Mikel Arteta | Lego Pep watch

Zinchenko is the worst left back in the league, and I've seen Telles play a lot! Fecking stupid money for a player that isn't good enough for PL.

Certainly not the worst with the ball, although his defending certainly isn't as good. Obviously there's a City bias to this as well.

 
Those stats flatter him because he plays in a Pep team. Those stats will certainly not transfer to Arsenal in any capacity.

Hence the reason I said there's a City bias. I'm pretty sure if he was the worst left back in the league, that City fans wouldnt be disappointed he's leaving.

Anyway, did you see Nuno Tavares last season? :p
 
Hence the reason I said there's a City bias. I'm pretty sure if he was the worst left back in the league, that City fans wouldnt be disappointed he's leaving.

Anyway, did you see Nuno Tavares last season? :p
They wouldn't transfer to United either so that's not a dig at Arsenal. I'm sure they're happy for the money as they'll now probably go out and spend £100m on a new left back seeing as Mendy is probably going to prison also.

:lol: I didn't, I actually had to google him to see who he was. Was expecting him to be a Norwich player or something.
 
They wouldn't transfer to United either so that's not a dig at Arsenal. I'm sure they're happy for the money as they'll now probably go out and spend £100m on a new left back seeing as Mendy is probably going to prison also.

:lol: I didn't, I actually had to google him to see who he was. Was expecting him to be a Norwich player or something.

He was the player that gave away the penalty against you guys and threatened to do it all game.
 
Zinchenko is the worst left back in the league, and I've seen Telles play a lot! Fecking stupid money for a player that isn't good enough for PL.

Have you watched him at all for Ukraine? He’s their youngest ever captain, for a team that reached the Euro quarter finals with his help of a goal and assist in the last 16, and he’s an all-action creative midfielder.

His technique and vision are not that obvious in this supplementary role at City, but really clear in a team where he’s given a central role. And it’s not like the Ukrainian team are lacking technical midfielders so he stands out. He’s a strong performer in a strong bunch.

Assessing him as a left back is like assessing Fred as a left back. It’s the only place he’d get in that City team too.
 
It's quite comical really.

They've got a home brand Pep managing them and now they are bringing players who aren't quite good enough to hack it at City.
 
TBH neither Arsenal nor Man Utd are world class outfits with elite players anymore; both clubs have tried that (Ozil, Aubameyang, Pogba, Di Maria, Sanchez, Ronaldo etc.) and only run into problems. I'd wager that more Arsenal players would make it into top top squads (Saka, Odegaard, Martinelli) than Man Utd players (Sancho?).

Martinez has had a lot of hype but ultimately only Man Utd and Arsenal were in for him, and it wasn't clear to me if we just wanted him for versatile backup or as a starter. It could be a starting place as much as anything that sent him to Man Utd.
its statements like this that make Arsenal the most delusional fanbase in world football. Make the scousers look sane.
 
its statements like this that make Arsenal the most delusional fanbase in world football. Make the scousers look sane.

Yeah it’s just a daft statement from a team that barely finished above us last season despite us having a caretaker manager and one of our worst seasons. They still didn’t even manage CL.
 
TBH neither Arsenal nor Man Utd are world class outfits with elite players anymore; both clubs have tried that (Ozil, Aubameyang, Pogba, Di Maria, Sanchez, Ronaldo etc.) and only run into problems. I'd wager that more Arsenal players would make it into top top squads (Saka, Odegaard, Martinelli) than Man Utd players (Sancho?).

Martinez has had a lot of hype but ultimately only Man Utd and Arsenal were in for him, and it wasn't clear to me if we just wanted him for versatile backup or as a starter. It could be a starting place as much as anything that sent him to Man Utd.

:lol: Good effort
 
Everton going mental in a pre-season game for no reason :lol:
Where was that energy last season lads ?
 
Yeah it’s just a daft statement from a team that barely finished above us last season despite us having a caretaker manager and one of our worst seasons. They still didn’t even manage CL.
11 points is quite a bit mate. You were closer to Crystal Palace in 12th than us I do believe.
 
Yeah it’s just a daft statement from a team that barely finished above us last season despite us having a caretaker manager and one of our worst seasons. They still didn’t even manage CL.

11 points is not 'barely' fishing above you. Its comprehensively finishing above you.
 
As it stands come matchday 1 we will probably field

Ramsdale
Tomiysau White Gabriel Tierney
Partey Zinchenko
Saka Odegaard Martinelli
Jesus

Were definitely a contender for 3rd and 4th
 
As it stands come matchday 1 we will probably field

Ramsdale
Tomiysau White Gabriel Tierney
Partey Zinchenko
Saka Odegaard Martinelli
Jesus

Were definitely a contender for 3rd and 4th

Unfair when you have deity on your side. That alone should make you guys contenders for the title.
 
Another good workout for the team vs Everton early this morning. Jesus looking sharp again another goal and a bit of a lucky assist, Saliba looking good and untroubled By Calvert-Lewin, & Thomas Partey started.
 
He’s coming in to replace the Stoke level player we have starting for us in Swiss Charlie Adam and he provides quality cover for our starting fullback who is injured half the time. It’s a smart signing.
 
They're getting Saliba back aren't they? Will instantly become one of their best players and it was crazy of them to loan him out and buy Ben White.

I don't think Arsenal will pull up many trees this season though, 5th/6th again for sure.
 
Jesus really looks the part so far during pre season for them. Pisses me off a bit we could have done with that guy when Ronaldo leaves.
 
Zinchenko is a utility player and I am not convinced he's better than either Xhaka or Tierney.
Outside of Pep's system we could see his true level. Ultimately, he improves the squad.
 
TBH neither Arsenal nor Man Utd are world class outfits with elite players anymore; both clubs have tried that (Ozil, Aubameyang, Pogba, Di Maria, Sanchez, Ronaldo etc.) and only run into problems. I'd wager that more Arsenal players would make it into top top squads (Saka, Odegaard, Martinelli) than Man Utd players (Sancho?).

Martinez has had a lot of hype but ultimately only Man Utd and Arsenal were in for him, and it wasn't clear to me if we just wanted him for versatile backup or as a starter. It could be a starting place as much as anything that sent him to Man Utd.

Odegaard is fecking shite :lol:
 
They're getting Saliba back aren't they? Will instantly become one of their best players and it was crazy of them to loan him out and buy Ben White.

I don't think Arsenal will pull up many trees this season though, 5th/6th again for sure.

As I mentioned, played this morning vs Everton, his first appearance since coming back. Wasn't troubled all game, played Calvert-Lewin pretty well.
 
https://news.sky.com/story/amp/prem...s-been-arrested-on-suspicion-of-rape-12651626

Actually can’t believe what I’m reading here? What an awful example to set and shocking by the club.

United handled the Greenwood allegations quickly and decisively. Exactly what I would expect from a big club to which millions see it’s players and staff as role models.

Not sure what this says about ‘The Arsenal’ but it sure isn’t pretty.

Disgusting.
 
its statements like this that make Arsenal the most delusional fanbase in world football. Make the scousers look sane.

Sorry, I must be forgetting all of your superstar signings of the last 5 years that have lived up to the hype? I probably misread that Pogba left on a free after achieving sod all and Ronaldo wants away after one whole season. I don't hear much about Sanchez these days but I presume he's working hard in the engine room for Man Utd. Wikipedia says he scored 5 goals in 45 games for Man Utd (vs 80 in 166 for Arsenal) but that must be an error.

Seriously, which of your players are walking into the City/Liverpool squads? Same as Arsenal, not many.
 
https://news.sky.com/story/amp/prem...s-been-arrested-on-suspicion-of-rape-12651626

Actually can’t believe what I’m reading here? What an awful example to set and shocking by the club.

United handled the Greenwood allegations quickly and decisively. Exactly what I would expect from a big club to which millions see it’s players and staff as role models.

Not sure what this says about ‘The Arsenal’ but it sure isn’t pretty.

Disgusting.

Your post will be removed as we're not allowed to discuss it.
 
Interesting that you want it removed and you don’t have any view on your club?

The post doesn’t name anyone so I wouldn’t worry.

I wrote out a big reply but deleted it because I've had several posts already removed from this thread on the subject.
 
Sorry, I must be forgetting all of your superstar signings of the last 5 years that have lived up to the hype? I probably misread that Pogba left on a free after achieving sod all and Ronaldo wants away after one whole season. I don't hear much about Sanchez these days but I presume he's working hard in the engine room for Man Utd. Wikipedia says he scored 5 goals in 45 games for Man Utd (vs 80 in 166 for Arsenal) but that must be an error.

Seriously, which of your players are walking into the City/Liverpool squads? Same as Arsenal, not many.
You’re confusing players ability with miss management. Not surprised a significant amount of Utd fans do it to our own players too.
Varane, Bruno, Sancho, Maguire, Rashford, Shaw, De Gea, Ronaldo are all better and more talented than most players in that arsenal squad. Under a competent coach (which we now have) many of them will show a much truer level. To Arsenals credit you have a lot of young players but currently that’s all they really are, future hopes. Many of those Utd players have shown a level only matched by those at Chelsea, Liverpool, and City, thus why we finished third, then second and have remained comfortably above arsenal bar our worst ever season.
 
It'll get deleted but the big difference between Greenwood's case and that of the likes of Ronaldo, Hudson Odoi etc is the recordings that were leaked that have pretty damning evidence and already swayed public view.

Nothing to do with public view though. It’s about doing the right thing.

The player should be suspended as they would be in any other workplace.
 
https://news.sky.com/story/amp/prem...s-been-arrested-on-suspicion-of-rape-12651626

Actually can’t believe what I’m reading here? What an awful example to set and shocking by the club.

United handled the Greenwood allegations quickly and decisively. Exactly what I would expect from a big club to which millions see it’s players and staff as role models.

Not sure what this says about ‘The Arsenal’ but it sure isn’t pretty.

Disgusting.

No charges have been laid nor is there tangible evidence. With Greenwoods case he was caught on record.

From what ive read the accusations against Partey will be tossed and he wont even be 'officially' named as the player arrested.
 
Perhaps the club knows more information than you and I to make a more informed decision. Not saying any more on it, deleted my last post as well.

The know he’s being investigated for two very serious allegations and have done absolutely nothing.

Frankly it’s a disgrace.

Anyway I’ll leave you to discuss the 11 point finish ahead of United trophy whilst your club sits in the mud.