Michael Oliver
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As captain you need to set an example.
Do you notice Oliver tried to ignore and walked away? Not the first time this happens with the same guy nor unfamiliar for him to get on people's nerve. If the protest get out of hand, book them. However as a ref you're there to control the situation standing by your decision, not running away after making decision, adding frustration to the side the decision is against. Then save send them off if they dare to go further to be heard.
O Lord that lends me life, Lend me a heart replete with trash!
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O Lord that lends me life, Lend me a heart replete with trash!
"Tears virginal
Shall be to me even as the dew to fire,
And beauty that the tyrant oft reclaims
Shall to my flaming wrath be oil and flax.
Henceforth I will not have to do with pity:
Meet I an infant of the house of Oliver,
Into as many gobbets will I cut it
As wild Medea young Absyrtus did:
In cruelty will I seek out my fame."
- Gianluigi Buffon
Oliver is a bad person and no one can deny it
Take it you didn't watch Young's tackle then?
Fair point
Really can’t understand the discussion about the Madrid one though. 100% a pen all day long and twice on sundays.
He is terrible but did most things correctly.. But a twat anyway ..
Have the people condemning Buffon for the red card actually re watched the incident properly?
The cheat of the Century according to el mundo deportivo
Good. Hope he gets castigated. About time the English refs were brought down to earth.
Im asking myself the same question. If Buffon deserved a red card, then multiple Juventus players deserved atleast a yellow card.
There were multiple options he could have taken that would have been sensible and he took none of them.
It looks like he gave Buffon a red card because he wanted him away from his face, like a scared child. Not because he was applying the laws of the game.
Don't think anyone's condemning Buffon. Just saying he deserved the card.
I just don't get why he didn't send off Benatia for the foul. He'd just recently gotten a yellow for making 2 yellow-worthy offences in 2 seconds and he should have been booked in the first half. This was a clear goalscoring opportunity and he fouls Vasquez with no concern for getting the ball and honestly should have gotten a straight red.
Buffon going apeshit probably took Oliver's focus off of him and spared him the card.
Obvious penalty. Only way it would have been more obvious is if he had shamelessly kicked him.
Buffon going apeshit probably took Oliver's focus off of him and spared him the card.
Obvious penalty. Only way it would have been more obvious is if he had shamelessly kicked him.
Buffon completely lost it.
Not a friend of Oliver, but was completely right both times. Buffon is not allowed to touch you like that.
Not a friend of Oliver, but was completely right both times. Buffon is not allowed to touch you like that.
Said it in the match thread, but I will repeat here. He actually doesn't, because he never deliberately pushes Mike Oliver. He is nudged from behind by Costa and ends up nudging the ref himself.
Watch below around 2:30..
Had to look that one up....
after finding out about how to fix my vaginal tear I eventually found the Shakespeare quote!
Still not sure what it means though....
Maybe a soft penalty but also pretty clear and most likely a goal without the foul. Can't apply other rules just because it is minute 93, nor because the aggression came from Buffon. He had totally lost it. Quite a tragic exit from top class football by a top class goalkeeper, to leave your team in the shit like that.
It was a Clear penalty and Buffon went too far, he deserved the red card, what's next ? punching the referee?
He doesn't have to push or even touch him to get a red. There was plenty of reason without that. I don't think many people will dispute the card, Buffon included, probably.
May be not the right thread but is it true that none of the PL referees have been selected for the WC?
90% of people commenting in here are saying 'Buffon should have touched him like that' or words close to that.
So now you are saying he sent him off because of the way he was speaking to him? Thats a straight red offence now?
Yes, it is true.
Yep. When he wakes up tomorrow, Buffon will realise what a fool he's made of himself.
Yes, it's true.
Good bottle to make two correct decisions in that kind of atmosphere.
Mate, he was screaming in his face and wasn't backing down even though the ref tried to get out of it. The feck was Oliver supposed to do?
I'm not surprised in the slightest. Not just tonight's performance but overall, the performances from the PL referees have been of a poor standard this season.
I think by none of them being selected for the Would Cup, that has already happened.
Bring back Collina, that was a referee you didn't mess with.
There’s not a ref I hate more on this earth than Oliver, but he made the right decision and it took some amount of bottle to make that call. Most refs wouldn’t have done it and to be honest I would have rathered it didn’t come to that as it ruined the game but it was still the right decision.
Of course it is. That has been a rule since the year dot.
Buffon made Keane look like an oap ordering a cream scone ffs.
What kind of atmosphere? Refs love giving any kind of decision to Real Madrid, and even easier if it's at the Bernabeu.
After the game vs Bayern, the penalty and not offside vs PSG, and today this, I don't know at which point they're going to be as hated as Barcelonaby the rest of Europe.
The foul was a soft penalty, but still a penalty. Benatia should have known better. He could have had a case if he didnt put both hands on Vazquez
The buffon red card was deserved but quite harsh given the situation, but on the other hand players surrounding refs and hounding them has been getting out of hand of recent.
The ref should have given Benatia a second yellow = red, and a yellow to buffon. Any other player that was disrespectful should have also been shown a yellow (even if it was a second).
Dont think Oliver communicated well enough and that let the situation escalate.
The buffon red card was deserved but quite harsh given the situation, but on the other hand players surrounding refs and hounding them has been getting out of hand of recent.
The ref should have given Benatia a second yellow = red, and a yellow to buffon. Any other player that was disrespectful should have also been shown a yellow (even if it was a second).
Dont think Oliver communicated well enough and that let the situation escalate.
He looks petrified.
Its a technicality. Englands selection decided to feck off to the Middle East and they're not allowed a replacement.
Are you suggesting Real are more liked than Barca?
I don't think that's anywhere near the case.
I don't think that's anywhere near the case.
I hate this child. Cant forget he sent off Di Maria because he touched his shirt. But Hart head butt him and he do nothing. What a child.
Then he missed a few players getting a red because it wasn't just Buffon screaming at him. Also, shouldnt he have sent Benatia for the pen? He was on a yellow and its a goal scoring chance and all that.
There was like one second of Buffon arriving in the scene and him getting a red. There were Juve players already there saying stuff to him.
I will leave it here, but I dont think he sent him off because of shouting. He sent him off because he thought he got pushed, something which Buffon did not do on purpose.
Was a debatable penalty but one can’t blame Oliver for giving it. *reaches for Cliche Book*...I’ve certainly seen them given.
Sending off Buffon seemed harsh, though. The context of the game and moment meant he was always going to react and he wasn’t alone from Juve in this (somewhat understandably). I’d have given a yellow and let him have a chance to at least save the penalty, but I’m rather romantic about these things...
Sending off Buffon seemed harsh, though. The context of the game and moment meant he was always going to react and he wasn’t alone from Juve in this (somewhat understandably). I’d have given a yellow and let him have a chance to at least save the penalty, but I’m rather romantic about these things...