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Messi v Ronaldo | Contains double your daily salt allowance
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So the boss Ferguson has just said that Ronaldo would score a hatrick for Doncaster, QPR etc but Messi wouldn't(No Bias there I suppose).
Imo Messi could score a grand total of zero goals and he would still be a better player than Ronaldo.
Here is the link http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/32455354
Imo Messi could score a grand total of zero goals and he would still be a better player than Ronaldo.
Here is the link http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/32455354
Fergie has always been blinded by bias in this debate. I remember him saying Cristiano was "streets ahead" of Messi back when Messi first took over him.*
*though he's pretty much always been better, just took a while to get over his injury problems.
Ferguson is right.
Messi wouldn't be the same player if he was playing for a team other than Barcelona. Ronaldo's talent is such that he would dominate for whatever team, in whatever league.
Messi wouldn't be the same player if he was playing for a team other than Barcelona. Ronaldo's talent is such that he would dominate for whatever team, in whatever league.
Yeah like he so clearly dominates with Portugal
You need to find another sport.
Well, his goal record for Portugal is still fantastic. The trouble is he hasn't been able to perform at his peak on the main international stage partly due to being unlucky with injury timings. Messi has had a similar problem with Argentina, even though he has an advantage over Ronaldo by benefiting from the use of the performance enhancing drug HGH.
What!?
Fergie needs to be stopped.
One of the greatest footballing minds alive needs to be stopped from talking about football because he is upsetting the Messi fanboys?
You people need to learn to suck it up. I don't think there has ever been an athlete whose fans are as sensitively defensive as Messi's. It's almost embarrassing, like a bunch of loved up teenage One Direction fangirls.
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i thought these "myths" were put to bed already. Both fantastic players. To my mind, Messi's on a different level if you take away "only goals".
But each to their own.
SAF is known to talk absolute bollocks at times.
Yeah, I think the boss also mentioned Phil Jones as a possible United GOAT and he reccommended Moyes as his successor...even gods are fallible every so often I guess
Obviously biased. Like when Pele was asked who among C Ronaldo and Kaka was better circa 2007.
1.) Just because he is one of the greatest footballing minds alive doesn't necessarily mean everything he says is correct or lacks bias
2.)You cant call anyone a fanboy when you spew such nonsense
3.) Messi wouldn't score a hatrick for Doncaster or QPR ? okay, anyone with a reasonable amount of knowledge in football would and should know that, that statement is wrong, its not just about Messi v Ronaldo but football in general, how many average players have scored Hatricks in the EPL,Championship and League 1, but Messi cant ?
4.) you come across as an aggressive WUM.
Just look at the type of goals and assists both players score and u will see Messi has far more influence on his team than Ronaldo.
Ronaldo a fantastic goal scorer but Messi is on another level than him.
The thing I don't like about the current Ronaldo is he seems to have sacrificed his own ability just to score more goals.
The run and assist he got for Madrid the other night Is a perfect example, he has it in his locker to run passed players and cause all sorts of trouble for the other team but he would rather goal hang and get all the praise for the goals.
Ronaldo a fantastic goal scorer but Messi is on another level than him.
The thing I don't like about the current Ronaldo is he seems to have sacrificed his own ability just to score more goals.
The run and assist he got for Madrid the other night Is a perfect example, he has it in his locker to run passed players and cause all sorts of trouble for the other team but he would rather goal hang and get all the praise for the goals.
I wouldn't go quite that far. He had good tournaments for them in Euro 2004, WC 2006 and Euro 2012. Not up there with the performances of other players that have excelled at international level, but then again, lots of players who have had excellent international careers have played in very strong teams and in certain cases have played with their teammates from club level and in teams using the same tactics (or very similar tactics at least) to those which they are used to at club level.
On topic, I disagree with the idea that Ronaldo would do better at a lesser team than Messi would.
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he says that messi is the best player in the world but that ronaldo could play for QPR
Messi is on a different level. He's an absurdly good goalscorer but also an absurdly good footballer. Saf is obviously biased and has always had a close connection and soft spot for ronaldp.
Erm ronaldo fans, Nadal fans, federer fans, sachin tendulkar fans. Basically look past the ronaldo cum covering your eyelids and you'll see the same bias for your idol and other top sportsman too.
Messi is another level altogether. He's the only absolute genius ive seen in football. Ive seen some in other sports but in football messi is in that separate tier (ffrom the footballers ive seen).
Someone share that post of the Messi highlights from today's game. Ronaldo could not pull off passes like that and that's the difference between the two.
If you haven't realised by now Messi is a superior player you never will. His passing, vision and creativity are as good as any world class playmaker. He can fall back and dictate the game if he wants to. Can't say the same about Ronaldo. At this point the only argument against Messi is that he's only played in one team and one league. He has yet to prove himself in the mighty premier league.
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I think Ferguson was just saying that Ronaldo's set of attributes mean that he can be effective in most styles of play. While Messi suits have players to link up with. Plus he's obviously very biased in the matter. What he said isn't that ridiculous.
SAF is right in the sense that Ronaldo would do better for a team that played with a very direct style than Messi would in a direct/aggressive league - if you watch the clip it's obvious that is what he means. It was a long winded way of saying that Ronaldo's power and physicality places him above Messi, which is more contentious but certainly not a ridiculous opinion.
The idiots on here having a go at SAF would be laughable if it wasn't so pathetic. Most clearly haven't watched the interview or don't have the intellectual capacity or curiosity to interpret the opinion of one of the most successful figures in sporting history, yet they still have the arrogance to mock. A healthy dose of self-reflection is needed by many.
The idiots on here having a go at SAF would be laughable if it wasn't so pathetic. Most clearly haven't watched the interview or don't have the intellectual capacity or curiosity to interpret the opinion of one of the most successful figures in sporting history, yet they still have the arrogance to mock. A healthy dose of self-reflection is needed by many.
Get a grip folks. He's clearly acknowledged Messi's greatness but prefers Ronaldo because he's worked with him. This was a light-hearted conversation on a snooker table - it's no big deal.
As much as we all love Fergie, he is wrong. Messi could play in any league, anywhere and would dominate. Sure he has people that help him dominate, but you don't score goals by running from the halfway line against a top divison team, then struggle to play in divison 2/3
I agree. SAF is obviously going to prefer Ronaldo because he has worked with him in the past and they share a great relationship. I wouldn't take his opinion very seriously on this R vs M debate.
Messi's work rate was the worst for the entire Barcelona side already in 2013, Ronaldo beats him hands down in terms of work rate/distance covered. Balotelli actually runs more than Messi in average the last time I checked it in the CL and only Ibrahimovic is in Messi's class when it comes to laziness.
Ibra and Messi are both class players, I don't care about who is better between Ronaldo/Messi but Messi is one lazy SOB.
Because this is a thread with extremists I expect the "He does it for the team to save energy and run faster and more in the offense" but that is bullshit. Today, and in general, he decides to completely skip running even in the offense and ruins an entire attack due to it.Ronaldo is a better goalscorer over the last two seasons, and works a lot harder for his team. Messi is more or less better at everything else.
Fergie has always been biased. What he says for players should be taken with a lot (not only a pinch) of salt.
Not really. "I think Messi is a Barcelona player" was a little bit of a dig and clear implication that he simply couldn't be successful in another side, despite having mastered just about every part of attacking football there is to master.
mighty premier league ?!! the premier league was mighty 5 yrs ago or more. Spanish teams are dominating both European cups and it has been for a while !!
What's with all this English arrogance considering the premier league the benchmark against which each player should be measured ?!! No wonder the cold night at Stoke has become an internet meme, a sarcastic one .
Messi is being compared to Pele and Maradona
Ronaldo is being compared to Messi
QED
Ronaldo is being compared to Messi
QED
Eh? It's obviously a dig but that doesn't change anything in my post, so I'm confused as to what your not really comment is about.
There's no doubt Messi would be successful anywhere but there isn't one club in world football where he would have been as well suited as he was/is to Barcelona. Messi would not do as well as Ronaldo playing for a hoof-ball team in an aggressive, direct league. Where I disagree with SAF is that I think this is because Messi would be wasted in such a side, but the fact remains and is completely indisputable.
You'd think this of all threads would NEED a poll @Rado_N
There's no need for a poll, it's just a place for the bickering to be kept.
If Messi played in a direct/aggressive league he'd absolutely tear it up. Messi with the amount of space you get in England...Christ. He'd be slicing defences open every time he got on the ball.
You only need to look at the damage he's caused this season against any team stupid enough to play a high line against Barcelona. His overall game is far too good for him to be marginalised in any league/team.
I don't get this. Cristiano Ronaldo is better than Messi according to Fergie because he can fit into a hoof-ball team easily? In that case, you could say Messi is better because he fits much better into a side like Barcelona...no?
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