Memphis Depay | Lyon player

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£13 million rejected, would be surprised if we got the price above £15 million though. Moving him and Schneiderlin for a combined 37 mil would be great work though considering we didn't even pretend they were useful.
 
Started less than 30 games for United after coming to a new country aged just 21, following that amazing season in PSV.

Amazed just how written off he is as "complete garbage" by the majority. :confused:

Why do you think that might be?
 
A lot has changed these past 15—20 years though. The Dutch top division's overall quality isn't quite the same today as it was back then.
Has to do with talented youngsters being snatched up when they are 9-16 years old. TFM was actually an Ajax player. Pereira PSV. Januzaj Anderlecht, and so on.

Vincent Janssen just had an amazing season at PSV, ...
He played for AZ, not PSV
 
perhaps... but certainly when he signed he showed glimpses of his potential and enough to indicate that he could be very good...
Hopefully we get a buyer because its in nobody's interest for him to stagnate on the bench / reserves... failing a sale perhaps a loan is an option?
Which matches were these sorry? I remember seeing a winger that wasn't as quick as I thought he would be and wasn't particularly effective at dribbling
 
Has to do with talented youngsters being snatched up when they are 9-16 years old. TFM was actually an Ajax player. Pereira PSV. Januzaj Anderlecht, and so on.

Yes, the Dutch league is more of a talent factory nowadays, so to speak. That is one of the changes since then.

Didn't think it needed mentioning though, as it's been pretty evident lately.
 
If Depay is earning 100k/week at United it'll cost the club around 2.5m to keep him until summer. Just sayin'

So the sooner a deal can get done the better cause he ain't making it here

2.5m is peanuts to us. I'd rather we get a good fee.
 
I'm uneasy about this one, would've preferred a loan. I think I just have it in the back of my mind that he is a very talented player and that it'll be a shame if we let him go and he goes on to become a top player. I would want to see him play a consistent run of games though as I don't feel LVG's system reflected his abilities. He's definitely not going to get that chance here though, so I guess we'll have to see what he does elsewhere.
 
I see the BBC have been busy inflating the fee we paid for him again.

Not content to be wrong in the first place they've now added an extra couple of million to the price in Sportday today.
 
Yes but if we're haggling over this sort of money then I'd rather let him go now. The club paid over the odds, and must face that his value is greatly depriciated.

But if we are to keep him, I would at least like to see him have his chance

The market has also inflated, if West Ham, Watford, Crystal Palace etc are throwing around £20m, then we can get a good fee.
 
For the principle of it if nothing else. We need to start setting a precedent of only letting players go on good offers.

I agree and I think Mourinho is starting to bed that in, some players (Rooney/Schweinsteiger etc) are much more difficult to ship, but a 22 y/o Dutch International winger with PL and Europa experience, and people think it's acceptable to sell him for £15m? Not a chance.
 
I see the BBC have been busy inflating the fee we paid for him again.

Not content to be wrong in the first place they've now added an extra couple of million to the price in Sportday today.
:lol: What are they up to now, £33m?
 
BBC have us down as paying £31m for him. That can't be right surely?

They always inflate transfer fees, it's weird.

As for Depay I can only remember him playing well in 2 Premiership games. He was good away at Watford and scored a nice goal, and he was decent at home to Arsenal in the Rashford game. Other than that I don't think he ever impressed domestically.
 
13 million is a decent fee i think.. he is just not very good and whilst still young and he may develop i would be shocked if we got more than 15 for him.
 
BBC have us down as paying £31m for him. That can't be right surely?

They always inflate transfer fees, it's weird.

As for Depay I can only remember him playing well in 2 Premiership games. He was good away at Watford and scored a nice goal, and he was decent at home to Arsenal in the Rashford game. Other than that I don't think he ever impressed domestically.

Don't forget the game against Midgetland in the Europa where he played like Georgie Best.
 
I see the BBC have been busy inflating the fee we paid for him again.

Not content to be wrong in the first place they've now added an extra couple of million to the price in Sportday today.

One thing that constantly surprises me is the inability of sports journalists to distinguish between euros and pounds. It raises some questions about their intelligence.
 
BBC have us down as paying £31m for him. That can't be right surely?

They always inflate transfer fees, it's weird.

That's what they've claimed since the beginning, despite many sources (including PSV themselves as I remember) confirming a significantly lower figure in the mid-£20 millions IIRC. But the BBC refuse to correct this, so on they go making themselves look worse than even the tabloids for their drama :lol:
 
Mourinho gave an update:

“The offer we had is far from being reasonable for us, so at the moment he is out player,” said Mourinho.
“At the end of the month, if nothing has happened, then he's an option for us.”
 
I agree and I think Mourinho is starting to bed that in, some players (Rooney/Schweinsteiger etc) are much more difficult to ship, but a 22 y/o Dutch International winger with PL and Europa experience, and people think it's acceptable to sell him for £15m? Not a chance.

Agree. you pay more for pedigree. You have young lads joining Utd academy knowing that probably they won't get anyway near the first team yet they know Utd on their CV means they will be picked up elsewhere just cause they have been football educated here. Depay has had that privilege to be here, coached by the best, played with the best and that counts for something as oppose to signing him from Burnley.

25m or he stays for me....
 
I am surprised anyone is willing to pay £10m for him.

Have they seen him play??

They must attribute some of his shocking performances to low self confidence which is true after all. It's not clear what his ceiling is as of now, might well prove it worth for Lyon.
 
Because he hasn't played well enough for us obviously.
But at his age and in a new country it's a very very small amount of games to completely write a player off as the majority on here have done.

I think the problem is the absolute lack of hope in his performances. He hasn't had good games but struggled for consistency, or shown flashes of brilliance. He's shown almost nothing at all. Based on performances at United, I honestly couldn't tell you anything he's good at. There must be something about him to have had all that success in Holland, but I don't think we'll ever see it in England.
 
Agree. you pay more for pedigree. You have young lads joining Utd academy knowing that probably they won't get anyway near the first team but they know Utd on their CV means they will be picked up elsewhere just cause they have been football educated here. Depay has had that privilege to be here, coached by the best, played with the best and that counts for something as oppose to signing him from Burnley.

25m or he stays for me....
So if someone doesn't pay an unreasonable fee of £25m we should keep a player we don't want and keep paying him £120k a week, meaning we actually keep losing money by keeping a player we don't want. Great business plan, you should open a shop and charge 25% more than everyone else, and when no one wants to buy your overpriced crap you get to keep all your stock. Win win!
 
So if someone doesn't pay an unreasonable fee of £25m we should keep a player we don't want and keep paying him £120k a week, meaning we actually keep losing money by keeping a player we don't want. Great business plan, you should open a shop and charge 25% more than everyone else, and when no one wants to buy your overpriced crap you get to keep all your stock. Win win!

It's not that simple. Market trends dictate the price, and you sell at market value.
In the PL you've got Bournemouth spending £16m on Ibe (inexperienced, youth) and Everton spending £30m on Bolasie (PL experienced, in his peak) all play the exact same position at Depay. Add his international credentials, United experience, and previous highs at PSV you'll find that somewhere in the middle of those two values is a fair price. £22-25m.

Plus he's on ~£90k not quite sure why the fee keeps rising.
 
So if someone doesn't pay an unreasonable fee of £25m we should keep a player we don't want and keep paying him £120k a week, meaning we actually keep losing money by keeping a player we don't want. Great business plan, you should open a shop and charge 25% more than everyone else, and when no one wants to buy your overpriced crap you get to keep all your stock. Win win!

Heres a revelation for you, every single team in this league as a player they don't want and sooner sell. I guess you were the one who thought it was a great business plan to let Pogba walk out the door for a mil. That aside, we aren't selling him because of the money, we aren't looking down the back of the sofa for change, it will make no difference to us financially whether he stays or not as if that's the case, you might as well sell Young et al too who's on 120k a week.

We are selling him cause he's not good enough but that doesn't mean like so many of the players we sold including the likes of Welbeck, we should give them away.....
 
There is no way in hell we are getting anything close to 25million for Depay. It's pointless comparing it to the Bolasie transfer - Bolasie, as limited as he is, had had a good season and was arguably his team's most valuable player, so of course his fee would be inflated. Depay has barely kicked a ball for us this season, is publicly surplus to requirements and was poor last season too.
 
I hope Mourinho telling the media that Depay becoming an option if he isn't sold is just keeping him on the market. Nobody would want to up their bidding on a player who won't even play.

Besides, do we honestly expect that Mourinho would use Depay if he's not sold this month? Barring injuries, he'd be lucky to make the bench!
 
He is a Priority transfer target for Lyon this winter transfer window as per their coach/manager and you don't pay 13 millions for a priority signing. Pay anything north of 18 mil and take home the priority signing.
 
I'd imagine somewhere between 15-20m should do the trick, bearing in mind of course that the buying club would also have to absorb his wages.
 
Nothing to say we can't get 18m plus add-ons that amount to around 25m.
 
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