MonkeysMagic
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My main issue with this t**t is his want to be the centre of attention. Doesn't take a genius to work out he's a crap ref, but it's the self adulation that is vomit inducing.
He didn't throw his 2nd strop after the yellow though. Watch the footage again in this thread.
Your argument falls on the fact that by the time Oliver walks up to him and gives him the second yellow Dalot’s already calmed down, turned away from Oliver and is recovering from the run.
If flailing your arms twice (the last of which happens as you’re being shown a yellow card) is two separate counts of dissent worthy of two yellows then surely every verbal protest that consists of more than one sentence should be punished with two yellows.
This footage?
It's quite clear that he reacts to the throw in and then reacts again to the yellow. Seems that anyone but Utd fans can see that.
He "calms down" and turns away sheepishly after his 2nd strop knowing he could be in trouble. He threw his arms around when he saw he was being booked.
Again, I don't think it merits a sending off and Oliver is being extremely petty.
This footage?
It's quite clear that he reacts to the throw in and then reacts again to the yellow. Seems that anyone but Utd fans can see that.
He "calms down" and turns away sheepishly after his 2nd strop knowing he could be in trouble. He threw his arms around when he saw he was being booked.
Again, I don't think it merits a sending off and Oliver is being extremely petty.
Aye, we were just super fortunate it happened in stoppage time and not with another 15-20 mins left.He's a shit ref. Unfortunately United won't complain but if that happened to Arteta or Klopp team you can bet all the headlines today are around that decision.
This footage?
It's quite clear that he reacts to the throw in and then reacts again to the yellow. Seems that anyone but Utd fans can see that.
He "calms down" and turns away sheepishly after his 2nd strop knowing he could be in trouble. He threw his arms around when he saw he was being booked.
Again, I don't think it merits a sending off and Oliver is being extremely petty.
I actually thought he was “alright” up to that point. Nothing too contentious, albeit one or two things he missed. But that red was absolutely ridiculous. He basically booked Dalot for dissent twice for literally the same offence
He's a shit ref. Unfortunately United won't complain but if that happened to Arteta or Klopp team you can bet all the headlines today are around that decision.
Unless Dalot has said something particularly nasty, it's a ridiculous red.
I agree with both comments.He's a shit ref. Unfortunately United won't complain but if that happened to Arteta or Klopp team you can bet all the headlines today are around that decision.
I agree with both comments.
Some time ago we had a photo of Oliver wearing a Newcastle gear at a pub but i couldn't find it.
Unless Dalot has said something particularly nasty, it's a ridiculous red.
Yep that one!This one?
Yep, you’re absolutely spot on. He just needed to be the center of attention, didn’t he? Couldn’t let the game flow by without an incident. That decision is so blatantly ridiculously it really should have some sort of inquest and have the red rescinded. But no, never in a million years.The thing is, any old school referee will tell you that respect is earned and you can control a match by treating players with a bit of understanding. It’s the 94th minute and he’s just conceded a throw in after competing for the ball (forgetting it came off Salah), of course he’s going to be emotional. Fine you’ve given him a yellow, at least give him the time to get his emotions under control or ask the captain to step in and have a word. What he did isn’t refereeing it’s a power trip.
Yep that one!
That was quick - thanks!
Maybe we should post it every time he's going to ref us as a reminder.
Yep, you’re absolutely spot on. He just needed to be the center of attention, didn’t he? Couldn’t let the game flow by without an incident. That decision is so blatantly ridiculously it really should have some sort of inquest and have the red rescinded. But no, never in a million years.
Yeah might as well have that photo on the match of the day thread OP.
This. The evidence is irrefutable.Some Michael Oliver Stats
United have 18 wins from 45 matches reffed by Oliver.
They have 5 red cards and 92 yellows.
In the same time, hes shown our opponents 1 red card and 62 yellows.
Are we that much dirtier?
By contrast, hes reffed Liverpool 60 times (thats 16 times more) and shown them just 1 red. City 53 times and shown them 1 red.
So we get a red card, once every 9 games with Oliver. For Liverpool its once every 60 and for city its once every 53. For opponents against us, its once every 45 games.
This season, he decided to let Romero's blatant handball go by, and send Dalot off for nothing.
Like Anthony Taylor, there just seems to be a genuine bias at best, and something corrupt at worst.
Or a yellow for the feeble dive in an attempt to get a penaltyInconsistent ref is Mr Oliver.
Why didn't he issue another yellow to 'Donkey' Nunez for his protracted protesting?!
Why didn't he issue a yellow to Salah for his requesting a yellow card for a United player?!
It wasn't a red card, dissent is a yellow card offence.The red card is a disgrace. He should be dropped for that. Let alone the fact that it came about because the officials fecked up the throw in decision in the first place.
And as I said, it's a disgrace.It wasn't a red card, dissent is a yellow card offence.
He received two yellows.
You can appeal a red but not a yellow.
You can only appeal Red cards, not yellows.It's a pity that United rarely contest such decisions - this time I feel we have grounds to do so.
You can only appeal Red cards, not yellows.
No it's not.And as I said, it's a disgrace.
If that would make you feel better then do it, I doubt the club will.We could still complain to the media like Arteta and Klopp would do.
No it's not.
Just because you don't agree with it, doesn't make it wrong.
Just because for reasons known to him he didn't issue other yellows in the game, doesn't make it wrong.
Dalot showed dissent at two different decisions, one moment of dissent was directed directly at the referee, it's a yellow, end of.
You can direct as much vitriol and abuse at Oliver, as you want, but it doesn't change the fact he was right.
No, he wasn't right. It's piss poor refereeing. I have noticed in the past that you go out of your way looking for arguments, so I'm not going to indulge you any longer.No it's not.
Just because you don't agree with it, doesn't make it wrong.
Just because for reasons known to him he didn't issue other yellows in the game, doesn't make it wrong.
Dalot showed dissent at two different decisions, one moment of dissent was directed directly at the referee, it's a yellow, end of.
You can direct as much vitriol and abuse at Oliver, as you want, but it doesn't change the fact he was right.
This one?
No, he wasn't right. It's piss poor refereeing. I have noticed in the past that you go out of your way looking for arguments, so I'm not going to indulge you any longer.
Agree.No, he wasn't right. It's piss poor refereeing. I have noticed in the past that you go out of your way looking for arguments, so I'm not going to indulge you any longer.
Referee's have to declare any allegiance to a particular team.How is he allowed the referee Premier League games after that photo? And now working in Saudi Arabia. He has a clear bias towards Newcastle. He's also a terrible referee in the first place.
Dissent is yellow card offence, he committed it twice, he got sent off for two yellow cards, not dissent.Getting sent off for dissent - what happened to the game I love?
Dissent is yellow card offence, he committed it twice, he got sent off for two yellow cards, not dissent.
No it's not.
Just because you don't agree with it, doesn't make it wrong.
Just because for reasons known to him he didn't issue other yellows in the game, doesn't make it wrong.
Dalot showed dissent at two different decisions, one moment of dissent was directed directly at the referee, it's a yellow, end of.
You can direct as much vitriol and abuse at Oliver, as you want, but it doesn't change the fact he was right.