Goals are the only thing that wins games
Messi v Ronaldo | Contains double your daily salt allowance
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They aren't the only thing that sell tickets or decide fan opinion .
Take a look at the latest poll about Messi Ronaldo , even there Messi is way out in front . He will be even more so by the time they both retire .
I think Ronaldo will be the last player in our lifetime to average more than a goal a game . Thats phenomenal, it really is . He can be proud of that forever.
I always like to believe that the players who have played against them both offer the most sound opinion , and the vast majority pick Messi .
Can you show me proof?
I hope you don't mean the poll here...
Anyway I feel confident that Messi is dropping quicker than Ronaldo despite his younger age. We'll see what happens in the next few seasons
There's this video of Blatter mocking Ronaldo. I'll try to find it after my holiday.
Unless you have a video of him saying he favours Messi don't bother .
And yes the poll on here , over 1000 people voted , most still say Messi is better .
If you rely on Internet polls, Henry is probably the best player ever ever
Also if Blatter dislikes Ronaldo, clearly he favours Messi
You're getting worse . And by worse I mean even more apparent that you're the biggest wum on this site .
I was under the impression that captains , managers and the press voted for the ballon d'or... Blatter paid them all off did he ? Do me a favour .
I am definitely not a fan boy and I consider Messi clearly the better player.
I'll just say it again. Messi is not less of a goalscorer than Ronaldo when he focuses on it. Both the records for most goals in a calendar year (91 or 93) AND season (73!) are in Messi's hands. Messi's finishing is just as good as Ronaldo's.
That's like saying Ronaldo is still an electrifying dribbler. He's not displayed it in years but he did it to a high standard when he did.
41 goals is still pretty good , whereas Ronaldos dribbling has almost disappeared completely in terms of effectiveness
Ronaldo can't dribble like his Utd days anymore. Messi just focuses less on goalscoring and more on playmaking since the additions of Neymar and Suarez.
Same logic can be applied that Ronaldo just focusses more on goal scoaring and leaves the playmaking to Modric.
But Ronaldo can't playmake the same way Messi can. On the other hand Messi can score as good as Ronaldo can, he just focuses less on it. My point is:
- Messi's goalscoring ability is as good as Ronaldo's.
- Messi's playmaking ability is superior to Ronaldo's.
Only if an individual is dim enough to make decisions on who is better between two players based on the actions over 90 minutes of 11 entirely different individuals altogether.
La Liga, the best league on the planet, doesn't get a mention as a big trophy because Ronaldo's won just one of them.Only if an individual is dim enough to make decisions on who is better between two players based on the actions over 90 minutes of 11 entirely different individuals altogether.
Go and get laid son, it will do you the world of good.
It probably won't given it happens fairly regularly anyway, unlike you making a decent post which hasn't happened in years.
Go and get laid son, it will do you the world of good.
Only an idiot would think that this thread can only get bumped by people proclaiming Ronaldo to be better now that Portugal have won the EC. The thread can be bumped, and the topic discussed, without having to resort to polarised viewpoints. Plenty of people think Messi is still better but think the contest is a bit closer now that Ronaldo has managed to win an international trophy.
Only if an individual is dim enough to make decisions on who is better between two players based on the actions over 90 minutes of 11 entirely different individuals altogether.
It's funny how they always omit La Liga in their comparisons , 1 league win in 8 years is pathetic. Especially since they are claiming Ronaldo = trophies.
It probably won't given it happens fairly regularly anyway, unlike you making a decent post which hasn't happened in years.
'Fairly regularly'? Who the feck are you kidding?
Erm noone? Are you actually this insecure "son"? Or are you unaware that grown ups post here?
'Fairly regularly'? Who the feck are you kidding?
I don't actually agree with a pure focus on trophies alone. But if that's the one dimensional route one wants to go down at least get the one dimension your brain is tasked with, right. Simple tasks are hard for some, though.
Only if an individual is dim enough to make decisions on who is better between two players based on the actions over 90 minutes of 11 entirely different individuals altogether.
Obviously, winning the CL and the Euros is on another level than winning a domestic league, even if it is the best. It is clear that I mean the biggest tropheys. A CL trophey is always bigger than a domestic one. Many teams have won consecutive domestic titles, none has done it in the CL. So, in terms of the biggest tropheys it is 3:2.
Yes, 40 year old virgins such as yourself.
Messi has won 4 champions leagues ??
In that case, Ancelotti 3 SAF 2? You can see it how you want. That's your prerogative but I don't see the point in leaving out the best league competition in the game, when comparing trophies. The Euros and the Copas this year, if anything, were a show of averageness in comparison a stage like la liga.
I personally put more value in domestic titles. The best team does not always win the CL, Euros or any type of cup competition. The best team almost always wins the league title. You can sort of fluke a cup title you can not do that with a league title.
If that thought is going to help you deal with my consistently making you look like a fool over here then help yourself.
The fact that you still think everyone needs to "go get laid" shows that you're probably a teen going through puberty who doesn't get that grown ups actually settle down with partners
Dont worry, one day you'll get there. Or not.Honestly, you could probably take Messi's play that year and compare it to any 30-40 games Ronaldo has ever played and Messi still comes out on top.
If that thought is going to help you deal with my consistently making you look like a fool over here then help yourself.
The fact that you still think everyone needs to "go get laid" shows that you're probably a teen going through puberty who doesn't get that grown ups actually settle down with partners
How defensive you're being clearly indicates that you are indeed a virgin, unlucky son.
How the feck did people like you ever make it out the newbies with comments like this ?
Although I don't think that counting trophies is a very good way to evaluate an individual player, we should at least get the facts straight. Messi has won 4 CL titles so far: 2009, 2011, 2015 and as a squad player in 2006.
Can happen, no problem, but the numbers weren't correct.
Well, Ancelotti has done better than SAF in terms of CL football. That much is obvious.
But I didn't say that we should judge Ronaldo and Messi solely on the biggest tropheys, did I? The same with the managers. I pointed out that it is a point if favour of Ronaldo that he won more big tropheys than Messi while playing with generally lesser players. There are many points in favour of Ronaldo and many points in favour of Messi and the latter outweigh the former but the difference is not as dramatic as some Messi fans want us to believe, IMO.
Agree that luck may play a bigger role in one CL campaign than in one domestic season. But Ronaldo's Real have reached the CL semis 6-7 seasons in a row. Obviously, they do quite well there.
You are right, of course. But I mentioned in the original post that I count the tropheys since Ronaldo's move to Real. Overall, the big tropheys are 4:4.
Even if Messi didn't score any goals he'd still be like David Silva in overdrive, if Ronaldo didn't score I'm not sure what purpose he'd serve. They score at roughly the same rate so it's an easy decision for me.
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