It doesn't work like that. If one player on your team fouls a player 4 times and the ref gives a final warning, the next tackle has a good chance of being a booking whether it's the same player or not. Otherwise you'd get each player thinking "oh he gives a couple of warnings first and I've only got one foul to my name, so I get a free shot". Herrera didn't really give Oliver a choice, he had to pull out the card. I suspect this won't be a popular opinion on here though.
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It's an odd definition of 'fine'. You can make the case for both being yellows – I'm not convinced the first ones a foul and the second isn't for me – but he's given the second one because, as he almost always does, he's lost control of the game thanks to his bizarre decisions leading up to it.
Terrible referee who seems to dislike us for whatever reason. Herrera shouldn't of been so reckless being on a yellow mind.
He'll have blatantly just told Smalling that the next foul on Hazard is a yellow card, and couldn't back down when it was Herrera who made it.
Shit call, but not biased. He was just trying to save face with the players.
Shit call, but not biased. He was just trying to save face with the players.
You are probably just trying to be controversial, but watch the replays again. The first Herrera can do noting to get out of the way, the second is literally a dive
fecking double chinned bitty drinking little weeble. Wish he'd wobble and fall down
Says it all.
Hope Mourinho tears him a new one and suggests bias - maybe even get a printout like the one Van Gaal had for West Ham. I'm sure we can have a whip around to pay his fine and Faria won't mind lining up on the dugout for the next few matches in the league, which to be fair, looks lost.
Id love to see the stats because I don't think he was repeat fouling. I wasn't sitting here thinking Ander needs to calm down, did he even make 4 fouls?
It's just an example of how daft footballing rules are, where the referee doesn't follow any exact rules - he referees the game how he wants.
If Jones was booked then Herrera wouldn't have been.
If Jones was booked then Herrera wouldn't have been.
Like clockwork
Herrera sticks his leg out and makes a needless challenge for the ball giving the referee a decision to make.
However, when you see the replay there wasn't enough contact for it to be a yellow.
Never forget.
Looks like a lost little boy, and referees like one too.
Rubbish. It was a nothing tackle. Herrera shouldn't be punished for something Jones did
The whole t3am was.
So the next similar foul was likely to be a card.
Sadly it happened to be Herrera.
I bet he's a hopeless human being.
Whether its a second yellow or not can be debated. What cant be debated is, if you want a referee not to give you the benefit of the doubt, Oliver is your man.
lol what a twat. He is a terrible referee.
But you can't say that. You can't give yellows like that. It is utter rubbish
Can the Saudis take him?
He is just so inconsistent.
Should have just booked Jones instead there And also Cahill afterwards.
Herrera got 2 so soft bookings. First one was ludicrous as well.
Should have just booked Jones instead there And also Cahill afterwards.
Herrera got 2 so soft bookings. First one was ludicrous as well.
He got punished for something he did himself, i.e. fouling a player moments after the ref warned the team against persistent fouling.
I can see the argument for the first. I can't really see an argument for the second.
It's a cynical foul, for me, against a player we've been cynically fouling all game.
That is how it works, I remember Pep threatening to sub Messi because the opposition were using this exact tactic.
Using this logic then a rough game would have 3/4 red cards each side if everybody on the team is held accountable for others stupidity
He's a coward.
Never forget.
Never forgot this utter bottle job moment, the fact he then sent Angel di Maria for much less vs Arsenal stil winds me up.
Type of nob that shaved slits in to his eyebrows in school and had a Nike tick in the back of his head.
The 1st one may not have been a foul, the 2nd may not have been a yellow, and somehow they added up to a red.
On the other side, Cahill can push and shove without a hint of a card.
On the other side, Cahill can push and shove without a hint of a card.
This is a man that asked his barber for tramlines. What do you guys expect?
He should be sacked for making up his own rules then.
Is their you cannot foul x player rule anywhere ? What now ? Every foul on hazard is a booking ?
You can, and it happens often. When a team is targeting the best player on the other side and all taking turns to foul him then the ref will take the captain to one side and warn him about it. It's been happening for a long, long time.
Stupid by Herrera but doesn't change the fact that Oliver always seems so fragile. He's like a child.
It was a nothing tackle to a repeat diver. He goes down on a breeze.
Doesn't work like that. Nothing in the rule book about multiple players accumulating a yellow collectively. It's just something people are speculating to make sense of it.
The comments in here must be through rose tinted specs. He just warned Jones for his third offence then Herrera foolishly goes and does that.
the 1st one isn't a booking - the 2nd is a poor challenge from Herrera in the circumstances,
where circumstances = when Oliver is reffing & wanting to wave his willy about
where circumstances = when Oliver is reffing & wanting to wave his willy about
Sure, but not a player that Herrera has been. To be sent off for two fouls, and the second one is as weak as that, is incredibly unfortunate. He's basically been sent off because Oliver bottled booking Jones.
Please post the part of the rules that says warnings can be teamwide
That isn't a rule though. You can't make up stupid rules just because someone's being fouled a bit. Not like Hazard doesn't flop a lot either.
If it's the same player yes and it's dirty yes. But not similar to this. Mistakes are made all the time. It doesn't justify making any. It was a mistake