The Mendy accusations were also quite credible
Mbappe accused of rape at nightclub
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Out of how many players he managed?
A lot can go wrong with regards to one party wanting to be vindictive if they're no longer together etc. You pretty much have to just trust the person you're with but even then people change. There's just so much that can go wrong but I understand why it's necessary.
The argument with that would be if the person is in a state to give consent. Obtaining/giving consent is a must but there's a lot that can depend solely on one person's words against the other. It's a fine line.
You know exactly what I mean. People can make innocent mistakes in an intimate moment, not everyone is a rapist. Throw in some alcohol and young people could very easily end up in a lot of trouble, you need to be 100% on the ball for every moment of your life at this point.
Im not really sure there exists a manager: player ratio of sexual misdemeanours.
Rape is a different game, but adultery has to be rife
Young, fit and filthy rich boys and men in a macho environment it's 100% the norm and being faithful is probably an outlier
It's a strange one, legally consent is generally well(or fairly) defined it's basically a free agreement that isn't based on coercion and without impaired abilities. Now the issue with free agreement in the context of a nightclub is that you can't give free agreement while under the influence of drugs or alcohol, if one party regretted their one night stand by the letter of the law, they could claim that they weren't in a position to consent and press charges. Now as far as I know, I don't think that there are many precedents, what is likely to happen is that the accused party will eventually walk free but with a tarnished reputation.
And having thousands if not millions of girls throwing themselves at them. On top of just being able to say they've been there.
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Sure it's normally implicit, but some people are suggesting consent has to be explicitly sought in Sweden. A lot of scenarios then sound Partridge-esque: 'do you consent to me having penetrative sex with you?'
That is sweden…
I actually had a meeting a few years ago where that question was literally advised. Later when discussing that topic in a private setting all the women said that it would be a turnoff and creepy.
Didn't his Fergie's son beat up his wife too? Darren that is.
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People don't go around accusing other people of rape because they regretted something
Actually its happened quite a lot
Its not rape though and rape also happens a lot
Giggs' son is already married?!
Yeah? Where?
It was my understanding in the lift, that no money would change hands.
Mendy case?
Most don't.
Most people also don't rape other people.
But both things happen sometimes.
Possible, Giggs is 50
What about it?
False accusations of rape?
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It happens, it's one of the reason behind some false accusations. Though as far as I know, it's also linked to someone else reacting to it shaming, mocking, criticizing and things of that nature.
I actually know someone that did that but she quickly told the truth.
They were false?
Put yourself through an invasive medical check up, a police interrogation, potentially a lenghty legal process, likely on "he said/she said" basis, open yourself potentially to a suit or countersuit, all because you regretted having sex with someone? I'm sure it happens, there's 8 billion people and some of them are that mentally unwell. I'm also quite sure the number of such cases, especially going anywhere without the accuser quickly confessing they're making it up, is about as frequent as spotting unicorns
Pretty much every study ever conducted came to the conclusion that actual false rape accusations are incredibly rare
I can imagine. It sounds so clinical and jarring.
Is this the time we change the title to "Mbappe rape allegations, but mostly PSG conspiracies and Swedish intercourse laws" ?
As we know essentially nothing about the actual incident it's the only thing we can discuss here
Yes
I always find it weird when people find the topic of consent "difficult" or "complicated", but maybe I've just been lucky with my partners (i.e. @Snowjoe)
I would imagine so.
Conversely, there's ways of asking for explicit consent throughout the act that aren't a turn-off or creepy, asking for affirmation and so on. Of course if you put it in the terms "do you agree to my erect penis penetrating you?", it's a turn-off.
Most false accustions don't involve medical check up, police interrogation or any lenghty legal process.
Now I find your last sentence interesting, how is the rate of false rape accusations determined? Rape itself is difficult to prove which makes prosecution difficult, so how anyone determines that a false accusation is incredibly rare?
Yes, he was found not guilty. Unfortunately A LOT of rape cases end with that verdict, because actually proving it is often difficult
Doesn't mean the accusations - from multiple different women - were false
@giorno whats the news out of Madrid?
Of course, the point was about the formal questions which are somehow advised but are actually counterproductive. Truth be told I have never had any of the issues that people often mention, innuendos, flirting and reprocity work for nearly everyone. At least that's my experience.
Training ground property prices through the roof.
Because they get dismissed immediately out of hand, because there's no evidence of wrong doing and the accuser's story is not believable
www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-45565684.amp
not quite as rare as I remembered
We've established that giorno is a fake Madrileño recently. I can tell you it's been an unfashionably rainy day here.
Same here, yeah. I mean with the women I've been, there have been some for various reasons (cultural, notably) who found it slightly strange that I would ask these things, but never to the point where it was a turn-off.
On that I did had a woman ask me if I was gay when after flirting with her friend I decided to not go further because we were both drunk. I know that this one is weird for a lot of people.
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This actually happens frequently. I've worked as a corrections officer for many years and you'd be surprised to know how many are in custody for months or even years for being falsely accused. It isn't usually because the accuser regrets having sex, but it has happened because they have felt extreme shame or have been under the influence of drugs and consented to things they may not have done sober.