Surprising. Thought he would have given the World Cup one more go.
Messi retires from Argentina.
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To be honest I don't blame anyone for not wanting to go to Russia in 2 years time.
What a disappointment. Oh God love him that he's lost 4 finals. What about the other world class players that give it their all to play for a country who could only ever dream of even making it to a final. Representing your country should be the biggest honour there is and he's throwing his dummy out of the pram like a little baby. And there are so many players out there who couldn't give two fecks about their national team.
Look at Alexander Hleb. The man is 35 years old and he still plays for Belarus even though they have never even qualified for the world cup or the Euros.
I don't think Messi will actually retire though. Give it a few months and he'll come back with his tail between his legs.
Look at Alexander Hleb. The man is 35 years old and he still plays for Belarus even though they have never even qualified for the world cup or the Euros.
I don't think Messi will actually retire though. Give it a few months and he'll come back with his tail between his legs.
I'm 99% sure he'll be back sooner or later. Now it's time to se the likes of Dybala, Icardi, Correa, Lo Celso, Ruben and more.
3 Finals in last 3 possible finals, he's performed for Argentina, they just haven't had the luck in the final game.
Stop playing the poor little unloved Messi card @IFC 1905
You know what David Beckham did after the uk public did this and sang to him all season that they had all bummed his spice girl wife?
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So? Did you read what I said? I said he came as an underdog. Do you think someone expected Argentina to win or Maradona to shine like that? Did you know that Argentina almost got out of that torunament? We had to play a playoff to reach it. That team was very, very criticized.
I'm not talking about what happened during the WC. But Maradona was never pointed by the media or press in Argentina like Messi. Since 2006, Messi was expected to be THE MAN from argentina's media. They even blamed him for not singing the national anthem ffs...
So? Did you read what I said? I said he came as an underdog. Do you think someone expected Argentina to win or Maradona to shine like that? Did you know that Argentina almost got out of that torunament? We had to play a playoff to reach it. That team was very, very criticized.
I'm not talking about what happened during the WC. But Maradona was never pointed by the media or press in Argentina like Messi. Since 2006, Messi was expected to be THE MAN from argentina's media. They even blamed him for not singing the national anthem ffs...
See my post above. Poor poor little tax dodging Messi isn't showered with universal love, the heart bleeds.
Looked rubbish in the WC final, made it through the skin of their teeth past the QF's in the last Copa and this years one they had really nice draw and only Chile as a main competitor in the tournament.
Wouldn't call it a great achievement by any means.
He will be back playing two more world cups. You lot can redo this again.
Every great player playing for his country, especially in South America, has faced similar levels of pressure and expectations as Messi and quite a few of them dealt with it better.
the only one who comes close for the past 20 years is Ronaldo for Brazil and he had a seizure
Specially argeis like Riquelme or Tevez...who also retired for a while due to the media pressure.
Dunno other cases but can't be near of what the best argentinian players have to deal with.
Even Maradona as a coach the first thing he did after qualifying for South Africa, was his famous "keep sucking" to the entire press.
Most teams who reach a final will scrape through a tie in the run. Doesn't mean a great deal.
Sort out the font size.
And he's still probably the most influential player for his national team, I can only think of Iniesta who has helped lift team all-round as he has, I think people fail to appreciate someone like that I don't know why.
It's a sad day for Argentina though.
All in all. So many bizarre, hateful/gleeful posts in this thread.
Calling him a quitter and a bottler yet retires from internationals same age as Scholes..
Calling him a quitter and a bottler yet retires from internationals same age as Scholes..
Scholes also bottled it and was a quitter, got played on the left for like 8 games and quit.
Little wonder that Messi haven't been able to win anything, if their dressing room has so many top players looking to quit because of this.
I don't expect them all to do it, and there's a good chance all of them are down and that none of them will be checking out just yet, but I'd say it does say something about their mentality.
I love Messi to death, he's definitely an all-time great, but the people in contention for GOAT tended to be talismans for their teams, whether it be club or national. I flip flop between wanting to say that he is GOAT and that he still has that little gap that he can't make up.
I certainly expect him to be back for Russia 2018, though.
I don't expect them all to do it, and there's a good chance all of them are down and that none of them will be checking out just yet, but I'd say it does say something about their mentality.
I love Messi to death, he's definitely an all-time great, but the people in contention for GOAT tended to be talismans for their teams, whether it be club or national. I flip flop between wanting to say that he is GOAT and that he still has that little gap that he can't make up.
I certainly expect him to be back for Russia 2018, though.
It's between Netherlands and Hungary, Brazil 82 was just so unique and entertaining, but not better. (And Brazil in 1950 was amazing from what I've read)
Once Argentina is in danger of not qualifying for the World Cup. The AFA will beg Messi to come back.
Messi is really mad against the AFA lads. He said in public that they are a disaster. You have to do the things pretty badly to have Messi posting on instagram against you...
Good point mate. But honestly, I'm not looking for Messi to win finals. I'm just looking for him to have a tournament where despite the outcome, there is no question that he is the best player in that tournament. Play at Barcelona levels. Is that asking too much? I acknowledge that it is a terrible burden for anyone to bear, and it's being asked of him by us armchair feckwits... But shouldn't we have high expectations of someone deemed the best player of all time by some?
That's not true. I could have sworn @Brwned did some excellent research showing the pressure being put on Maradona in Argentina leading up to 1986.
All the debates about his place in football aside, this news is heartbreaking.
That team played really bad until the WC and got to it in the playoff. There wasn't that much pressure to win it...
You can hear it yourself from the man here, around 10:20
Stop playing the poor little unloved Messi card @IFC 1905
You know what David Beckham did after the uk public did this and sang to him all season that they had all bummed his spice girl wife?
What is this? And what has Beckham got to do with Messi?
Other than the 1st guy, hardly know anything about rest. Icardi doesn't look that good, IMO. Maybe other teams will not park the bus now.
wow wasnt expecting that. dick move?
I was referring to this post. Maybe Maradona didn't feel the pressure, but looks like expectations were high.
I didn't read it entirely (I'm at work and literally slept 2 hours) but as I said, he did have pressure in 1982 (and before). And during that WC in Spain he made a stupid tackle, got a red card and went off without even arguing to the ref. For me that is a real shame. He let their team with 10 men, and we lost 3-0 against Brasil.
But again, that's a Colombian newspaper. And the reality is that the team wasn't playing well and no one trusted Bilardo back in the day.
I'm no arguing he wasn't good or anything. But no one expected him to do what he did in 1986. You can tell from the video I posted, that even Valdano didn't expect Maradona to carry them like that. He was good, but he exploded in that moment and then made history in Naples.
Might pull for Argentina to win the next World Cup just for the fuel it will add to the Messi debate.
I think that, except perhaps Totti, Messi is the biggest talisman any team in top club football has right now. He is FC Barcelona, and that's barely even an exaggeration.
Did you watch the 86 WC? Maradona was a brilliant player and he was a true leader unlike Messi and the other failed free kicker taker.
Maradona was and still is the best player ever, he dragged his team, like Messi he had good players around him but the difference was Maradona leading them.
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What a pussy.
Ah, I think we're arguing different things here, I agree with what you said after viewing the video.
What a wimp.
Failed with the Argentinian team.
Failed with the Argentinian team.
The reaction of majority would have been so very different if Ronaldo had done same. This petulant little hypocrite chickens out and people try to find ways to rationalize it.
in light of todays events I too would like to announce my retirement from the Argentina national side