Then I'll gladly eat my words.Hope this jinxes the whole WC and now Nigeria wins tomorrow, Argentina beats Nigeria with an Higuain goal, and then they win the whole thing with 4 1-0 wins, Messi scoring 4 penalties
Messi v Ronaldo | Contains double your daily salt allowance
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He was good in 2010 and very good in 2006. In the Euros he has always had good tournaments. Obviously they won't both always perform and Ronaldo will have plenty of poor games too, I just think it happens left often when the stakes are high.
True or False: outside of group stage, Mascherano was Argies best player in 2014?
This team has no technical ability or physicality in midfield or defence, as much as I would like to see Messi and Argentina do well it's not going to happenHope this jinxes the whole WC and now Nigeria wins tomorrow, Argentina beats Nigeria with an Higuain goal, and then they win the whole thing with 4 1-0 wins, Messi scoring 4 penalties
They are probably better off exiting in the group stage because they are a shambles
People are getting way overboard in regards to Portugal quality, they are pretty shite themselves but just not as inept as Argentina. If Morocco had ounce of composure, Portugal would've been on brink themselves. Their attackers can't buy a goal between them and have to solely rely on Ronaldo who won't be able to carry them through. They're gonna get knocked out by a decent side in KO stages.
You seriously want to get there?
Who has cost their respective team more by missing penalties?
Don’t take it too seriously. It’s just a matter of opinions.
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it's 1 final a piece am I right?You seriously want to get there?
Who has cost their respective team more by missing penalties?
True or false Messi was the best player at the 2014 world cup?
Only finals count? What about the one he missed against 10 men Chelsea? or even that one a few days ago?
If you can name either one to take a penalty with your life on the line, do you pick Messi?
False, James
And Messi was very good in 2010. Messi was very good in 2014. This new narrative on this board that Ronaldo performs in World Cups and Messi doesn't is ridiculous. Not saying you're saying this, but it's the new narrative.
Laughably false. Which is why everyone laughed at the announcement at the time.
False. Robben, Muller and James were better. Maybe Mascherano and Kroos too if you give more weight to KO than group stage, which I think you should.
Even Messi was surprised and felt uncomfortable getting that award.
It's lucky the poll was closed or we could have a landslide after today.
Absolutely false.
I think Iran are gonna do them. I also think if Iceland draw tomorrow Argentina might sneak through. Would be completely ironic given the current situation.
Atm Portugal are a 5/10 team whose 10/10 player is playing at 10/10. Argentina are a 4/10 team, whose 10/10 player is playing at 4/10.
Interestingly this is the only WC Ronaldo has turned up for, 3 goals combined in his last 3. 2014 was the only WC Messi turned up in. Both have shit the bed at 3/4 World Cups, though Messi had a great team in 2014 in his only good one.
He takes the blame for Messi not winning THAT world cup final, it's a totally different thing.
But you're twisting the whole thing to sell some kind of weird opinion or fact, Leo put Argentina through group phase, he assisted Di Maria in the goal vs Switzerland, 'at least was present" initiating Higuain's goal in the midfield, rated with a 9 in semis vs Netherlands and was Argentina's only attacking threat in the final.
But when I enter this thread: Cal & the gang - Messi did nothing in 2014, yet they blame that guy who scored a single goal in the tournament
I agree with Robben and James, but not with Mascherano, Kroos, and Muller. It's arguable. All of them had great world cups in 2014.
Who was Argentina's best player in 1990? Knockout stages too?
Regardless of Messi vs Ronaldo, there is absolutely no way Messi deserved to be named best player at the last World Cup.
Even Messi himself looked a bit sheepish in collecting the award.
Even Messi himself looked a bit sheepish in collecting the award.
Even he had the decency to look embarrassed.[/QUOTE]
You could see the embarrassment upon collecting that.[/QUOTE]Wow you guys amaze me at your inability to ever praise Messi for anything and push your Ronaldo narative
False.
Let any player perform the way Messi performed in the WC 2014 and the praise would be beyond imagination. The thing is, it is expected from Messi because, well, he is arguably the best pure footballer to date.
I also don't think he was that bad tonight given the state his team was in. Still initiated attacks, beat many oppononents and had some good passes. Football is played with eleven palyers. Messi's having the same problems Ronaldo has had pre 2014.
So thus far despite being 33, Ronaldo has turned up to a single World Cup and his 4 goals in this will count for nothing.
Iran? They can't score to save their life.
As for Iceland, a draw tomorrow and Croatia will have the decency to let them win the final game.
Pray tell where I said he did nothing?
Then you'll gladly concede that Ronaldo is the better player when he collects his sixth Ballon d'Or next year?
Erm I voted Messi in the above poll. I am also not blind either and know what I see with my own eyes. Messi was not player of the tournament and if you peddle that, then you need to take those tinted glasses off mate
Ronaldo will trump Messi in longevity of being a great.
Messi trumps Ronaldo when you compare the genuine peaks of the two.
This is Ronaldo's world cup, and however big of a Messi fan I am, Ronaldo certainly deserves it. He's shown drive that Messi hasn't shown in this world cup.
Sure on paper Argentina have a couple more better players than Portugal, but the latter clearly have a plan which has helped Ronaldo. Argentina are in a state with no tactics whatsoever. There is so much Messi could do, but to potentially exit at the group stages will not look good on Messi.
We'll see how far Portugal can go in this tournament - I won't be shocked to see Iran cause a shock in the last match of the group stages.
Needless to say though, if it was up for debate who would win the ballon d'Or this year - then it certainly isn't now.
Ronaldo's year again. Fair fecks to him.
Messi trumps Ronaldo when you compare the genuine peaks of the two.
This is Ronaldo's world cup, and however big of a Messi fan I am, Ronaldo certainly deserves it. He's shown drive that Messi hasn't shown in this world cup.
Sure on paper Argentina have a couple more better players than Portugal, but the latter clearly have a plan which has helped Ronaldo. Argentina are in a state with no tactics whatsoever. There is so much Messi could do, but to potentially exit at the group stages will not look good on Messi.
We'll see how far Portugal can go in this tournament - I won't be shocked to see Iran cause a shock in the last match of the group stages.
Needless to say though, if it was up for debate who would win the ballon d'Or this year - then it certainly isn't now.
Ronaldo's year again. Fair fecks to him.
The keeper whose name I forgot.
In all fairness, whoscored is a bit mad. Big names get massively inflated ratings.
It's not possible for Ronaldo to be a better player the talent gap is too big
And Messi would star in a new photoshoot where he comes out of a goat shed and tries to eat grassHope this jinxes the whole WC and now Nigeria wins tomorrow, Argentina beats Nigeria with an Higuain goal, and then they win the whole thing with 4 1-0 wins, Messi scoring 4 penalties
You could see the embarrassment upon collecting that.[/QUOTE]Wow you guys amaze me at your inability to ever praise Messi for anything and push your Ronaldo narative[/QUOTE]
Come on he was clearly not the best player at the last world cup. There's no harm in pointing that out. Even the man himself looked like he wanted the Earth to swallow him rather than have to walk up and collect that award.
I think it is foolish to claim that Ronaldo is the best player in this world Cup after just two games. At the moment he is the best, but KO stages are the real deal.
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