All red cards should be reviewed by a committee, then apply a suitable and fair ban instead of an automatic ban. If referees like Oliver can't do their job, at least allow an opportunity for corrective action.
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They talked about it on Sky and they didn't reckon it was a sending off.
That’s honestly the most bizarre sending off I’ve ever seen. The initial booking was harsh enough but Dalot’s response to being booked was, if anything, restrained. Certainly compared to the way players usually react when being harshly booked. Nowhere near to the level of dissent shown by Nunez in the same fecking match.
Or Salah who blasted the ball at the advertising boards.
Dalot's initial response was absolutely a booking, they have made a big deal about dissent all season, I assume the second was some something he said after the yellow.
Lewis Dunk was given a straight red for that a few weeks ago, don't think that was Oliver on that occasion. It's happened in the EFL too
Lewis Dunk was given a straight red for that a few weeks ago, don't think that was Oliver on that occasion. It's happened in the EFL too
Yup. And the whole thing compounded by the fact that Dalot’s initial indignation was over an obvious and objectively incorrect decision given against him.
I sure hope they do. But, we all know what’ll happen. Double down on it most likely. But never apply it the same way again.
Why is it wrong? We got ManCity game with imaginary penalty deciding game. We got Garnacho goal take away for imaginary offside and than somehow no referee couldn't spot a foul on Evans despite VAR when Arsenal scored goal. We got Tottenham player playing handball in a important time when game was 0-0. We got a Crystal Palace goal allowed for something similar Evans goal week before was disallowed. There are lot of non-deciding decisions going other way. Not to mention all those free kicks and cards against us.
I have nothing against if it was yellow. Ok, give it. No problem with that. But in same sequence and you can count seconds, he takes out another. For what? For same thing?
That looks a lot worse than it did on the Sky coverage for some reason, (and it looked bad there).
Looking forward to that goblin Gallagher saying it was a clear red tomorrow the absolute slothfaced feck.
Salah waved for a card after the initial coming together, Hojlund was carded for that exact thing last week.
What a prick
don’t hold back!Wonder if he’ll mention Darwin getting a yellow, kicking the ball away and clapping sarcastically whilst he bigs up the decision by Oliver too.
Grand, it was per the rules. To be booked twice in 10 seconds for dissent, seems quite odd.
But if you're going per the rules, Nunez should have been given the same treatment, Gravenberch should have been booked for diving and Tsimikas should had at least 1 yellow for being a ratty cynical cnut.
The problem here isn't the referee applying the rules, it's how the referee chose to apply the rules differently to different teams for the same offences.
Yeah, except when it is Liverpool players in the same match...
Looking forward to the pundits with him taking it as gospel and failing to follow up by showing the Nunez and Salah dissents and asking him why those were not deemed yellows.
Wouldn't surprise me if he was corrupt as a copper and used football as getaway before being found out.
How this disgustingly insecure goblin of a man is making a fortune with what he is doing is beyond me.
Will he feck.
In 10-15 years there will be a huge story about corrupt refs in this country, la liga style.
And nothing will happen.
If you follow the letter of the law, it is probably correct. But if you add to it that it was a ) a reaction to an incorrect throw-in for Liverpool b) he had been booked for the same thing 10 seconds earlier and c) it was in the 93rd minute of a match between United and Liverpool where tension ran high - then it's quite obvious that Oliver completely lost it. If you do something like this, you lack something important you need to be a referee at this level
Wait, what? Surely not. The only footage I saw showed him being booked twice within the space of one or two seconds. He was still in the middle of rant he was booked for when the card came out for a second time.
He didn't open his mouth though. You could see that on the sky highlights. They even said something like "let's see if he said anything?"
The first part would only make sense if referees always applied the laws to the letter. In that case football would be very, vert different.
In the context of how referees manage games, two yellows was utterly baffling. I initially thought Dalot been booked before.
Even a yellow is harsh for dissent here, given the game and circumstances. Two is ludicrous.
When was he booked earlier?
I have a vague memory of Morata getting two yellows for the same thing for Chelsea years ago.
Edit, no it was different. He got a yellow for diving, moaned about it and got another yellow for dissent.
Edit, no it was different. He got a yellow for diving, moaned about it and got another yellow for dissent.
I’ve calmed down about this now and looked at the footage again as if I were an impartial observer…
…yeah, Oliver’s still an inept prick.
…yeah, Oliver’s still an inept prick.
It's our own fault. Until we start going to town on these farcical decisions it's going to remain too easy to give everything against us. Ten Hag needs to make it all about the referees so they feel the same pressure they do from Klopp, and the same they felt from SAF.
What the feck was his agenda with Hannibal as well. He got fouled three times after coming on and got nothing.
The first one was a blatant foul, he was clearly tripped from behind with full contact. So Mr Bean-gormless-face waves play on and Shaw ends up picking up a yellow out of frustration.
Even worse was the fact he let Nuñez off for his 'well done' sarcastic clapping after receiving a yellow. That should have been a second bookable offence.
The Dalot thing was just Oliver trying to look hard on the pitch. Totally selfish, agenda-driven and out of control. How he can be a top ref is staggering.
The first one was a blatant foul, he was clearly tripped from behind with full contact. So Mr Bean-gormless-face waves play on and Shaw ends up picking up a yellow out of frustration.
Even worse was the fact he let Nuñez off for his 'well done' sarcastic clapping after receiving a yellow. That should have been a second bookable offence.
The Dalot thing was just Oliver trying to look hard on the pitch. Totally selfish, agenda-driven and out of control. How he can be a top ref is staggering.
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2 yellow cards in 10 seconds has to be a first, surely?
I was shocked when we went into 90 minutes and Oliver hadn't f'd us yet. I actually thought he'd ref'd the game well up until then...
...should have known better.
...should have known better.
Will preface this by saying I don't think what Dalot did warranted a sending off but do feel like Utd fans are seeing what they want to see here.
Oliver gives the throw to Liverpool. Dalot throws a strop. Oliver books him and Dalot throws another strop. Two separate acts of dissent. Red card.
Now what should have happened is that Oliver should have been a grown up and told Dalot to calm down rather than dishing out the 2nd yellow. Plus, yes, what Nunez did was worse and by the same token should have received at best the same punishment.
Oliver gives the throw to Liverpool. Dalot throws a strop. Oliver books him and Dalot throws another strop. Two separate acts of dissent. Red card.
Now what should have happened is that Oliver should have been a grown up and told Dalot to calm down rather than dishing out the 2nd yellow. Plus, yes, what Nunez did was worse and by the same token should have received at best the same punishment.
Of all the shite decisions this cnut made today it was that dive from Szoboszlai that pissed me off the most. Clear as day in real time, clear as day on replay, it's a dive. The ref obviously thought it was a dive as he didn't give a pen. Did he book the guy for a blatant dive? Did he feck.
He's not allowed to referee Newcastle games but he can directly influence the results of the teams around them. It shouldn't be allowed.
It’s not just United fans, every fan is seeing this nonsense for what it is.
This is simply bad refereeing, it’s so, so poor. The only reason why Nunez should be off is because of this decision, that’s how bad it is.
Why the feck is he even dishing the card out from half a pitch away? He couldn’t fecking wait, that’s why
Not sure how true it is, can’t remember now, but wasn’t he also not allowed to ref matches with teams in a relegation battle with Newcastle pre lottery win?
Yes, all fans agree it's a dumb decision but there's no need for Utd fans to lie about the sequence of events.