£18 million would be a bargain these days. If Keane rejoins Id fully expect one of Jones/Smalling to go (preferably Jones) and if having Keane in the squad means that we don't suffer the usual defensive crisis during the season because our back ups are actually not permanently injured like Jones then Im all for it.
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£18 million would be a bargain these days. If Keane rejoins Id fully expect one of Jones/Smalling to go (preferably Jones) and if having Keane in the squad means that we don't suffer the usual defensive crisis during the season because our back ups are actually not permanently injured like Jones then Im all for it.
What? Michael Carrick also chased down Aguero in one game this season, anomalies happen mate, it's not confusing, the attacker usually just doesn't get into their running stride properly and thus the much slower player manages to catch them.
Decent player but we have too many of those. We need top top quality, not mere squad options.
I am not that Keane.
On his hols with Harrop at the minute. Clearly happening.
Not normally quick to criticise but I must say this rumour has me scratching my head. Is he really an improvement on anything we have? Not in my opinion.
Bailly I justs nailed. Rojo is first choice when he comes back. Blind is no slouch (sic) there. Neither are Smalling or Jones when they're fit. Plus we've got excellent youth prospects here too.
Needs to be a world beater here to rock my world.
Bailly I justs nailed. Rojo is first choice when he comes back. Blind is no slouch (sic) there. Neither are Smalling or Jones when they're fit. Plus we've got excellent youth prospects here too.
Needs to be a world beater here to rock my world.
I'm going to trust Mourinho on this one as his first transfer window was very good and his record with defenders has been strong at his previous clubs.
I was never a fan of selling Keane, felt he had something to give....Especially when LVG at the time was playing 3 CBs. Either way, he's impressed at Burnley and has shown good progress and think he has earned the chance to play for us.
Remember Mourinho saying that under previous Managers there was players he wouldn't have sold...Everybody at the time thought he meant the bigger stars like Welbeck, Nani, Hernandez...Wouldn't surprise me if he was referring to Keane.
Shame Carrick is staying on, we could give him 16.
I was never a fan of selling Keane, felt he had something to give....Especially when LVG at the time was playing 3 CBs. Either way, he's impressed at Burnley and has shown good progress and think he has earned the chance to play for us.
Remember Mourinho saying that under previous Managers there was players he wouldn't have sold...Everybody at the time thought he meant the bigger stars like Welbeck, Nani, Hernandez...Wouldn't surprise me if he was referring to Keane.
Shame Carrick is staying on, we could give him 16.
Too much English, too much academy and and too much averageness for some here.
I trust Jose, I'm not sure about this potential signing though. You have to ask yourself, is he an upgrade on what we have? Is he capable of stepping up to Cl level? I ain't convinced.
I think Smalling, Jones would look immense at a relegation side like Burnley too. They are a compact side that are setup to defend. Jose has been usually brilliant when identifying defenders. I just think we should aim higher.
I think Smalling, Jones would look immense at a relegation side like Burnley too. They are a compact side that are setup to defend. Jose has been usually brilliant when identifying defenders. I just think we should aim higher.
If we're replacing Smalling or Jones with Keane then I'd be ok with that especially as we need investment more so elsewhere in the team.
If it is the sole reason to sign somebody than it is.
Shouldn't matter if a player is english or not, what should matter is his football quality.
I'am 100% convinced if this was not an ex academy player United wouldn't even consider getting him.
I'd agree if Liverpool or Chelsea weren't also linked with him.
Good signing, if he was called Keanedinho and wast playing for Lille people would be happy about it, like they were with the Lindelof rumours. He's a direct upgrade on Smalling(this season) and Jones.
Probably fake rumours spread by Burnley to crank up the price
Sure.
No he isnt. If he was called keadinho we wouldnt be interested and would be all over some other overhyped english player.
Keane isn't hyped by anyone other than the English media. I'm talking about fan perceptions. Go pay a visit to the Lindelof thread and compare it to this one.
Like it doesnt happen ? Shouldnt even be spread by Burnley, these clickbait journalists will make up any sort of fake news to get more attention.
Lindelof is a much better player than Keane. Not world class by any means but unlike Keane he would actually improve our defence.
Burnley fans all seem to think he's class to a man, Mou knows his defenders and I liked the look of him in our youth. Don't really care what some football einsteins on the Caf think if we do bring him back.
Bailly and Keane would be a great pairing IMO. And he's not a topped out player, still improving.
I disagree, he's very error prone in the Portuguese league and weak in the air so would be a poor partner for Bailly. I reckon he would look worse than Stones in the Prem. Keane has many of the qualities that Bailly lacks, they could form a solid partnership in the future.
My only concern with this type of signing is that there are guys like De Ligt who is only 17 but would probably improve our defence next season. I don't see Keane getting much better than he is.
This is such a tedious argument. This is a huge forum, there are always going to be differing opinions on every single player. And it's not like Keane is universally rated as a world class defender, there's plenty of room for debate on this potential signing.
I'm sure West Brom fans have similarly positive views on Jonny Evans; he wasn't good enough for us mind and neither is Michael Keane.
Good.. CBs done.. Now lets focus on our wide players and strikers...
You can forget about us signing 17 y/o defenders for the first team while Mourinho is our manager. Best to just let go of the notion and spare yourself the disappointment.
Why is he lumped into this? His fitness has been fine but for a freak injury plus he is miles ahead of the other 2 in ability.
So what's the price being touted? £18m (including add ons) isn't too bad for a guy on verge of national team.
Johnny Evans always had talent though, hence why he started the vast majority of games alongside 34-35 year old Rio in our last title win and did well, the issues with him were not his talent but the fact he was a huge confidence player and had massive injury problems.
I like the way people are pretending like they've never heard of him like he is some continental player. We need a world class CB!
Does it really need much improving? Way I see it the problem there is the injury prone players leaving us light on numbers at times. Signing a good, reliable, young CB with no injury history and PL experience should help with that. Not every signing has to be world class.
Shouldn't cost the earth either. Hasn't he only got one year left on his deal?
Luckily for Michael Keane, the England, and now seemingly United, managers rate him.
Would you rather spend circa £40m on a defender from another league who looks monsterous on YouTube, like City did with Mangala and Otamendi, without really solving the problem?
Nobody knows how good he really is until he's exposed to the top level on a weekly basis, but his improvement in the past few seasons is impressive; factor in Mourinho, plus his obvious willingness to develop himself, and everything suggests he can grow into a very good player for the club.
Would you rather spend circa £40m on a defender from another league who looks monsterous on YouTube, like City did with Mangala and Otamendi, without really solving the problem?
Nobody knows how good he really is until he's exposed to the top level on a weekly basis, but his improvement in the past few seasons is impressive; factor in Mourinho, plus his obvious willingness to develop himself, and everything suggests he can grow into a very good player for the club.
Please add one feck up per game due a lapse in concentration.
And regularly got bullied by physical strikers, even if their name was Carlton Cole.
Miles ahead of ability
Rojo was garbage for 2 seasons and has been lucky not to be sent of multiple times this season for being reckless. Actually before this season Smalling had a better injury record than Rojo since Rojo joined. In fact Smalling probably still has a better record.
Agreed. Also a defensive midfielder to sit in front of the back 4 will help.
Problem is there ain't many world class CB available. CB I see mentioned a lot round here is Varane, Real ain't selling, can forget about the Spurs CBs and Juve aren't selling Bonucci. Not a long list. Lindelof is prone to big mistakes in the Portuguese league is he really an improvement over Keane who is PL proven after a great season for Burnley. He knows United, young enough to improve and Jose has a good track record with defenders. Look at what City did with Mangala and Otamendi over 75 million spent, picking a good CB for PL is tough so I don't have a problem with us signing a good young English proven PL defender.
Ferguson knew that. Seemingly Mourinho knows that. Sadly fanboys don't seem to grasp it.
Of United's 'world class' signings, in the Premier League era, how many have succeeded? Veron didn't, ADM and Falcao didn't, Pogba likely will but hasn't performed like you'd expect him to initially. Mata can't establish a starting berth and Mkhi has blown more cold than hot. Van Der Sar's stock had fallen by the time he arrived, Van Persie's success was isolated to one season. Berbatov never really fit in.....id say only Tevez arrived and left a great player.
United's ethos, much like Juve's and Bayern's, was to buy up the best domestic talent from within the league, players on the cusp of being considered top-level, and cultivating their development towards that status. Keane fits that criteria to a T, as does Dier. Both would be great additions and have are of the correct age to be part of a dynasty.
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