You don't need a list of 25. As acnumber9 just said 25 is just a max. If you want no homegrown players you just are limited to 17 registered players then. Players under 21 are not registered, homegrown or not.
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Currently you are required to have 8 homegrown players in your premier league squad, where they come from though, and rightfully, doesn't matter.
Don't forget that Rojo probably won't be available till December and even then, he won't be in top form.
Our CBs are currently Baily, Blind, Smalling (I don't count Jones, because he can't play many games). That's it.
And Smalling is likely to get injured for a while, at some point. Same goes for Baily (who will go missing during the AFCON).
With our current roster, we will almost certainly be seeing an entire backline made up of reserve players, at some point during the season.
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No you aren't. There are a whole host of clubs who don't have 8 homegrown players. The rule is you can't have over 17 non-home grown players over the age of 21. You do not need any home grown players at all.
You need 8 HG in England for a full o21 squad of 25.
u21s don't have to be registered, but can be.
if there are less than 8 HG o21s then you have to forfeit a registration place until it would be possible, e.g. Team X has 17 non-HG players + 7 HG players + 1 o21 spot forfeited. Team X has an o21 squad of 24 excluding however many u21s they like.
-that would mean anyone o21 and not registered couldn't play.
You have lived up to your username, sir. Gracias!
I actually got my math wrong, 17 non-HG + 7 HG + 1 spot removed, but I think you get the idea.
https://www.theguardian.com/football/2015/mar/23/greg-dyke-fa-overseas-player-quotas
Everything I can find suggests you are, it sounds like a problem so far has been successfully enforcing this.
Previous praise rescinded then. You, sir are a charlatan.I actually got my math wrong, 17 non-HG + 7 HG + 1 spot removed, but I think you get the idea.
You only need 8 if you want to register 25 players over the age of 21.
So if you don't have 25 players registered who are over 21 are there zero restrictions concerning homegrown status? If so, it seems a bit all or nothing really when you'd expect it to be more of a tiered system.
Actually the rule is slightly different is it not. Does it not actually state that you can not have more than 17 players who are over 21 who are NOT homegrown. You are limited to a max of 25, but do not have to register 25 if you have fewer than 25 players who are over 21. You are not really forfeiting the spot, just the make up of your squad means you register less than 25. For instance you could have 11 home growns and 11 non-home growns and just register 22 players.
The only time you suffer a punishment of leaving players out is if you found yourself with more than 17 non-home grown player who were over 21. Then you would be force not to register any excess non-home growns and thus they would not be eligible for PL and Cup games.
The rule is actually that you can NOT have more than 17 players who are not-home grown who qualify as over 21's. So technically you could register 17 non-home grown's who are over 21, and if you have no home grown's who are over 21, then you simply register 17 players. You do of course still get use of all your under 21's.
Right you are.
But I guess the new rules they'll try to implement could close a little door, everyone used to break the rule. Changing the age barrier of which they should've completed 3 years in a club is a rule that will aid English players. Say you buy Mbappe at the age of 18 and by the time he turns 21 he's played already 3 years in English club, so that makes him homegrown.
But lowering the age to 18, then 'homegrown' players have to be really homegrown - actually coming out of the academy or signing youngsters who are 15 or younger.
But lowering the age to 18, then 'homegrown' players have to be really homegrown - actually coming out of the academy or signing youngsters who are 15 or younger.
Those rules will never be implemented though. They were suggested 2 years ago and never heard of again.
Well, I am not so sure. I mean it's been proposed already.
I suppose they are trying to make 'homegrown' really homegrown.
Yes, it was proposed 2 years ago and not heard of again. It requires Premier League approval and clubs will never approve it.
Good to know. I must have missed it.
Ah yeah... it says the article is 2 years old
Dead in the water?
Probably yes. Would be surprised if we went for him now
If the 25m valuation is true if they sold him to us (as there is a 25% sell on fee). Then they will be looking in the region of 35m for him from another club
Watch them sell him to another club for far less than the price they wanted us to pay.
I would think so.
If he still comes in, it's curtains for both Jones and Smalling. One will survive as it stands I reckon.
Hopefully Smalling, not a footballing defender and seems to have given up on trying to be the marking/aggressive defender he was actually good at under LVG.
Is Keane an upgrade on what we have? Bailly will be ACN bound for a few months round jan/feb so there could be something in this and Jose was not happy with both Jones and Smalling last season. Almost accused them of faking injury or at least being not committed enough.
Isn't he out of contract next summer? I'd wager he'll have a lot of clubs after him then. Will also give him another year playing in the EPL to improve his game.
Everton have made him priority signing for the summer so we'll soon see
hope so. Crazy valuation so hopefully someone else will bite the bullet. Liverpool (cough).
I'd sell Jones and get this lad
There will be loads of games next season and with Bailly due to go to ANC we can't rely on injury prone defenders
There will be loads of games next season and with Bailly due to go to ANC we can't rely on injury prone defenders
With any luck
I'm not sure I'd agree to come here if I were him. Staying for one more year at Burnley or going to Everton seems a better decision.
We should just agree a deal with him for next summer. Don't need him right now, so there is no need to spend all that money Burnley is asking for.
If Everton get him and he has another great season we can kiss goodbye to this player. The fee could be unheard of with him being english and everything. Koeman knows exactly what players to get, so that alone means enough for me.
Thank God, we dodged this one. As good as Keane is, he certainly is not a big upgrade on smalling. And the fee was ridiculous. He is perfect for Southampton or Everton; mid table material ... Would do great there just like our very own Moyes
He's not going this season though is he? Though he'd be off to afcon next in 2018/19?
Hopefully that's the end of that.
Don't need him IMO. Lindelof, Bailly, Rojo and one of Smalling/Jones are enough. Blind and Tuanzebe can also step in. Keane is not needed in this set up.
I'd still sign him. We are a CB light until Rojo returns.
I still think we should ditch both Smalling and Jones and move on.
I still think we should ditch both Smalling and Jones and move on.
We seem to have a tactic of either approaching or leaking interest in various players of the same position as a negotiating tactic this summer. Keeping the selling club of the player we like on their toes.
Havent done that with Perisic though, Morata and Lindelöf yes
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