Messi v Ronaldo | Contains double your daily salt allowance
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Yep, it is more difficult playing against United, City, Chelsea and Arsenal than against relegation fodder.
And Messi has destroyed English clubs time afer time.
This is why I always find the, "Messi has only done it in one league", or "Messi would struggle in the Premier League" comments to be utterly bizarre. He's proven time and time again that he's more than capable of delivering against the top teams from leagues across all of Europe.
And to think that Aguero, Sanchez, Silva, Mata, and so are just normal players besides Messi doesn't make it better.
could be
When you put it that way... Can't argue that it is getting repetitive now (same with Ronaldo)
So who is leading the race for Ballon d'Or this year? In all of their 8 wins the player that has made it the furthest in CL (or lost by the least margin if eliminated at the same point) has gone on to win it. Don't know how much of that the voters take into account but at the moment Ronaldo should be clear favourite to reduce the gap to 5-4. If he wins the CL or the Euros (need a miracle with that team) then he has won it already regardless of what Barca do in the league.
Well hello. This should be interesting.
Are there stats about the average distance they cover per game? I suppose that Ronaldo runs at least 2 km more than Messi every single game.
Shows how football can change quickly. 4 weeks ago, the ballon d'or was heading to a no contest. Even talks that Ronaldo won't be on the three-man shortlist.
If Madrid wins it, he will win it.
If Madrid wins it, he will win it.
Yes, because he's a much better athlete.
When you got two players scoring fifty or more a season regularly, it's a subtle difference that could shift the balance one way or another. Just three weeks ago @FCBarca was boasting how Messi is just coming into red hot form at the right time and he was scoring stunners and assisting people blindfolded (gifs galore in his thread and la liga game week threads just a few weeks ago... Now some on the caf is saying he's been average this season) and it looked like he had a point.
But then el clasico happened and lacklustre games vs atletico in the cl happened and just like that we are reading Ronaldo has been "miles better this season".
with both in major decline and for all
intents and purposes, finished, shouldn't there be a new rivalry?
intents and purposes, finished, shouldn't there be a new rivalry?
It depends on what happens in the next month and the summer. Anyway, when it comes to Ballon D'Or, I think it should be Ronaldo vs Suarez, with a shot for Griezmann (especially if they win UCL, or who knows, UCL + La Liga + Euros).
Based on this season, Messi doesn't deserve to be in top 3, even if he is the best player of all time. You cannot flop when it matters most, gets outscored and out-assisted by a player of your team who also plays better in important matches and then hope to win the Ballon D'Or.
Knowing FIFA, it will be Messi again with also an another honorary award for Pele.
Or maybe playing in a different setup? Ronaldo might run more but I bet Messi has more touches of the ball per game.
Why do people come to these hasty conclusions all the time? up to about 3 weeks ago, Messi was actually averaging a higher goal output than his 2012 record breaking year. Barcelona were cruising to a league title and seemed impossible to stop in the CL. So in 3 weeks all the sudden all of that goes out the window and he isnt Balon D'or worthy? Never mind the fact that its a calendar year thing.
It's nice that you point at others for making such claims. Remember this beauty from a few weeks ago?
You're losing your touch, football professor
. I guess it wasn't the time to refresh memories after all, Messi missed his chance to make Müller feel like a 5th tier player again.If Messi wins the league + Copa and Ronaldo wins the CL, who is more likely to win?
Probably Ronaldo, especially if he breaks his CL record. There is a reason why nobody else has scored 15 + goals in a CL campaign. It's extremely difficult.
Did you not read the "and it looked like he had a point" part? I was agreeing with the claim and I disn't foresee fatigue setting in so dramatically in the business end of the season. A fully fit messi indeed makes Müller an ok player at best.It's nice that you point at others for making such claims. Remember this beauty from a few weeks ago?
You're losing your touch, football professor
I did. Still think it's funny how you specifically named someone else when you were on the forefront of it yourself.
I named fcbarca because he is the barca fan on here so probably has watched them (and followed his players) more than a United supporter...
Neymar
Some people remember only last weeks game so if Ronaldo or Messi have a bad game then they are in decline.
It's not only that. They have dominated football for so long, nearly a decade now, that people expect them to make way to some younger super star, e.g. Neymar.
Muller is a great bet if Bayern wins the CL and Germany wins the Euros
Settled.
It was settled years ago.
It was never a real debate.
Yep. Portugal didn't even need him to scrape the win in the end.
Ronaldo can win WC as well and he still wont be even close to Messi. Not sure which i enjoy more this days, Ronaldo performances or his fanboys....
Ronaldo wins this one.
Oh crap, this will be the thread of the summer i see until the season starts
The bitterness is real. It is understandable given Ronaldo just cemented his legacy by helping Portugal to their first ever major title but Messi bottled every final he was in and retired.
The only meaningful contribution he had all tournament were the 2 goals against a weakened Wales team. And all of a sudden, everything is settled
Eder is better than both.
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