Bids coming from outside of EPL will always be lower unless we're talking China here plus, to be fair, Bolasie showed about 100 times more than Depay did in EPL so no wonder he will cost more.
Memphis Depay | Lyon player
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Bids coming from outside of EPL will always be lower unless we're talking China here plus, to be fair, Bolasie showed about 100 times more than Depay did in EPL so no wonder he will cost more.
Oh don't get me wrong I agree with you're assessment of his ability; I think his big problem here is he's shit.
But there seems to be a sentiment that he's somehow shown some talent, or potential or something (that even our fans seems to believe at times), that we should be looking to cash in on.
Whilst I agree he's been a disappointment, that's a bit unfair. For example, he was great against Brugge in the Champions League and a few other European games. I actually think we should loan him, too much potential to bin him.
Indeed, hence selling to an English club would be ideal. Bolasie has had a greater impact in the Premier League, no doubt about that, but he's still a relentlessly average player that has cost an absolute fortune. Factoring in Depay's age, it's very possible he can go on to be a better player than Bolasie, so I think we should be searching for a good fee.
I think like Adnan, his attitude is his biggest problem. Not sure he can handle the pressure.
I think we should at least be looking for twentyish million.
Can you think of a PL side who actually wants him, though? Everton, who were probably the ones we'd have banked on being interested, have dropped £22m on Schneiderlin and £11m on forward Ishak Belfodil. Looking around at the mid-table region of the table: West Brom were low-balling for Schneiderlin and would probably do the same for Memphis, he doesn't seem a signing that Bournemouth or Saints would make, Stoke are somewhat stacked with wide attackers, and West Ham will probably prefer unrealistic bids for Lacazette and Benzema, or something.
Then honestly, I don't think you've paying much attention to him during his time at United if you think Memphis Depay is ambitious and deteremined to play at a big club. He may desire to, for any number reasons not the least of which are his wages, but up to this point hasn't shown it on the pitch in his opportunities or in training well enough to make the manager put him in the squad.
10-15m is probably about right given how little he has shown for us.
At least with Schneiderlin you know he has performed in the PL and of course Koeman knew him well.
At least with Schneiderlin you know he has performed in the PL and of course Koeman knew him well.
Looks like Lyon's bid is much less than £15m and the other clubs only want him on loan. What a shite transfer this has been.
It's really difficult to make a case for anyone offering a decent figure for him.
At the same time, hes 22, and he has shown he can do it in Europa League matches and the dutch league and its January, where players arent readily available as they would be in Summer. (not sure how long his contract was, but say it was 4 years, hes only really done 1 and a half of it).
If we do have a set figure for letting him go, its nice were looking to keep it rather than just getting rid at the first bid.
At 22, he would still be bought for potential rather than finished article.
Every manager always says that he is one of the hardest working players (also Mourinho), and on the pitch he hasn't been playing well. Not sure what on the pitch performance has to do with attitude just because you play badly. That has more to do with skill...
If that's the case, we should definitely be using him as a bargaining chip for either Tolisso or Lacazette. In this market, when Ibe is going for £15m, we should be holding out for more. Maybe player+cash deal would be more palatable to Jose.
Indeed, you know what you're going to get from Schneiderlin when at the right club and played week in week out anyone signing Memphis at this point has no idea what they're signing, he's just as likely to flop there as he is to regain his PSV form and scoring boots
20m would be a fair asking price I think. We'll get around 18m for him.
Said the rejected bid from Lyon was £13m
Just throw him out the door and take the number 7 back, then post it to Griezmann
None of the dutch clubs interested in him?
Doesn't Cocu want him back?
Jeez. 13m ffs.
Doesn't Cocu want him back?
Jeez. 13m ffs.
I'll take the 18m and run. He's been turned into a meme since he joined us.
Although 13m is low, the quicker we offload him, the quicker we can use the money from his wages on someone good.
Rejecting £13m for that waster? Wouldn't be surprised if Lyon walk away. His value certainly isn't going to increase between now and the summer.
No more bargains for other teams-good.
Ibe earns substantailly less than Depay so using him as a yardstick is naive. If both players were signed for £15m over 5 year periods you'd be paying nearly double for Depay (and given the latter's penchant for the finer things in life there's no way he takes a cut for the good of his career.).
Not only that but Depay's salary puts him out of the wage structure of the majority of clubs. He'd be a top earner at the likes of Spurs or Everton and for a club like that has he really performed well enough to be among their top earners? I'd go further to be honest and say there'd be animosity in the dressing room for a club like that bringing him in as a top earner despite his (poor) performances.
If we want anything like £20+m then we have to pray for a Chinese club.
I personally thought we'd try to tie the Depay/Schneiderlin deals to Everton together. Maybe ask for £37.5m for the pair, knowing how much they needed a proven central midfielder and with Bolasie's injury they may have been desperate enough to go for it.
£13m for a shit player who we don't want can hardly be considered a bargain.
Hopefully we get around £18m for him which would be fair.
Then that'll be £40m from him and Morgan that we can put into the Jordan Henderson dream fund
Then that'll be £40m from him and Morgan that we can put into the Jordan Henderson dream fund
I don't think Memphis is the type to sit on a contract. With the club playing hard ball he'd eventually reduce his salary request to get minutes on the pitch.
With the Schneiderlin deal hitting £24m with bonuses, accepting £13m for Depay would pretty much get us to that figure of £37.5m. I think you're right about the total figure though. I suspect if Lyon up the bid by a couple of million we'll get the deal done.
It's their opening offer, clearly. Imagine we'll see a deal done for something like 15-17M plus several add-ons.
Have an odd feeling he'll end up staying, and given some minutes as Jose suggested. Unlike Morgan, he has never really proven himself beyond the dutch league, and with Jose not playing him it's not surprising that clubs are reluctant to pay a premium for him.
Guy must be feeling pretty shit right now. Absolutely nobody wants him, like the last pick in a school football game.
I guess I'm the only one that doesn't want him sold. I think he can fit into our current style of play and given a run of games he might actually achieve what we thought when we originally bought him. I know the majority think otherwise but I just have this feeling about him.
Surprised West Ham aren't going for him.
I've always wanted him to do well, but I've lost patience.
In the chances he had been given (subs and starts), he had put in less than average performances. You really need to seize your opportunities at united. I've seen others argue for more game time to prove his worth, but the wide attacking roles are probably the most competitive (centre back coming close) at the club. The others have seized their chance after spells out and Memphis has failed to do that.
His confidence is shot and it's time to get rid due to the money he is on. I'd take 17million for him, but with performance related add on's that push it into the low 20s. No harm in sticking a % profit clause in there either in the event of a resale
That feeling is called blind hope. It's the same feeling people get when buying a scratch card, then inevitably end up disappointed. Depay is a disappointing scratch card.
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