For a period of 6 weeks leading up to the January window they had no strikers with both Aguero and Dzeko missing almost every minute of the games vs Everton/Leicester/Palace/WBA/Burnley/Sunderland and Jovetic managing only 90mins throughout those games, it was one of the main reasons they went in for Bony. So those stats are heavily influenced by what was available to Pellegrini and not what he actually prefers to play.
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In the latest episode of the United Hour Podcast, Nik (@Rood) and Imran (@Annihilate Now!) are here to discuss Amad saving our blushes in a win against Southampton as well as our now annual loss at home to Brighton. They discuss Amorim's post-match comments, revisit how mid-table we may or may not be, and discuss some transfer news.
For a period of 6 weeks leading up to the January window they had no strikers with both Aguero and Dzeko missing almost every minute of the games vs Everton/Leicester/Palace/WBA/Burnley/Sunderland and Jovetic managing only 90mins throughout those games, it was one of the main reasons they went in for Bony. So those stats are heavily influenced by what was available to Pellegrini and not what he actually prefers to play.
The German reports make it seem like Dortmund will sell for around £30m, he's available if United want him. I think he'll be at United next season unless he decides to stay at Dortmund with Klopp now leaving. Hopefully he will come & return to his brilliant form from a few years ago.
You know it's on when The Times are getting involved 
Feels like window already opened, especially after Klopp's 'Auf Wiedersehen'.
I think the chances of him coming here are lower than before. With a new manager, he could stay there or leave and follow Klopp.
Before Klopp himself acknowledged he's good enough for United or before player admitted that he's thinking about United ?
Here's a summary of what the stuff behind the paywall says (thanks to @Remix):
- 21 players who were around Fergie's first-team squad have left Old Trafford since he retired
- Ten more departures this summer expected, bringing the number up to 30ish (Lindegaard, Amos, Rafael, possibly Evans, Cleverley, Powell, Nani, Hernandez, Henriquez, Will Keane... also doubts over de Gea and Pereira)
- van Gaal targeting 4+ players, with club keen to tie up business early
- Central midfielder remains priority signing but LVG has changed targets after Strootman has been ruled out for the season
- United also in market for an established striker, with Falcao's loan move set to end as just that and van Persie's uncertain future
It could be the case that Hummels' decision to leave is one of the reasons Klopp is leaving too. It's no secret that Klopp has continuously lost all of his best players when other teams come calling, it could be that his captain leaving too is the final straw in an already disastrous season
I don't understand why so many are thinking that Klopp and Hummels have a special relationship.
Before Klopp saying that he would leave.
they have a good relationship, i just think if he goes to City, Hummels could follow him. Now he has the possibility to stay tooband work with another manager. He has more options than before Klopps departure.
So he has a good relationship with the manger that's leaving and may follow him to his new Club, but on the other hand he may stay at the Club because the manager he has a good relationship is leaving?
It changes very little.
Yeah I was just going to say the same. I think he'll leave, but not necessarily follow Klopp.
Is he better than Duncan Edwards V.2 though?
Hummels, Delay, Clyne. That's already a big improvement to our selection. I hope all 3 of them happen.
I'm not so keen on him. Sure he can find his best form again but he is injury prone and I'm not sure if he reaches that level again he once had
Hummels is a fantastic passer. He oozed class a few years back. However, he's had a dip in form over the course of the season. He's also injury prone. I've now changed my mind and think he might not be suitable for the pace in which games are played in England.
We definitely need an experienced calming influence at centre of defence. I can't seem to pinpoint anyone at the moment.
We definitely need an experienced calming influence at centre of defence. I can't seem to pinpoint anyone at the moment.
That Dortmund side at it's peak, played at a pace and tempo that no team in England can match at the moment. Hummels would be fine.
He loves the club, nothing to do with Klopp. Now a new challenge presents itself, that could be something he would like to be a part of. I am just saying that if he left, we had a very good chance. Now the club where Klopp signs could be a potential destination too, which previously wouldnt have that charme. Plus the option with a new future at his current club changes the situation again than previously. I dont say it changes a lot and he wont come to us, but it could play a small role. I dont see our chances better than before Klopps announcement.
There's no clear indication that after that kind of season where Klopp clearly lost almost entire dressing room and literally gave up few days ago, Hummels would jump in the fire wherever he'll go.
I also have doubts that Klopp has belief for majority of his players. He's taking a break now and he may start something completely new somewhere else while LVG constantly knocking at the door from first days of his work here with confidence about the player.
City is a transfer rival, I can't deny that but our interest is way more serious with typical United's patient pproach. Safe to say we probably have pole position if Hummels will decide to leave. There's simply more signs of that happening while we can't even tell for sure where will Klopp end after that kind of season.
I'm not trying to say I'm more right then wrong but if Klopp really heading to City then I'll definitely redefine my thoughts about the whole case.
I would have actually preferred Godin over Hummels but I think we already got Hummels and Im happy with that.
30m for Hummels, 22-25m for Depay and 15-18m for Clyne?
The Times article on Hummels reckoned 'in excess of £25m' for Hummels. So presumably £25-30m.
Edit - Just found the whole times article on reddit. It says "Nonetheless, they are likely to demand more than €45 million (about £32 million) for Hummels."
The matches in Germany are as much fast paced as in England. And anyway, BVB have been playing this high pressure football, with high defense before it was cool to do so, and Hummels flourished on that system. I don't think that his lack of pace will be a problem, especially if he gets partnered with Smalling who is quite quick (with Shaw and Clyne being very fast).
We've mad a £22m (30m €) offer for him according to Sport Bild
Sport Bild isn't always reliable but if true then it's good at least something happening.....although Dortmund want surely at least £30m for him.
Sport Bild isn't always reliable but if true then it's good at least something happening.....although Dortmund want surely at least £30m for him.
Would be massive if we tied up Hummels and Depay before the summer and sign them the day the window opens.
If we sign our 5 targets before July that's going to seriously put a dent in my holiday plans.
Hope we get both Hummels AND Gundogan. Two birds one stone and all.
Gundogan is one of the most injury-prone players in football - he has played roughly 75 league matches in 4 years - he is NOT what I want regardless of how talented he is
To be fair that statistic is skewed by the fact that he missed over a year because of his back injury which seems to be comepletely healed now after a successful operation. But yeah there will be a question mark on his injury record, still think its worth a gamble for the price quoted.
Going to be a boring summer I'm afraid. Exciting in June, but what will we do in July and august? Be anti muppets and hope we don't sign players so we don't disrupt the squad too much?
Seriously though, I think we'll get depay, clyne and Hummels very early in the window. The others might drag out a little because those 3 seem like main priority and seems like all the work has been done, while we don't even know which striker and midfielder we will really go for.
Do Dortmund tend to announce player sales early? I read a post on here about them being a public company, so if they sell Hummels to us, it will hopefully just be a quick deal?
If indeed contracts are signed then afaik they are bound to release that info via an ad-hoc message.
These reports all came from Van Gaal taking the piss, pulling out a sheet of paper announcing he's going to sign all these players for 30+ million. I wouldn't put any stock in it at all.
Have you already booked your tour of Europe taking in Germany, Holland, Turin, Madrid and the south coast of England?