Who really knows how talented he was? Most of us only saw Youtube highlights and obviously, he never really made it to the big stage
Michael Keane| signed to Everton.
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A lot of people have mutv. It wasn't hard to witness to be honest.. the guy had that natural Joe Cole type of talent. I suspect he was that kid in the play ground that could really play 2 on 9. The other player just being his goal keeper.
Who on earth is this kid - did you go to school with Messi?
In an interview Henry said in training Messi pretty much does that.
Hope he doesn't feel the need to prove his worth and ability this weekend - but knowing how our season went a 10/10 performance is nailed on. 
Under Mourinho this season, the club have started to do that.
Goss and Depay the most recent examples.It was during LVG's first season where Keane was sold cheaply, because he's not good enough in ball-playing & had a bad pre-season or something.
Just like Pogba coming back on the high after his education at Juventus, I don't mind Keane coming back for 25-30M. It's kinda like a small gift to Burnley (considering our financial muscle) for their effort in training him up to this unexpected level of improvement. Credits should also be given to Michael too.
Personally, because he's a youth product, english player, right United mentality, improved so much after he left at Burnley still not in his prime, will improve for sure under Jose, provened can play well in the League, good defending and scoring in set-piece qualities, more reliable in availability than Smalling and Jones, and I assumed good chemistry with Lingard and Pogba.
Although, after this, since Mourinho is in charge, I highly doubt we would be held to ransom anymore - forced to pay over inflated transfer price for players. Instead we would pay the price in coherent with their capabilities. Unless the player is very special.
That aside, I trust Mourinho this Summer, whether he decides to bring back Keane or not. Hopefully yes.
Under Mourinho this season, the club have started to do that.
Yeah true i heard about the Depay one, good we should put them in all young players contracts we sell. Real do it and buy back players all the time, basically just like loaning a player out but not having to pay their wages.
Nutmegged by Rooney.
If we are serious about winning at the highest level, we should be looking at better players than Keane.
I'd be perfectly okay with him replacing Phil Jones.
Just don't get the hype around him. I'm not a big fan of Smalling or Jones but Keane is no better than either. He's one player I really hope we steer clear of.
Its a bit strange isn't it. A bit like a couple of years ago when people wanted to buy back Shawcross, as if having once been a youth player is somehow a sufficient reason to buy back decent but not great players.
Its a bit strange isn't it. A bit like a couple of years ago when people wanted to buy back Shawcross, as if having once been a youth player is somehow a sufficient reason to buy back decent but not great players.
I don't think it's a good idea to go buying English players at the moment full stop really. Being linked with him and Dier is underwhelming. Both are bang average.
Very average player, he has't changed much from when we sold him. He is decent and at a inferior side like Burnley looks better than the rest of the pack but doesn't have what it takes to be a top player at a top club.
If there was no point in keeping him, I don't see why there would be a point in brining him back. He is just the same average player he used to be just at Burnley he gets playing time. 30m would be robbery and we just don't need him.
Steer clear from him please
If there was no point in keeping him, I don't see why there would be a point in brining him back. He is just the same average player he used to be just at Burnley he gets playing time. 30m would be robbery and we just don't need him.
Steer clear from him please
There is an home grown quota of 8 players that needs to be met, and currently we only have Rashford, Lingard and Pogba for club with Shaw for FA. That leaves us 4 slots short. If you add a 3rd keeper from the academy, leaves 3 to be met.
Given that Young, Rooney, and Carrick are past it, with Smalling, and Jones always injured, how do we strengthen the squad while meeting the quota. There are very few FA trained players that are available for sale and better than what we have in our area of needs, and, less than a handful that are starter material. Tottenham is not going to sell us Kane or Alli, and, the likes of Toby or Kante are not homegrown.
Keane is a good candidate for this. Even if he is not as good, at least he is injured less often than Jones and Smalling. (Jones has missed 92 days and Smalling has missed 85 days this season alone ). Yet, I think he is better than both Smalling and Jones. Some thought less of Rojo, but one can see how well he has played under Mou. Keane should take Jones spot in the rotation while we look for an Elite defender to replace Smalling.
Given that Young, Rooney, and Carrick are past it, with Smalling, and Jones always injured, how do we strengthen the squad while meeting the quota. There are very few FA trained players that are available for sale and better than what we have in our area of needs, and, less than a handful that are starter material. Tottenham is not going to sell us Kane or Alli, and, the likes of Toby or Kante are not homegrown.
Keane is a good candidate for this. Even if he is not as good, at least he is injured less often than Jones and Smalling. (Jones has missed 92 days and Smalling has missed 85 days this season alone ). Yet, I think he is better than both Smalling and Jones. Some thought less of Rojo, but one can see how well he has played under Mou. Keane should take Jones spot in the rotation while we look for an Elite defender to replace Smalling.
The link exists only because we once sold him. Had be been on Arsenal's books and released from there to Burnley and performed exactly the same as he had this season there wouldn't be a single mention of his name on the whole board let alone a 12 page thread speculating about a transfer.
It's as if some think one of the things Mourinho is looking for in a defender is someone who can drive to the training ground on day one without a SatNav. On the off chance it's not I'd say the likelihood we'll end up buying him back is pretty damn slim.
It's as if some think one of the things Mourinho is looking for in a defender is someone who can drive to the training ground on day one without a SatNav. On the off chance it's not I'd say the likelihood we'll end up buying him back is pretty damn slim.
I think Pereira would be in Mourinho's plan next season so another homegrown slot fill. If buying Keane just for the sake of replacing Jones which means he wouldn't have much gametime neither, then should as well keep Jones played Tuazenbe here & there and use the transfer fee and get an outright good CB. We actually don't need a back up CB for like handful of games paying anywhere near 20mil or even more. If we're desperate to meet quota, we can register Will Keane in Rooney place. He may still be workable for handful games per season as Rooney is now while we don't have to save the money when we can move for big target.
The HG Quota rule can be circumvented by having a smaller squad.
P.S: Also, Rashford doesn't count as HG yet, he is below 21.
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I honestly doubt there's anything in the links to us. His agent is obviously hard at work touting him around to all the top clubs. I can see him more at a club like Everton than one of the top 4/5. I have seen a fair bit of him this season and to say I've been underwhelmed is an understatement. Don't get me wrong, he's a decent player but with all the hype around him, when I've seen him it hasn't been justified.
I quite like him but I think a move for him would be more apt if Jose is having a revamp in the position, with a few ins and outs - I'd be worried if he were to be the only signing at the back though.
Also, how does he manage to look like English actor Will Poulter and Olympic gold medalist Luke Campbell, simultaneously? Extraordinary!
Also, how does he manage to look like English actor Will Poulter and Olympic gold medalist Luke Campbell, simultaneously? Extraordinary!
Keane might not be an elite defender. You can't really have 4 world class players for the same position. I personally don't think it's a bad idea if Keane can be one of 4 centre-backs needed at a club of United's stature. He would be a very good acquisition to play around 25-30 games a season. He is a homegrown United graduate and knows the premiership. He will only get better with time and learning of quality players.
The risk of purchasing him would be minimal.
The risk of purchasing him would be minimal.
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Too many people playing Football Manager thinking you can always buy world class for a squad.
At the end of the day, Rojo is a pretty average footballer yet under Mourinho he has looked excellent simply because he's demonstrated the right mentality and attitude towards defending. He knows his limits and operates within that - its effective. All the reports you read of Keane tell you he works extremely hard and has the right ethic, he's a Utd fan, he's had an excellent season and looked comfortable in a back 4 and 3 therefore versatile....and Utd need centre backs. This is a no brainer.
At the end of the day, Rojo is a pretty average footballer yet under Mourinho he has looked excellent simply because he's demonstrated the right mentality and attitude towards defending. He knows his limits and operates within that - its effective. All the reports you read of Keane tell you he works extremely hard and has the right ethic, he's a Utd fan, he's had an excellent season and looked comfortable in a back 4 and 3 therefore versatile....and Utd need centre backs. This is a no brainer.
I agree. The current market prices being what they are, a dependable young HG CB with PL experience for 20 mil is not a bad deal; especially because next year I presume we'll again end up playing 60 odd games (fingers crossed). The problem with making a big signing is that there'll be less competition for the starting place; With Bailly, Rojo, Smalling, Jones, Blind (one will possibly depart from this list) and Keane/ that Lindeloff bloke, I'd say the defence "problem" will be a good one to have.
I think Rojo was wasted at LB, I mean he can do it when called but going forward he has always been a bit erratic. Why buy a CB and play him LB and instead play a DM (Blind) as CB ? He isn't world class but before LVG he was being talked about a lot even before the WC; He's pretty good and has been brilliant for us.
I thought as long as they spent the required time needed in England, they'll count as HG even if they haven't hit 21.
Would be stupid if it wasn't that way.
He shouldn't have been sold in the first place, more than being desperate to buy him back. Dumb move from LVG.
This is a Football Manager concern if I ever saw one.
He'd make a great partner for Bailly and would have all the motivation, coming back, to do well. I think it'd be a good move.
You do realise that there's a quota that needs to be met for the squad submitted to the Premier League right?
It's a huge reason why the likes of Stones have gone for huge amount despite being nowhere near ready to be playing for the top teams.
For players above 21, there is a quota but U-21 players can be from anywhere - there are just not considered for the HG Quota rule.
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Spot on.
Clearly improved since leaving and a good replacement for Jones or Smalling as I don't rate either. I think he can play well if we needed to go with 3 at the back at anytime. He's however not the answer as we need leadership and experience like a John Terry type as Bailly is superb but needs guidance as he can be rash at times.
nah he wouldnt have improved if he sat on the bench here. he wanted to move and went on loan to burnley. he thought he would be better helped if he made a permanent move there as he wasnt getting chances there early on and only an injury gave him the chances. We probably let him go for a small fee so that he can goto burnley like he wants.
Agree with this but depends on the price involved and his own ambitions. I can't see him becoming more than a useful squad player - if he is content with that great, but if he wants to be a regular for England and make a proper name for himself, he might be better off going to a Liverpool where he might be a regular first XI player.
If we can get him for £10-15m, he'd be a solid addition to the squad.
We don't even have a single world class CB, so an overload of quality is the last thing we need to worry about. In my opinion if we're buying a CB, it's best to buy a top class CB and relegate one of the current starters to the bench (i.e. fight for a starting spot).
We'd get him for 20m, the sum which can be easily gained by selling either one of Smalling or Jones.
I'd push for less than £20m. I mean didn't we get Bailly for around 30?
Would rather have Harry Maguire, but then again I'd prefer neither.
We also get 25% of the fee isn't it as per clause.
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