Michael Oliver
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Pep will now express his fears about a physical match and Oliver will lap it up to show he isn't intimidated by the home crowd.
If Rojo plays he is a cert for a booking, Herrera as well if he's on KDB.
If Rojo plays he is a cert for a booking, Herrera as well if he's on KDB.
How is this even possible (not to be a penalty)? Genuinely wonder what he was actually thinking before making that decisison.
Its quite simply, he is a clown of a ref just like Clattenburg. He goes into a game looking to create a narrative; in that game he didn't want to give a big decision early in the game so he didnt.
Injects balance, wit and humour. Do you have any thoughts on that derby where Oliver was ridiculously favourable toward Utd or are we just wallowing in self-pity?
You need to mention more than that derby... Which one.. Which key decisions..
Highlights videos etc.
Obviously Utd fans will remember the decisions against Utd.
I don't care about suppsoed bias. Oliver is just a terrible referee.
Lets players get away with anything for an hour then boooks people for every minor offence for the last 30 minutes. Causes problems in every single game because it winds up both teams.
Constantly gets big decisions wrong. Visibly influenced easily by fans or players shouting at him a lot.
He's shite
Lets players get away with anything for an hour then boooks people for every minor offence for the last 30 minutes. Causes problems in every single game because it winds up both teams.
Constantly gets big decisions wrong. Visibly influenced easily by fans or players shouting at him a lot.
He's shite
Yeah the city fans on here a good bunch tbh.
This
When they sat down and chose the officials, his name should have been last on the list for this fecking game.
You know what's sad, the 'top' referees are probably the worst referees. Dean, Atkinson, Oliver, Moss are all clowns. The only ref that seems decent is Madley.
Tend to agree, I always forget his name which is usually a sign he’s doing his job as you don’t remember him.
He's just a shit ref. He seems to be deemed the best though. Martin Atkinson could have been given this game and both sets of fans would have found something to complain about ditto Anthony Taylor.
There is no reason to suspect he will help City. I'm sure anyone in the FA thinks that the league will be more exciting this season if United manage to beat City. If City win the derby, the title hunt is practically over. This doesn't mean that he will help United. But he will be very careful not to damage United chances with wrong decisions, especially after the Pogba red card.
Yup. It seems that once a ref in England gets a "name" he goes to shit. I vaguely seem to remember that *even* Clattenburg wasn't all that bad before he got famous.
Great. Inconsistent and easily influenced by the players and crowd. Just what you need for a huge derby.
Still, it could have been Martin Atkinson.
Yeah Clattenburg was actually alright. It all fell apart when Chelsea pulled that stunt on him.
Still, it could have been Martin Atkinson.
Yeah Clattenburg was actually alright. It all fell apart when Chelsea pulled that stunt on him.
Which Derby was that?
I remember one where he didn't send off Smalling when he should have. That one?
The same game Oliver bottled giving us a pen when Demichelis blatantly fouled Rashford.
Are you actually suggesting that a referee might have an agenda going into a game which might end up influencing the result? That’s absolutely shocking and I’m confident that would never ever happen. I think I need to sit down that’s how shocked I am by your suggestion.
PS I hope you’re right!
This is the underlying problem. I hope he’s shite in a way that ends up favouring us though. Can you imagine the Pep meltdown that would follow?!
The Herrera red card, di Maria red card, Smalling red card, failure to send off Hart for the attempted kiss... this guy is an abomination. Hes so stupid, its not even funny. I have always felt that he wants to be in the limelight and I reckon he'll have a huge influence on Sunday.
As if Pogba being suspended wasn't enough. What are they thinking, two negatives make a positive?
He can’t handle the big games.
A pathetic excuse for a man, and dreadful appointment. Likely to impact the game hugely not due to bias but a need to show how he's able to make the calls at old Trafford. Travesty choice
Why is this prick the referee for Sunday's game, I fear we might be talking about him after Sunday's game.
Ref makes big call and costs us our best player for derby - Citeh then get their dream choice of ref appointed for same derby...
Wow.
You can almost understand those that buy into the 'oil money influence' conspiracy theories.
Wow.
You can almost understand those that buy into the 'oil money influence' conspiracy theories.
He's the new Clattenburg. Both Oliver and Clattenburg enjoy the attention they get from being surrounded by a bunch of angry footballers. They love nothing more than being able to march backwards twenty yards, sternly waving their arms out to clear away players, and do a slow reach to their pocket to bring out a card.
I've mentioned it before, but the FA Cup game vs Arsenal the other year was probably peak Oliver, and an almost perfect representation of how he referees a game. He let players on both sides get away with flying into tackles, cynical fouls, diving, repeatedly fouling, and general shithousery for 80 minutes, before flashing a red card to Di Maria for tugging at his shirt in attempt to stamp control of the game. He made it all about him, all in the name of "game management" which is funnily enough the same shite Clattenburg has come out with recently, where he admitted he should have sent three Spurs players off vs Chelsea while Spurs were chasing Leicester, but he wanted to let Spurs implode.
There's a blatant disregard for the laws of the game among some of our supposed top officials, and there seems to be a feeling among some of them that they are there to orchestrate a match, rather than simply officiate it. Clattenburg has even said as much, before he left for Saudi Arabia.
A big problem is that this refereeing style is often praised by the media and supporters alike, because it gives the impression that the referee is trying to let the game flow. If a player is booked for a bookable offence (a dive, a late or rash tackle, a cynical trip) early in a game, then the rest of the players on the pitch will know they won't get away with doing similar. As you've said, failing to do so means the closing third of a game, which can often be a tense and charged affair, ends up as a farce because both teams are wound up. Oliver and his ilk love this though because they get to flash a few cards and have a stern word with a couple of players, and then appear to have "taken control" of the game after earlier attempting to let it flow.
As far as I'm concerned, a referee shouldn't be noticed. Good calls are good calls, and people soon forget about them, and the person who made them. Bad calls are often controversial, but more importantly, memorable. The likes of Webb, Clattenburg, and now Dean and Oliver absolutely adore the limelight, and know that the only way to get it is to make "controversial" decisions.
I've actually come to appreciate Howard Webb as a ref. He was known as someone that was very card happy but that was because he would officiate the events as they were. He wasn't afraid to make a big call early in the game.
Personally, I think all the talk about Webb being a 12th man for Utd played with his head and in his last 2-3 years, he fecked us with wrong decisions and waved off penalty calls because he did not want people to say he favours Utd.
we are screwed
I hate him.
My dad always said the best refs are those you don´t know.
There's some data on this, and there's very little evidence that Webb specifically favoured United. The only area he did was in penalties, but a look at the penalties he gave, his ratio of wrong/right decisions is roughly the same as other refs.
https://5addedminutes.com/2011/02/07/howard-webb-manchester-uniteds-12th-man/
The above is a good read if you're into stats
He’s so shit
Such a twat
Never fails to allow City players get away with murder against us.
Typical performance from him. Shit.
Wonder what our record is with him in charge? It can't be good.
Edit: Premier League: Reffed 24, won 10, drew 7, lost 7. 42 yellows and 2 reds.
Edit: Premier League: Reffed 24, won 10, drew 7, lost 7. 42 yellows and 2 reds.