 It did take 3 years until 16/17 until they got back in top 4. They fully recovered by 17/18 when they signed Salah...
 
Champ said:
That's not entirely true, I remember him at Roma being pretty decent and having a similar goals to game ratio then he does at Liverpool in his second season.
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When he came from Roma, nobody would have remotely expected him to score 30+ league goals in his first season.
 
FootballHQ said:
I was thinking watching the first half today just what a clutch player this guy is. Basically the xG for his chance from that angle would've been very low indeed for majority of other players and yet he sticks it into the top corner no problem. This was at a time Liverpool were being dominated and it transformed the complexion of the game completely.

He's fantastic on the counter, finishes most of his one on ones and currently has just the 12 prem goals in 18 games plus some brilliant assists and barely misses a game.

That's quite a profile.

I was amazed so many of their ex players and pundits in the media were so desperate for them to cash in on him at the end of August as Liverpool would be nowhere near title race if he wasn't around.

Was quite funny the amount of press in pre season saying Nunez would score 25 prem goals with his eyes closed this season, the reality is very different indeed for a second season running.

Gakpo is o.k...but no more at the top level and takes rash decisions when entering penalty area. Diaz and Jota are good and fit Klopp's system but miss too many games through injury.

In previous years it wasn't too bad for them with Mane and Firmino around but I can see them dipping significantly again next season if they botch the CF recruitment given their defence is getting on aswell.
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Hope not.
 
Mike Smalling said:
Yeah, so? He got one simple pass right, and messed pretty much everything else besides the goal. He gave the ball away so many times.
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Not a simple pass by a long shot, he carried the ball over half the length of the field and produced a perfectly weighed passed while running.

The goal was hardly a tap in.

Two moments of game-changing individual brilliance in a game of that profile is way more than most can do.
 
Always wondered about this. He's one of the best 5 players in the world (but the bar is so low right now). He won't be replaced with one player alone. Liverpool will certainly miss him.
 
It'll be very hard and will take them a lot of time to find a goalscorer with the same efficiency as Salah. They'll surely do at one point but it won't that simple. He scores at least 30 goals every year. Not many players can say they can do this.
 
christinaa said:
What the best player ever in the PL?
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In my opinion, Henry. I would say Salah is below him but is probably the best of the rest. If you look at consistency, as well as the ability to affect games when it matters, he's one of the best.
 
He's hard to replace, but if they're willing to give us a fair price for Antony he could be their next star... Please.
 
Pascal Quiff said:
In my opinion, Henry. I would say Salah is below him but is probably the best of the rest. If you look at consistency, as well as the ability to affect games when it matters, he's one of the best.
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Disagree.
We had a number of better players than Salah or Henry at United
 
Goal aside, I thought he was poor yesterday and gave away possession easily on a few occasions. That said his goal changed the flow of the game and it’s difficult to replace that.
 
VorZakone said:
What's interesting about him is that he wasn't this good at Roma or the clubs befire. It was only at Liverpool that he basically exploded into an elite player.

Anyway, his output will be very hard to replace.
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Eeeeeh. I mean yes in terms of output, but also, his 6 months loan at Fiorentina was the stuff of legend
 
christinaa said:
Disagree.
We had a number of better players than Salah or Henry at United
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Who? I can only make an argument for Rooney or Ronaldo possibly being in that conversation with Salah....Henry was on a whole different level to anyone else throughout the PL timeline, bar that one freakish season that Suarez had.
 
JogaBonitoRooney said:
Yeah but they probably won't. They hit the jackpot with him. He's a generational player.
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Yep. Either they get lucky and replace him or you will see a huge drop off. In 2-3 years, I could see Liverpool becoming a midtable side with the dropoff of Salah, VVD, and Allison.
 
Replace him? Not remotely.
But as the highest profile Muslim player in the world, the Saudi's will see him as the jewel in the crown that they need.
It all depends how Liverpool spend the massive bag of money they're going to get
 
Wonder who's getting Osimhen?

O.k he's not Salah (but then said above who is) but you feel that's the sort of forward who'd keep them up there.

He surely wouldn't turn down sides offering CL football just to sign for Chelsea because Drogba was his idol growing up?!
 
It depends what you mean by 'replace'. There are very few players of his calibre, and the chances of Liverpool being able to obtain any such player and have him fit into their team and deliver in a manner comparable to Salah, well that seems pretty unlikely and the experiences of many clubs tell us that it's rare, regardless of the big budget they may boast if he leaves in the summer.

He's the kind of player whose contributions are perhaps more effectively replaced by reshaping the team's attacking system. I believe that Klopp is certainly capable of restructuring his team to ensure that Salah's goals come from others, but given the pretty underwhelming returns of Liverpool's newer attackers so far, I expect that there'll be an immediate trough before he's able to find the formula and system that endures.
 
Pascal Quiff said:
Salah is honestly the best player in the PL and has been for a while. Only Henry is above him in my honest opinion, in terms of the league. Can't be replaced, the best hope is to change the attacking dynamic to spread the burden.
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Bowen with TAA behind him would come closr
 
Maniron said:
Bowen with TAA behind him would come closr
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Ye and I heard the commentator say in Liverpools game that klopp said Bowen is his favourite player outside of his team. Can see them going after him.
 
FootballHQ said:
Wonder who's getting Osimhen?

O.k he's not Salah (but then said above who is) but you feel that's the sort of forward who'd keep them up there.

He surely wouldn't turn down sides offering CL football just to sign for Chelsea because Drogba was his idol growing up?!
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You’d think they’d go for a right sided attacker though not a number 9. Someone like Bowen could replace Salah.
 
Pascal Quiff said:
Who? I can only make an argument for Rooney or Ronaldo possibly being in that conversation with Salah....Henry was on a whole different level to anyone else throughout the PL timeline, bar that one freakish season that Suarez had.
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Ronaldo
Charlton
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Denis Law
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Rooney
 
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