Are you finally awake and able to see the difference now? Are you finally able to see that there is no improvement?
Arteta turned Arsenal into a far more resolute side than Emery you said?
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Are you finally awake and able to see the difference now? Are you finally able to see that there is no improvement?
Arteta turned Arsenal into a far more resolute side than Emery you said?
The 5 at the back really played a good trick on you.Give over.
The squad finished mid table last year and 5th the season before. They are plummetting towards relegation.
Mid-table mediocrity was the worst they could have expected this season.
There is probably a decent 'coach' in him, but manager he ain't. His tactics in the league don't suit the players he has.
The real problem with Arsenal is the recruitment and absentee owner.
I remember discussing with friends about Arteta and wondering just where his hype was coming from. No CV to speak of. Assistant to Pep yeah but since when was that ever an indicator of acumen? I couldn't see anything that made me think this was an elite manager in the making. Not even when they beat us or won those cups. He had the usual new manager bounce, which wasn't even as good as Ole's. Since then, it's been a regression to the mean. He might yet make a decent manager, but so far, I see nothing to be impressed by.
Do we really know that? Nothing in their play, even last season, suggests this. It's just an assumption cos he was with Pep. Look at Southampton and you'll see a coach in Pep's mould. They went toe to toe with Citeh today. I'm not sure what Arteta wants but there's no evidence he's able to coach Pep style.
Ffs, they should sack him right now; tonight.
From now on, it would be a race to avoid finishing 17th or even 18th. Sack him and let the new manager prepare the winter window.
From now on, it would be a race to avoid finishing 17th or even 18th. Sack him and let the new manager prepare the winter window.
A downward trajectory began before Arteta came. I don't blame him for this mess. I would point that problems are above him. But as a manager he will have to take concenquence of poor league position. If they sack him, the problems will still be there.
I know. Everyone keeps saying that but I haven't seen an inkling of that even during their best form.
Well a quick search would suggest your "almost all".... is basically well 50% or below.
Premier League 2019-20 review: our predictions versus reality | Premier League | The Guardian
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Premier League 2019/20 predictions: Champions, top four, bottom three, best signing, biggest flop, VAR and more | The Independent | The Independent (8 people of which 3 have Arsenal top 4)
Extremely early Premier League 2019/20 season predictions: Title, top four, relegation and more - football.london (13 of which 7 have them 4th and no higher)
Predictions for 2019-20 Premier League table - ProSoccerTalk | NBC Sports (3 out of 6)
Not to be pedantic and all..... and also looking at these, kudos to United to truly outperforming their general consensus prediction. Because generally I don't read pre-season predictions.
I agree that it is hard to see that in their play. But I think it is more down to what players they have for that kind of football. Or I should say, lack of it. Arsenal have big, big decision to make. You either give him 2-3 years to completly change the squad meaning at least 10 - 15 players out. Or you sack him this week and get some manager that will be there to try to get some reaction from players with different style of football.
Yes, you are being pedantic .... and I'll take 50%
Pity they cant get big Sam in now isnt it?
The manager he reminds me most of is Houllier.
Both came with a background of sophisticated continental attacking football. Given a missive to rebuild a faltering and porous top side with a weak mentality.
Does so with a fearful defensive approach, freezing out good players who could be an asset in a more expansive side, overly reliant on a pacey goalscorer for points. Spent biggest in their first summer to get a top defensive midfielder in. Heart in the right place though.
Houllier had more tricks up his sleeve tactically though and a much better squad to work with.
Don’t understand the narrative that their team is poor. It’s short term bias. Team was fine when they were beating Liverpool and city last year with good performances.
They’ve got injuries but Arteta getting rid of Ozil, Torreira and Guendouzi who would all add to this team is costing them.
Auba and Laca are good, Tierney is decent and Gabriel looks a good signing. Arteta has absolutely killed all their creativity, every attacking player has went backwards under him now as it stands. They’ll be fine under another manager, will finish top half.
They’ve got injuries but Arteta getting rid of Ozil, Torreira and Guendouzi who would all add to this team is costing them.
Auba and Laca are good, Tierney is decent and Gabriel looks a good signing. Arteta has absolutely killed all their creativity, every attacking player has went backwards under him now as it stands. They’ll be fine under another manager, will finish top half.
I don't like kicking someone when they are down, but the situation is not good for Arsenal fans. Their coach is not getting a tune of his players, but they also are a mess off the pitch with some awful owners.
Still, think the kids showed some decent grit. Too bad he fecked off some of their better older players and kept the shit ones.
Still, think the kids showed some decent grit. Too bad he fecked off some of their better older players and kept the shit ones.
That is a bizarre take.
Arsenal are easily a mid-table side. They were 8th when Emery was let go.
Arteta is in danger of relegating them. They'd really be fecked if we hadn't have shit the bed against them.
, dominating teams? They’re bottom in chances created (or were when they played Tottenham)He's worse than Moyes at this point
Where's Ozil?
There's no denying there were various improvements initially when he took over.Are you finally awake and able to see the difference now? Are you finally able to see that there is no improvement?
Arteta turned Arsenal into a far more resolute side than Emery you said?
I said in quite a few subsequent posts that he's failing to get the best out of the team this season and will rightly be sacked if he continues to be so passive.
It's not just about formation in the initial "bounce" with Arsenal - they looked like they were overcoming a mental block with big results and ended up winning a cup. So it's not exactly a crime to conclude Arteta looked like he was building something at that stage.
Can any Arsenal fans chime into as WHY Ozil is not even in the squad? Has he been so poor at football he's not worthy of a shirt in the PL season? He's lightyears better than some of the players there. On his day he's a gamebreaker.
Is it because he would't take a paycut? Ozil donates more money to charity than the entire Arsenal squad combined. I just don't get it.
If the teams behind Arsenal pick 3 points in their game in hand, Arsenal are 1 point from direct relegation after 40% of the season is played. That's insane.
Is it because he would't take a paycut? Ozil donates more money to charity than the entire Arsenal squad combined. I just don't get it.
If the teams behind Arsenal pick 3 points in their game in hand, Arsenal are 1 point from direct relegation after 40% of the season is played. That's insane.
Houllier was a lot more experienced by the time he landed at Liverpool though. He’d already taken Lens from Ligue 2 to Ligue 1 and into the European places then won Ligue 1 with PSG prior to his jobs as technical director and subsequently manager of the french national team. He had a lot more in the memory bank to draw on to rectify issues as they arose.
Arteta is a complete greenhorn, and looking grossly inexperienced and out of his depth every passing day. He actually reminds me of AVB at Chelsea - someone who has been over promoted and now finds themselves out of their depth, and doesn’t know what to do to put out the fire.
Think it had something to do with his comment calling out the Chinese on their oppression of Uighur Muslims
He's not registered for the PL squad I don't think?
That sounds about right.
They should flip ahead in the play book and hire Rafa now.
If that's the case Arteta should have commended Ozil for having a spine.
They didn't even get a new manager bounce! They were this shit last season aswell they just had Auba and Leno/Emi performing miracles to get them results against the balance of play.
As underwhelming as I think the Arsenal squad is he's about to get sacked if results don't improve soon.
It's Arsenal who've distanced themselves. And that's where it gets stupider when you look from their POV.
Here you have a player at 350k or so, and you dont want to play him because of the backlash.
The plan of action is pretty simple- buy a replacement and sell him (at the very least do the 1st one), and they've done neither
If that really is true that is despicable from arsenal.
instead said he left out Ozil from PL squad for "footballing reasons".
Is Arteta under any media pressure at all? As an outsider, it feels like the media is still treating him like a promising up-and-comer.
This is simply relegation form. And I see no clear signs that Arteta will turn it around. Has to be sacked by now.
Although Arsenal won't be relegated as Sheffield United, West Brom and Fulham are considerably worse. Brighton play much better football, but can't score anything.
I wonder why he doesn't play his Europa league team in the PL, as they seem to be doing quite well and has the winning momentum.
Although Arsenal won't be relegated as Sheffield United, West Brom and Fulham are considerably worse. Brighton play much better football, but can't score anything.
I wonder why he doesn't play his Europa league team in the PL, as they seem to be doing quite well and has the winning momentum.
I think.there s more than that.
He was already in a steep decline before he did that, it was simply the final nail in the coffin. Guy can't even finish the full 90 anymore.