Michael Keane| signed to Everton.

Do you want Michael Keane back at United?

  • Yes

    Votes: 259 43.0%

  • No

    Votes: 172 28.6%

  • Undecided

    Votes: 171 28.4%
  • Total voters
    602
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If we're after him, this will be done as soon as the season is over. So, a quick closure to fans of all opinions.
 
limerickcitykid said:
Keane has played 20+ times for the past 5 years not 2.

He also only has about 40 career games less than Jones. 160 appearances over 5 seasons is good time span to judge his injury proneness.
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Jones and Keane appearances in the last 5-6 seasons are comparable to be fair and one of them is labeled perma crock( deservedly so ). Sure Keane developed later and wasn't always starter for Burnley but he'll be on a more intense schedule at United and most likely more injury prone as well.
 
Enigma_87 said:
aye agreed. BTW Barcelona is great, one of my favorite cities to live in by far :)
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Thanks. The city is great, of course it would be better if the people here weren't all Guardiola worshippers and hence City sympathizers. When I first got here 2 years ago City was just a club looked at it with disdain because they just had money and no history. Now with their beloved Pep at the helm suddenly they are the toast of English football.:wenger::wenger::wenger::wenger:
 
Mainoldo said:
Because you still have to invest in the country you play in. Bailly cost around the same money as Keane and is a better player getting Keane's equivalent because he cost £10m less makes savvy business sense but how have you encouraged English youth to excel to the top? We all boast about the United way but then want to moan when there's a hefty price associated with it. This is not me sayin we should get every British player going but our defence on the overall is very good! This will be the second seasons we have the second best defence in he league with this season less reliance on our world class goalkeeper. If we can give Keane a platform why not? The only reason we need an extra defender is because Phil Jones and Smalling are unreliable.
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I think we really need to take a closer look at why we have had good defensive records in the last two seasons. I dear say that it has not exactly been because of the quality of our defenders (I think we have had good to average defenders but not top class ones). In most of the last two seasons, we have played very conservatively as a team. We have sacrificed a lot going forward just to keep slim leads. We have played very compact formations and kept most of our players in our half just to stifle the opposition. And of course, we have had a world class goalkeeper who has made saves after saves to prevent us conceding. In my opinion, these have been more significant reasons for our good defensive records rather than the sheer quality of our defenders. Going forward, if we are to prioritize attack a lot more, we will need defenders who are more comfortable with the ball, can pass their way out of trouble, can retain possession a lot more and can either initiate or even join attacks.
 
King7Eric said:
Thanks. The city is great, of course it would be better if the people here weren't all Guardiola worshippers and hence City sympathizers. When I first got here 2 years ago City was just a club looked at it with disdain because they just had money and no history. Now with their beloved Pep at the helm suddenly they are the toast of English football.:wenger::wenger::wenger::wenger:
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I hear you :) Although it's unlikely that Pep will build a dynasty there so that would change quickly methinks.
 
AP88 said:
United were competing at the top table of European football with Wes Brown and Darren Fletcher in the first 11; it's since English teams STOPPED utilising as many British players that they've stopped getting anywhere near the latter stages in Europe. Chelsea had 4 English starters in their 2012 final team, and that was without the suspended John Terry as well.

The key element of success in football is IDENTITY; tactics, styles, and strategy can vary, but the common element in all great teams, those who perennially win, is identity and that's only generated by a certain number of domestic players.

Look at Real Madrid under Zizou; he's integrated Nacho, Carvajal > Danilo, Isco, Asensio and Lucas feature prominently and generally ahead of James....he's neutralising the perpetual golactico, mercenary mentality and creating an authentic Iberian identity that has seen them look like the most balanced, complete Real Madrid team since the days of Hierro, Raul and Morientes at the turn of the century.

Gary Neville wasn't Maldini, but he gave United more than Maldini would have; he loved the shirt, fought for the fans and for Manchester (plus England when playing in the CL) Ferguson generally avoided mercenaries and instead opted for players who owed their opportunity at the top level to him and United; those players will fight for you.

Yaya Toure, Silva and Aguero are arguably better than anything Fergie ever signed, but in the 7 years since they've arrived, City have won one league title by a clear points margin, and even that came in the post-SAF vacuum where Liverpool almost won it, and a mediocre Chelsea and even Leicester managed to pick one up.

One of them has handed in various transfer requests and booted off over a late birthday cake, and the other two haven't bothered learning the language; they have no real passion for the club or the City, and that sums up why they've failed despite having the best collection of (mercenary) players in the league for the past 7 years.

Kane isn't good enough? Ok, you're a lost cause. Go and masturbate watching Dortmund players on YouTube.
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Utter bollocks. You didn't even touch upon how Keane isn't the bang average player he is.
 
BBC reporter we're interested in signing him.


I believe this guy is one of the credible few.
 
Good job. We're not going to get a much better defender for £25 million these days.
 
GM K said:
I think we really need to take a closer look at why we have had good defensive records in the last two seasons. I dear say that it has not exactly been because of the quality of our defenders (I think we have had good to average defenders but not top class ones). In most of the last two seasons, we have played very conservatively as a team. We have sacrificed a lot going forward just to keep slim leads. We have played very compact formations and kept most of our players in our half just to stifle the opposition. And of course, we have had a world class goalkeeper who has made saves after saves to prevent us conceding. In my opinion, these have been more significant reasons for our good defensive records rather than the sheer quality of our defenders. Going forward, if we are to prioritize attack a lot more, we will need defenders who are more comfortable with the ball, can pass their way out of trouble, can retain possession a lot more and can either initiate or even join attacks.
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Agree with you, especially with the keeper. But to be honest to win anything you need a keeper that will save you 12 points a season. What I don't agree with though is that the sacrifice of tactics is because of the rubbish defence it's quite the opposite. The attack isn't good enough to accommodate what we have at the back. The only part of he defence that has caused the attack to suffer is the lack of offensive skill at LB, I feel this is also why Martial has suffered.
 
For £25m I'd be happy to sign him. Solid English defender who isn't always injured. With him, plus Tuanzebe and Mensah probably getting more first team appearances next season, we'd be able to get rid of both Jones and Smalling without worrying about our home grown quota. Plus the pair of them might fund the signing of Keane.
 
Never thought we should have sold him so early - not saying I thought he was going to be great but he had potential and could always see him competing with Jones/Smalling/Blind.

Will we learn to add buy back clauses :lol:

Simon Stone is as close to reliable as possible in England as far as I'm aware.
 
Wonder if he's the only CB Jose will bring in. Signing Keane would make a lot of sense if Mourinho wants to sell Jones and Smalling
 
Don't really want him and doubt the club would bother if he wasn't from the academy, very ordinary player, but as long as he's not the only CB addition and he just replaces one of the crocks I don't care.
 
Devil may care said:
Don't really want him and doubt the club would bother if he wasn't from the academy, very ordinary player, but as long as he's not the only CB addition and he just replaces one of the crocks I don't care.
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Why would Jose give a toss that he's from our academy?
 
Good signing if only for the home grown aspect. Makes me think there will be more signings from abroad while we'll get rid of a few from our English contingent
 
25M is a lot. He's a very average player but again goes to show Woodward's incompetence at not even inserting a buy back clause.
 
Devil may care said:
Don't really want him and doubt the club would bother if he wasn't from the academy, very ordinary player, but as long as he's not the only CB addition and he just replaces one of the crocks I don't care.
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Don't agree with that. There is a distinct lack of quality centre backs around. He's a centre back who is improving all the time so it makes sense to be in for him. Fact he's an academy product is a secondary factor.

To be clear, it was purely down to LVG him leaving in the first place. It wasn't a "club" decision.
 
Wednesday at Stoke said:
25M is a lot. He's a very average player but again goes to show Woodward's incompetence at not even inserting a buy back clause.
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Some of you play too much FM. Clubs aren't going to let us put buy back clauses in deals so we can get them back for peanuts if they become good.
 
Devil may care said:
Don't really want him and doubt the club would bother if he wasn't from the academy, very ordinary player, but as long as he's not the only CB addition and he just replaces one of the crocks I don't care.
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Doubt that's the reason. To balance the homegrown quota, probably considering Keane's one of best young English CBs around. Plus I felt Jose thinks Bailly could do with someone with good aerial ability and isn't a liability on the ball, which is what you could describe about Keane.
 
Wednesday at Stoke said:
25M is a lot. He's a very average player but again goes to show Woodward's incompetence at not even inserting a buy back clause.
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We paid more than this for Bailly who nothing knew about him at all before joining us.

25-30m is a fine price for a defender. Very cheap if I can say it.
 
With Jones, Smalling, Carrick, Rooney and Young all possibly leaving this summer we will be short on home grown players, so in that aspect signing Keane would make a lot of sense.
 
I've always really liked him. Good defender, nice ball player and loads of potential. We should never have let him go. Big step up, though. You'd like to think Mourinho would knock a few of his rough edges off sharp-ish.
 
£25m for a player with only 1 year left on his contract that we sold for £2m only a few years ago?
Who isn't even that great?
All seems a bit weird.
 
People here are extremely pessimistic about our signings next season.

That means they'll definitely succeed.
 
We've started doing the Barca/Real thing where they sell their youth products on cheap and then buy them back for ten times the price a few years later if they're any good. Which is not the ideal way to introduce academy players to your squad, but whatever, it is what it is.
 
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