Messi v Ronaldo | Contains double your daily salt allowance

[antohan]

Ronaldo seem to have a better head. That drive and mentality to win the big titles and perform at his best in the biggest games. Messi do not fully have the same and often goes missing in the biggest games. Overall I still think Messi is better though, but hard to deny what Ronaldo have done for Real Madrid in the CL.

Agree on this. Whenever I see these discussions that's what I see missing.

Messi is the more natural talent, exceptionally gifted from the off.

Cristiano is every bit his own doing. Yes, he has his natural talent and assets but he has worked constantly on extracting that extra edge in his performance. That makes him more remarkable to me, if not better.

 

[Red Dreams]

remember vaguely The Maradona v Messi discussions (fights).

Maradona was better.

 

[brian017]

I've been called out as a hypocrite for criticising Messi's international career because of Ireland's lack of success. Ireland's situation doesn't change the fact that his international career hasn't been a success

 

[Peyroteo]

I guess we'll disagree. How do you explain that game against Uruguay then? I thought Ronaldo's performance against Uruguay was awful - definitely much worse than any of his performances for Juventus in the CL knockouts this season. You can give credit to Uruguay, but I haven't seen Ronaldo that uninvolved in a game in years. Even against Liverpool (CL Final) when he had a really bad game, I feel like he at least tried to get involved. Against Uruguay, he looked like he wasn't even playing - similar to Messi's performance against Roma away from home.

He also looked really nervous against Iran - missing a penalty and almost getting sent off. I feel like you don't see that if he was with Real Madrid in the CL.

At the end of the day, it still stands that he has 0 goals in the World Cup knockouts. Also, I feel that both Messi and Ronaldo do not show much in the finals for their national teams. They both scored multiple goals in CL finals, yet nothing for their national team. I don't really think the Nations Cup is much of a competition but I thought Ronaldo disappeared in the final when he was excellent just in the semi-final before. Don't get me wrong, they are both amazing players, but it's obvious their performances in the finals and World Cup knockouts are nowhere near their performances for their clubs in those type of games.

You may be right that Ronaldo was much worse under Queiroz, but at the same time, I do believe Portugal goes through against Uruguay if he steps it up. Look at the way Cavani performed, carried them on his back. After he got injured, Ronaldo should have taken over the game. Just check out how clueless Uruguay looked against France when Cavani wasn't there. Guys like Cavani/Suarez play for a very bad offensive team (great defensively though), so there really is no excuse when Messi/Ronaldo cannot get past group stage or score in World Cup knockouts. If these guys can do it for a country like Uruguay (their midfielders are Vecino/Bentancur), Messi/Ronaldo need to do better.

They probably still have a World Cup each left.

He's played a grand total of 2 WC knockout matches since 2006... was our best player in the 2006 WC semifinal vs France, got kicked out of the battle of Nuremberg early on and did alright vs England, scored the winning penalty on top of it. Then the 2 WC knockout matches since 2006 were against Spain 2010 and Uruguay 2018 because we get absolutely horrendous WC draws every single time.

Look at the way Cavani performed, carried them on his back. After he got injured, Ronaldo should have taken over the game.

Cavani didn't carry anyone on his back. He had Luis Suarez playing like he was possessed and Godin-Gimenez having an incredible game. Besides, he got subbed off with 15 minutes to play. We got 7 or 8 minutes of actual football being played since they wasted a bunch of time. Not a lot of time for Ronaldo to make a difference, on another day he could have done so but just like he didn't really show up that day he doesn't show up for club every time either.

He played against Uruguay like he did against the same CB pairing vs Atletico plenty of times. He won't score an hattrick every time against Godin-Gimenez. You're basically comparing his worst games with the national team with the best for club. You talk about Iran and Uruguay games as if Spain and Morocco hadn't happened. He played as good of a World Cup as he had played during the season before it, he was as good for country as he is for club and that's been the case ever since Queiroz left.

 

[MrMarcello]

Ronaldo (the fat one) played in an amazing Brasil team. Put Messi or Ronaldo in those teams and the same outcome happens. In fact they probably win the 98 WC. That’s why he ain’t up there next to these 2.

* keep in mind I love fat Ronaldo he was exciting to watch.

It's more we'll never know just how great Ronaldo would have been, not that he was in a great side. His prime was stolen from him with those knee injuries. He'd likely have been the GOAT, or in the conversation for sure. If one is going to use playing for "an amazing Brasil team" to take him down a notch, one must also take away Pele's greatness as well (and Cruyff, and Beckenbauer, and so on). Ronaldo dominated Europe and the World from 96-98.

The closest to single-handedly taking a club/country to top of the mountain is likely Maradona, and that Argentina side wasn't exactly garbage (what he did at/for Napoli was incredible).

I highly doubt Messi or Ronaldo are scoring a hat trick in the 98 Final to close the hole France tore them.

 

[mariachi-19]

Salty rain drops keep falling on my head
Because Lionel Messi keeps playyying like he’s deadddddd
Oh maybe winning intensional trophies isn’t for him ohh
Those rain drops keep fallinggg, but it’s ok because Ronaldo keeps on winingggg

Da da da da

 

[Amar__]

And this is where this discussion ends whether you like it or not.


Messi’s International Career

06 World Cup: QF L
07 Copa America: Final L
10 World Cup: QF L
11 Copa America: QF L
14 World Cup: Final L
15 Copa America: Final L
16 Copa America: Final L
18 World Cup: Round of 16 L
19 Copa America: SF L


...Messi in this most recent Copa America: 5 games, 1 goal (penalty), 0 assists.

But yeah nothing is ever his fault.

Fair feck to you, you really proved your point. You should have also bolded the underline text to make it look better.

 

[Ole’s Wheel]

Fair feck to you, you really proved your point. You should have also bolded the underline text to make it look better.

Damn, someone’s a little tilted

 

[MalcolmTucker]

You realise Ronaldo's looks the same except for one W in 2016 in a game he was subbed off after 15 minutes right?

 

[Peyroteo]

You realise Ronaldo's looks the same except for one W in 2016 in a game he was subbed off after 15 minutes right?

We play in the Euros, not in Copa America. It’s not quite the same.

Especially with one playing with Portugal and the other for Argentina.

 

[MalcolmTucker]

Thing is, individually Ronaldo has never had a great tournament has he? We can talk about whose team is better or who missed what chance or who had an easier group etc but it's all misdirection and obfuscation. The truth is that Ronaldo has never played as well at an international tournament as Messi did at Copa America 16 or WC 2014

 

[Eddy_JukeZ]

Thing is, individually Ronaldo has never had a great tournament has he? We can talk about whose team is better or who missed what chance or who had an easier group etc but it's all misdirection and obfuscation. The truth is that Ronaldo has never played as well at an international tournament as Messi did at Copa America 16 or WC 2014

Don't think Messi played that well during the 2014 WC. He shouldn't have gotten the golden ball.

I actually think his best WC was in 2010, but him not scoring a single goal changes the narrative.

Thought he was fairly good in the Copa in 2015 and 2016.

Thought he had a really poor Copa now though for his standards.

But I agree Ronaldo's performances at international tournaments are generally overrated. Both have served up a similar level of performances, but Ronaldo has enjoyed more success, so it clouds the argument.

 

[mariachi-19]

Don't think Messi played that well during the 2014 WC. He shouldn't have gotten the golden ball.

I actually think his best WC was in 2010, but him not scoring a single goal changes the narrative.

Thought he was fairly good in the Copa in 2015 and 2016.

Thought he had a really poor Copa now though for his standards.

But I agree Ronaldo's performances at international tournaments are generally overrated. Both have served up a similar level of performances, but Ronaldo has enjoyed more success, so it clouds the argument.

One is the focal point of a team that while not containing decidedly average players, they are far from world beaters... the other plays in the team with the likes of Di Maria, Aguero, Higuain etc....

Its arguably easier to mark Ronaldo out of games for Portugal because the supporting casts poses less of a threat. You mark Messi out and there is usually 2 or 3 other world class players who can punish you.

 

[Eddy_JukeZ]

One is the focal point of a team that while not containing decidedly average players, they are far from world beaters... the other plays in the team with the likes of Di Maria, Aguero, Higuain etc....

Its arguably easier to mark Ronaldo out of games for Portugal because the supporting casts poses less of a threat. You mark Messi out and there is usually 2 or 3 other world class players who can punish you.

This again.

People focus so much on the names and on paper stuff. Look at performances and how the team is structured.

Di Maria, Aguero and Higuain have been largely terrible for Argentina.

B.Silva's nation league finals performances trumps anything the above 3 ever did for Argentina.

 

[Peyroteo]

Thing is, individually Ronaldo has never had a great tournament has he? We can talk about whose team is better or who missed what chance or who had an easier group etc but it's all misdirection and obfuscation. The truth is that Ronaldo has never played as well at an international tournament as Messi did at Copa America 16 or WC 2014

What the feck? Euro 2012 he was the actual best player in the tournament and better than any Messi tournament. You've got to be kidding me at including the 2014 World Cup there.

2016 Copa America Messi was actually pretty good, against Panama, the US and Paraguay but still.

 

[MalcolmTucker]

Don't think Messi played that well during the 2014 WC. He shouldn't have gotten the golden ball.

I actually think his best WC was in 2010, but him not scoring a single goal changes the narrative.

Thought he was fairly good in the Copa in 2015 and 2016.

Thought he had a really poor Copa now though for his standards.

But I agree Ronaldo's performances at international tournaments are generally overrated. Both have served up a similar level of performances, but Ronaldo has enjoyed more success, so it clouds the argument.

I agree, I think Robben should have won the Golden Ball but it's still a better tournament performance than Ronaldo has served up in his NT career.

I can barely remember the 2010 world cup, I'm guessing it was the one where Maradona was their manager.

 

[Peyroteo]

This again.

People focus so much on the names and on paper stuff. Look at performances and how the team is structured.

Di Maria, Aguero and Higuain have been largely terrible for Argentina.

B.Silva's nation league finals performances trumps anything the above 3 ever did for Argentina.

And why is that?

Every time the players that play next to Ronaldo magically turn great and the ones that play next to Messi magically turn to shit. Then we get to hear about Messi making everyone around him better. Di Maria and Higuain were great back in Madrid weren't they? Back in Euro 2016 Ronaldo was priviledged to play next to Andre Gomes while he was getting shat on at Barca. Semedo goes from great to terrible depending on who he's playing for. It's always the same crap. Morata was a superstar, Asensio a future Ballon D'Or winner, Lucas Vasquez an insane option from the bench, etc...

Higuain and Aguero score once every 2 games for Argentina ffs. They're the third and sixth top scorers in history for the national team. If they took penalties they'd have scored more goals than Messi. Ronaldo would have killed to play next to Di Maria, Aguero and Higuain for his country.

You think Messi wanted Nani, Postiga and Hugo Almeida instead ffs? Imagine just how much shite about these players we'd hear if they were born in Argentina.

William Carvalho and Lo Celso is the best example of this. Lo Celso was three times the player William was during this season. Then we get to international tournaments and apparently William is great and Lo Celso is crap. It's insane.

 

[MalcolmTucker]

What the feck? Euro 2012 he was the actual best player in the tournament and better than any Messi tournament. You've got to be kidding me at including the 2014 World Cup there.

Ahh the patented Peyroteo 'What the feck', reserved for when he's on the ropes and has to act incredulous because he knows he's wrong.

I don't remember Ronaldo being particularly good at Euro 2012 and this was back when I preferred him to Messi - he certainly was not as good as the Argentine at Copa America 16 or even WC2014. I thought I'd refresh my memory but there's only 3 minute compilations of him scoring 3 standard goals and doing the odd trick.



Also Iniesta was named best player of the tournament.

 

[Peyroteo]

Ahh the patented Peyroteo 'What the feck', reserved for when he's on the ropes and has to act incredulous because he knows he's wrong.

I don't remember Ronaldo being particularly good at Euro 2012 and this was back when I preferred him to Messi - he certainly was not as good as the Argentine at Copa America 16 or even WC2014. I thought I'd refresh my memory but there's only 3 minute compilations of him scoring 3 standard goals and doing the odd trick.



Also Iniesta was named best player of the tournament.

Yeah wrongly because they won. Of course you don't remember, you find a 3 minute shite compilation and judge it off that. Great. I guess that's a MalcolmTucker trademark argumentation.

He had probably the best performance of his career vs Netherlands in 2012 ffs, you're discussing this and you have no clue about it. That about sums it up. Was incredible vs Czech Republic and great vs Spain. With an average squad he turned us imo into the best team of the tournament. No doubt in my mind we'd have beaten Italy in the final had we got past Spain on penalties.

He deserved the player of the tournament award, still better than getting it while looking completely humiliated you're getting it though.

He was much better than Messi in 2014, even Messi in the 2010 WC was better than 2014. Not better than Messi in Copa America 2016, but maybe if one day the Euros start inviting Panama then Ronaldo will be able to shine a bit brighter. Would be easier to have more great tournaments if there had been 4 Euros in 6 years during his prime too.

 

[Cal?]

Basically Ronaldo did in 2018 what Messi did in 2014, score lots of goals in the group stage.

The main difference is Portugal could not defend their way into the final like Argentina did in 2014.

 

[padr81]

They were both poor at international level given their god given talents. Ronaldo's cv looks better because of Eder of all people. I'm in the camp Messi but he's failed at interntional level and while his 2014 is better than any of Ronnie's national tournies, Ronnie never had a campaign as disastrous as Messi has had at this Copa.

Fact is Messi has had better team mates for a long period and it's only in the last couple of years the pendulum has swung. But the difference is Ronaldo has won with top teammates and Messi hasn't. Ronaldo has won with average team mates and Messi hasn't... Ronaldo has won and Messi hasn't. Thats a plus for Ronnie and history will be written by the victors, Messi needed a Copa and he hasn't delivered... yes he's come close, if he had Aguero up top instead of Higuain in 2014 the story might be different but it is what it is.. Ronnie also missed or at least arrived late to the scene of Portugals golden generation, Messi had peak Argentina in 2010. Ronaldo has had the greater international career with a smaller nation.

My vote for GoaT is still Leo but it's getting closer and closer all the time to the point of where it's hard for me to say whose better. Messi's peak was higher, but I think Ronaldo might sneak it on having bigger balls and and managing himself better physically and mentally in the end.

 

[Bruno Marques]

Everytime i read this thread i get really sad because i see how the MAGNIFICENT PORTUGAL NATIONAL TEAM has been underperforming all this years.

All stars the only problem is Ronaldo dragging them down.

I pity Messi, playing with awfull players like Di MAria, Aguero, Mascherano, Higuain, Milito, Heinze, Tevez, Veron, Dybala. Poor Messi.

 

[MalcolmTucker]

Yeah wrongly because they won. Of course you don't remember, you find a 3 minute shite compilation and judge it off that. Great. I guess that's a MalcolmTucker trademark argumentation.

He had probably the best performance of his career vs Netherlands in 2012 ffs, you're discussing this and you have no clue about it. That about sums it up. Was incredible vs Czech Republic and great vs Spain. With an average squad he turned us imo into the best team of the tournament. No doubt in my mind we'd have beaten Italy in the final had we got past Spain on penalties.

He deserved the player of the tournament award, still better than getting it while looking completely humiliated you're getting it though.

He was much better than Messi in 2014, even Messi in the 2010 WC was better than 2014. Not better than Messi in Copa America 2016, but maybe if one day the Euros start inviting Panama then Ronaldo will be able to shine a bit brighter. Would be easier to have more great tournaments if there had been 4 Euros in 6 years during his prime too.

I won't deny Ronaldo was great vs. Netherlands but are you really saying this was an 'incredible' performance?

 

[InterFan1998]

He's played a grand total of 2 WC knockout matches since 2006... was our best player in the 2006 WC semifinal vs France, got kicked out of the battle of Nuremberg early on and did alright vs England, scored the winning penalty on top of it. Then the 2 WC knockout matches since 2006 were against Spain 2010 and Uruguay 2018 because we get absolutely horrendous WC draws every single time.



Cavani didn't carry anyone on his back. He had Luis Suarez playing like he was possessed and Godin-Gimenez having an incredible game. Besides, he got subbed off with 15 minutes to play. We got 7 or 8 minutes of actual football being played since they wasted a bunch of time. Not a lot of time for Ronaldo to make a difference, on another day he could have done so but just like he didn't really show up that day he doesn't show up for club every time either.

He played against Uruguay like he did against the same CB pairing vs Atletico plenty of times. He won't score an hattrick every time against Godin-Gimenez. You're basically comparing his worst games with the national team with the best for club. You talk about Iran and Uruguay games as if Spain and Morocco hadn't happened. He played as good of a World Cup as he had played during the season before it, he was as good for country as he is for club and that's been the case ever since Queiroz left.

We can agree to disagree. But it seems like these are all excuses. Sure he's had a tough draw but so has Madrid at times and he's stepped up. The situations are always different - Messi has weaker players for Argentina than Barcelona. But at the end of the day both play in weaker national teams than their clubs. At the end of the day, it still means that neither have scores in world cup knockouts? You have to say that it's not consistent with their careers. They both probably played around 6 or so games in knockouts? That's almost the equivalent of 0 goals over the R16, quarters, and semis of CL. That's not showing the same performance for country as in club. Also Ronaldo has scored in a number of CL finals as has Messi. They've both played multiple national team finals but never scored. That shows that their performances are not.the same - now, it's not only them but the teams they play for. Its pretty natural you won't have as much of an impact if your team is worse.

Sure scoring a penalty against England is great as Messis scoring one in WC semi is as well. Keep in mind Ebglad was playing with 10 men I believe so that should have been done much earlier (finishing the game off).

They have both made big plays but they've also failed and choked on occassions. Messi penalty vs Chelsea and Ronaldo penalty vs Bayern. They both missed penalties in the group stage this year.

You stay that people.act as if Spain and Morocco didn't happen, but you also can't pretend like Iran and Uruguay didn't happen. Ronaldo was brilliant in one game, good in another, bad in one, and totally disappeared in the final game (Bernardo Silva really stepped it up in the 2nd half vs Uruguay).

I'm not sure about your point in Portugal having tough draws. Are you saying Ronaldo didn't have the chance to impress because he was facing difficult teams? If thata the case I agree with you. Both Ronaldo and Messi are better in the group stage as they face weaker teams and I think that's evident as all of their WC goals are in the group stage. As soon as tougher teams come, they weren't able to be as efficient. Imo that's natural.

From the current players the one who has impressed me the most in terms if keeping the level in international football after club is Luis Suarez. He's scored in the WC knockouts and stepped it up in Copa America. He scored the winning goal in the final of 2011 and was great that while tournament. His performance in 2011 Copa is better than any that Ronaldo and Messi have had internationally. They are great in spurts ( Messi in group stage 2014 vs knockouts, Ronaldo in the first 2 games of 2018 compared to the last 2) but Suarez stepped it up the entire 2011 Copa.

 

[InterFan1998]

Everytime i read this thread i get really sad because i see how the MAGNIFICENT PORTUGAL NATIONAL TEAM has been underperforming all this years.

All stars the only problem is Ronaldo dragging them down.

I pity Messi, playing with awfull players like Di MAria, Aguero, Mascherano, Higuain, Milito, Heinze, Tevez, Veron, Dybala. Poor Messi.

To be fair Messi didn't play much with Veron. Prime Veron was early 2000s and be didn't travel to 2006 due to the whole Sorin thing. I think he went to 2010 when he was 50 years old.

Maradona unfortunately disliked Milito and played Higuain over him.

 

[Bruno Marques]

To be fair Messi didn't play much with Veron. Prime Veron was early 2000s and be didn't travel to 2006 due to the whole Sorin thing. I think he went to 2010 when he was 50 years old.

Maradona unfortunately disliked Milito and played Higuain over him.

I added Veron just because of the name.they only overlaped in 2010 and Veron was old.

I was just making fun of people talking so great about the portuguese national team

 

[Peyroteo]

I won't deny Ronaldo was great vs. Netherlands but are you really saying this was an 'incredible' performance?

Absolutely. Scored a great winner at a hugely important time in a very tight game, hit the post twice on what would have been two insane goals and was responsible for everything we created that day. Watch the game if you have to.

 

[Tostao_80]

Hah you're the worst poster in this thread, and that takes some doing. Just ad hominem over and over again. Won't hide the fact that your boy has been missing outside of la Liga for about 5 years now, while Ronaldo has racked up 4 CLs and 2 international titles in that time[/QUOTE]

Cristiano fans and their alternative facts again. Was Leo Messi missing in last seasons CL? Wasn't he the best player? Didn't he score 12 goals in just 9 starts (including 6 in 6 knockout games)?
He was very good.

 

[SportingCP96]

Thing is, individually Ronaldo has never had a great tournament has he? We can talk about whose team is better or who missed what chance or who had an easier group etc but it's all misdirection and obfuscation. The truth is that Ronaldo has never played as well at an international tournament as Messi did at Copa America 16 or WC 2014

World Cup 14 his best performance were in the group vs wait for it...Iran and Bosnia. In the knockouts he was very arguable there third best player.

Ronaldo was brilliant in euro 12 got Portugal out of the group of death and in to the semis and also euro 16 where he is the main reason we got as far as we did. Euro 04 at 19 he was great as well.

Messi had a good Copa but...its the Copa the level and quality is inferior to that of the Euro.

 

[Bojan11]

Indeed. They want to switch to having it the same year as the Euros so are starting next summer. After that it’ll be 2024.

That’s shit.

I rather it’s not on same time as Euros. I guess Fifa are putting pressure on them with their new shitty world club tournament too.

 

[SportingCP96]

Hah you're the worst poster in this thread, and that takes some doing. Just ad hominem over and over again. Won't hide the fact that your boy has been missing outside of la Liga for about 5 years now, while Ronaldo has racked up 4 CLs and 2 international titles in that time

Cristiano fans and their alternative facts again. Was Leo Messi missing in last seasons CL? Wasn't he the best player? Didn't he score 12 goals in just 9 starts (including 6 in 6 knockout games)?
He was very good.[/QUOTE]
Ronaldo has done that for the past 4 to 5 season running..He has double the amount of goals of anyone ever in the knockout stage...

 

[Cal?]

Cristiano fans and their alternative facts again. Was Leo Messi missing in last seasons CL? Wasn't he the best player? Didn't he score 12 goals in just 9 starts (including 6 in 6 knockout games)?
He was very good.

Seriously? You’re going with best player in the CL?

 

[Daysleeper]

Seriously? You’re going with best player in the CL?

In 2019 Messi was comfortably the best player in UCL

 

[Hughes35]

I still just don't see Messi being that good in another team. Sure, take him out of Barca and put him in Peps City team and he would tear the prem apart. Take him out of barca and put him in Utd, Chelsea, Arse or Tottenham? I just don't see him being anywhere near the same player.

That's the difference for me. You can put Ronaldo in any decent team In any league and he will smash it. Especial a few years ago. When he was early / mid twenties you could have put him in the Brighton team and he'd have run riot. People do him a massive, massive disservice as to how good he was outside of just the goals.

 

[Daysleeper]

I still just don't see Messi being that good in another team. Sure, take him out of Barca and put him in Peps City team and he would tear the prem apart. Take him out of barca and put him in Utd, Chelsea, Arse or Tottenham? I just don't see him being anywhere near the same player.

That's the difference for me. You can put Ronaldo in any decent team In any league and he will smash it. Especial a few years ago. When he was early / mid twenties you could have put him in the Brighton team and he'd have run riot. People do him a massive, massive disservice as to how good he was outside of just the goals.

Disagree, put him on any top 5 team in the epl he’ll look amazing. He routinely crushes epl teams while having very little support lately. Barca’s second best scorer is own goal.

If he doesn’t have to always go deep to pick up the ball to start the build up he can be very good anywhere. If Aguero, Salah and Mane can be very good on a variety of teams Messi would outclass them all.

If Auba can do the business for Arsenal absolutely no reason why Messi couldn’t.

 

[RedRonaldo]

This year, Messi has been brilliant in La Liga as usual. His CL performance has been great too, up until semi final before losing badly to Liverpool. His Copa performance has been very bad. Overall he won La Liga, top scorer in league and CL. I think at club level he is easily the best player this year, but at international level he is really a big disappointment.

For Ronaldo case, although he didn’t score as many, he is actually very good in Serie A, won player of year there, and won the league comfortably. His CL performance is actually not bad in the knockout stages, scored 3 goals against Athletico in last 16 with amazing come back performance, and 2 goals in quarter against Ajax over 2 legs, where they eventually loss. He also won National Cup with Portugal, with his amazing hattrick and performance in semi. Overall he won Serie A, National Cup and voted best player in Serie A. I’d say he is having a more successful year overall, but not as outstanding as Messi in terms of individual stats.

 

[Cal?]

In 2019 Messi was comfortably the best player in UCL

Seriously? 2 goals each against Lyon, United and Liverpool?

2 of those Barca would have beaten easily without him.

 

[Tostao_80]

Seriously? You’re going with best player in the CL?

This is where Cristiano fans and the phrase rose tinted glasses come in. You find the idea that Leo was the CL best player as ludicrous?
If it's so ludicrous, name 3 better players in last seasons CL.

 

[Cal?]

This is where Cristiano fans and the phrase rose tinted glasses come in. You find the idea that Leo was the CL best player as ludicrous?
If it's so ludicrous, name 3 better players in last seasons CL.

No, I thought he was ONE of the best players in the CL, but it’s ironic the Messi fans resorted to talking about the CL when they’ve claimed for years that the CL requires a lot of luck, is just a handful of games, etc etc

 

[shamans]

You realise Ronaldo's looks the same except for one W in 2016 in a game he was subbed off after 15 minutes right?

Yeah forget that they were there because of him or how all of them credited him for the euro.