Do we actually have an Arsenal thread for this season or we just throwing everything into the let's slag Lego Pep thread?
Mikel Arteta | Lego Pep watch
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I honestly don't get all this Arteta-trashing. Far from being a failure or a disaster, I actually think he is on course to building a decent team and his partnership with Edu looks very promising. He won silverware within five months of taking over, something he deserves credit for. Sir Alex is easily the most successful manager ever in British football. But this is how Fergie's career in England started: 1986/7 - finished 11th, no trophy. 1987/8 - finished 2nd, no trophy. 1988/9 - finished 11th, no trophy. 1989/90 - finished 13th, won FA Cup. Arteta is a very young, inexperienced manager with the youngest squad in the league taking on some of the richest clubs and best managers in the toughest league in the world. Personally I think he is showing progress and deserves time for his plan to deliver, which l think he will.
People should stop using SAF name randomly to defend every tom, dick and harry.
SAF had successful career before ManUtd too.
Seeing the great man's name being used to draw up these weird comparisons with the likes of Ole and Arteta, is sickening tbh.
Yeah, SAF achieved a lot before Manutd job, by luck or proper judgement we stood by him and it worked out well. Doesn't mean every manager will achieve that with time, or comes anywhere near that.
Even ignoring that he had a successful career that pre-dated his appointment at Manchester United; times have totally changed since Fergie was appointed, and managers no longer get the kind of patience that he was afforded.
What's this obsession of comparing Arteta's time with SAF. It's like people act his Aberdeen time never existed.
Yh plus a lot has changed since SAF was about so not sure it's the right comparison to be made.
I'm all for Arteta and have been for a while, but that's mostly as I see him progressing as a manager and I can see what he's trying to do. I want to see how it pans out. Worst comes to worst, we do have a squad which I think a lot of managers wouldn't mind taking over.
I'm all for Arteta and have been for a while, but that's mostly as I see him progressing as a manager and I can see what he's trying to do. I want to see how it pans out. Worst comes to worst, we do have a squad which I think a lot of managers wouldn't mind taking over.
Yeah, I get it
Arteta has hair, SAF also has hair.
The PR around Arteta is incredible to be fair.
Managed to keep most ex players on broad as well, to the stage coming 5th in the league blowing a commending position to spurs seems to be some sort of success with fans and media alike.
Impossible to watch more than 45 seconds, too boring.
Thankfully there's health insurance because quite clearly some people are just not made for successful Gofundme videos to finance their heart disease treatment.
The guy is a tragedy as a football coach, I pity Arsenal that they decided to be stuck with this uninspiring nobody. They're never going to get anywhere with him.
C'mon Hansi, I thought you'd cut him some slack, he was 1 point off what we deemed an acceptable points target last season.
What about if we do the same this season? I want to reach 75 points, would that seem reasonable to you?
It’s a beyond stupid argument even if you ignore Fergie’s achievements in Scotland.
Because one great manager’s career in England started with a few bad seasons then every other manager who starts badly can also go on to be great. Let’s just ignore the many many multiples more examples of mediocre managers who started badly and never went on to be great and let’s also ignore the many top managers in leagues all over the world who didn’t go through that same slow start when they got their first big job.
Agreed. It's even more stupid than the Ole comparisons.
Ole’s experience of being promoted above his abilities and getting found out as not good enough to manage a club with United/Arsenal’s aspirations is a hell of a lot more common than any manager experiencing Fergie’s career.
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The fact that Arteta is irritating, deluded and obnoxious doesn't help, to be honest. If he were likeable, he'd probably get less stick.
Must have been what people thought about us with Ole
Never know, might be what we think about Ten Hag soon.
Agreed, i don't expect him to get an easy ride with rival fanbases at all! But if he conducts himself in a certain way he may get less criticism. We'll find out soon.Never know, might be what we think about Ten Hag soon.
I mean most people think their rivals managers have massively annoying traits.
For reception amongst Arsenal fans and a few pundits on that video from yesterday was hugely positive.
But most rival fans laugh at it.
For reception amongst Arsenal fans and a few pundits on that video from yesterday was hugely positive.
But most rival fans laugh at it.
Yep, we will. Ironically, 1 thing he does get criticised for back in Holland it seems is 1 of the things Arteta has been criticised the last few posts, that he's a bit of a personality vacuum. Certainly doesn't strike me as someone delivering rousing speeches. Although if his coaching speaks for itself, no Utd fan will care 1 jot.
I expect this thread to explode when the All or Nothing documentary gets released!
He's a charisma vacuum
Thats the real reason they were bad, because he used to put them to sleep before each game. I guarantee that the games where they performed well were the ones where he didnt talk much pre game.
Haha true on all counts!Yep, we will. Ironically, 1 thing he does get criticised for back in Holland it seems is 1 of the things Arteta has been criticised the last few posts, that he's a bit of a personality vacuum. Certainly doesn't strike me as someone delivering rousing speeches. Although if his coaching speaks for itself, no Utd fan will care 1 jot.
I expect this thread to explode when the All or Nothing documentary gets released!
Anyway it is clean slate this season for Arteta and ETH, and Arteta especially has had a good summer so it will be an interesting season ahead.
That's absolutely brilliant. Would love to play for a coach like this.
Plus, you know atleast one of the things you will do post retirement - write a book, and that book will be a bestseller because it will feature tons of stories of how much players joked about the manager behind his back, of how uninspiring the manager was and how everyone zoned out 10 seconds into the team talk
The YouTube comments are embarrassing. I can't believe how deluded Arsenal fans are thinking he is some kind of Messiah, and the level of expectations lowered are mind boggling. The depths them fans in the comments have sunk to is actually ridiculous.
Comments filled with people saying how remarkable his speech was. It was extremely dull and boring, how can players get motivated listening to that?
The players looked so gormless during that speech. Not sure if that’s due to the speech itself or it’s just their faces.
Sambi's face is hilarious.
He’s doing well. The squad building has been very good, and they’re a well drilled side. The fixture has been kind to them, they’ve got a real chance to keep building momentum and understanding.
They really are Man City lite and the addition of two City players has helped that. I do think what Neville said is right though about a lack of ‘leaders’. They’ve had two games in Palace and today where they’ve had periods where they’ve let the other side into the game. The test will come when they’re losing.
Good start to the season for them
Obviously bigger tests will come but they look annoyingly good so far.
How good does Saliba look! They’ve got a real gem on their hands. Looking their best defender already. He looks like he’s going to be smashing it for a long time. Only 21 years old. Mental.
Whether they get top four or not, their improvement is a good comparison for us.
From 8th in Arteta's first full season to 5th last season to wherever this season. And along the way changing goalkeeper, changing captain and losing their star CF who was acting up.
From 8th in Arteta's first full season to 5th last season to wherever this season. And along the way changing goalkeeper, changing captain and losing their star CF who was acting up.
Another of the many things I have gotten right on here and many others in this forum gas gotten wrong. I always questioned why the likes of Arteta wasn't rated on here before, but I guess it is because not many has the insight I have on this forum.
Arteta is doing an exceptional job and I can list about 100 people on here who taught he wouldn't do well. The way, he turned Arsenal around is exactly how Pochettino turned Spurs into consistent top four contenders. Even though the fixtures has been kind, I still expect them to put in a good fight against tougher opposition. This formula is exactly what we should be doing at United, but I guess we are trying a different path of continuing trying to spend our way into a title challenge.
Arteta is doing an exceptional job and I can list about 100 people on here who taught he wouldn't do well. The way, he turned Arsenal around is exactly how Pochettino turned Spurs into consistent top four contenders. Even though the fixtures has been kind, I still expect them to put in a good fight against tougher opposition. This formula is exactly what we should be doing at United, but I guess we are trying a different path of continuing trying to spend our way into a title challenge.
I have to admit, arsenal started regaining my respect in periods last season and I also came out impressed by Arteta after watching All or nothing: Arsenal.
you can clearly see a resemblance of a structure and strategy from their transfer business as well. unlike our clown club
you can clearly see a resemblance of a structure and strategy from their transfer business as well. unlike our clown club
I can never tell if you’re being sincere or trolling
Edit: Though I kind of agree that Arteta was treated harshly on this place, and a lot of the takes in this thread were bad
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