Seems vaguely similar then... Which isn't ideal!
Mats Hummels
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Not sure the number of appearances always tell the full story, mind. You could make a lot of appearances while still being hampered by the sort of niggling on/off injuries that prevent you from reaching your best or stop a back four from getting a settled run together.
Yeah, and Germany have the winter break so he has that luxury to recuperate if he's ever injured around that timeframe.
It's the decline in his fitness and form over the last couple of seasons that is concerning.
Going back four or five years these problems were non-existent and the only negative mark against him was how slow he was. But he started missing games in 12/13 and it got worse the following season. He played the world cup with tendonitis in his knee and almost missed the final after having to go off at HT in the semis. Same knee problems have meant he's missed a lot of this season as well. Maybe the tendonitis is still there and that's why his performances have been so bad this year.
Going back four or five years these problems were non-existent and the only negative mark against him was how slow he was. But he started missing games in 12/13 and it got worse the following season. He played the world cup with tendonitis in his knee and almost missed the final after having to go off at HT in the semis. Same knee problems have meant he's missed a lot of this season as well. Maybe the tendonitis is still there and that's why his performances have been so bad this year.
Fitness issues can be overcome. Van Gaal and his man Jos Van Dijk worked wonders with Robben after he came from Madrid fragile as glass. You can attribute it to their superstar doctor (who recently resigned), but fact is no matter how good the player's doctor is, the training methods and conditioning goes a long way in sustaining a player's healthy career.
The start of the season saw a lot of injuries and it's become obvious now that Van Gaal's extra hard training methods were diffcult to adjust to for the boys. Physically demanding as well with those double sessions.
Though, since Tony Strudwick has been moved along we've seen a markedly improved situation don't you think? Even during Sir Alex's last years we saw a huge number of injuries. That was when we started playing Carrick at CB.
Hummels will be fine I think. He's had a World Cup year and that extra toll on his body and mind have sometimes been too much for him. A good summer break later, he'll be just fine. Seeing as how our teams have started to dominate opponents, the work load has been significantly lessened for the CB's. Jones and Smalling were uninjured for a while, until Jones "injured himself" as Van Gaal put it. It's not inconceivable as Jones tends to put his body through hell sometimes.
Hummels is far more economical and will fit in perfectly into our methods and systems. He plays a similar set-up with Germany and so he should be our top target. Great defender and great experience. Proven winner.
The start of the season saw a lot of injuries and it's become obvious now that Van Gaal's extra hard training methods were diffcult to adjust to for the boys. Physically demanding as well with those double sessions.
Though, since Tony Strudwick has been moved along we've seen a markedly improved situation don't you think? Even during Sir Alex's last years we saw a huge number of injuries. That was when we started playing Carrick at CB.
Hummels will be fine I think. He's had a World Cup year and that extra toll on his body and mind have sometimes been too much for him. A good summer break later, he'll be just fine. Seeing as how our teams have started to dominate opponents, the work load has been significantly lessened for the CB's. Jones and Smalling were uninjured for a while, until Jones "injured himself" as Van Gaal put it. It's not inconceivable as Jones tends to put his body through hell sometimes.
Hummels is far more economical and will fit in perfectly into our methods and systems. He plays a similar set-up with Germany and so he should be our top target. Great defender and great experience. Proven winner.
Not if you think we normally play 60 games a season except for this odd blip (no champs league, league cup). They look like an injured players stats.
Not watching the game, but just seen a few comments on the Bayern/BVB thread that Hummels was poor (again) on the Bayern goal.
Anyone got a GIF?
Anyone got a GIF?
The football highlights twitter account or whatever? It wasn't him, not sure why they said it. Think it was more sokratis (only saw a little video though, not sure).
Cheers. Not as bad as I thought really. He tries to cover the angle for the pass across to Muller, and ends up looking a bit stupid, when it gets rolled in exactly where he was standing.
The criticism was that he's sleeping and playing Lewandowski onside. Should have moved forward and put both Müller and Lewandowski offside for Benatia's pass.
Thats a fair cop actually, I was concentrating on the actual goal, looking for an obvious mistake.
Looking at it again, its incredibly lazy. All he has to do it step up and they're both offside.
He's looked hefty and sluggish tonight.
Maybe he just wants out. This is his way of showing it. Lescott did the same when he wanted to move to City.
I have to say, he looks like a terrible captain, and a pretty bad defender.
He is very good on the ball, mind.
He is very good on the ball, mind.
Given the way LvG likes to set up his sides to play possession football with a high line, we need defenders who are quick, strong and difficult to beat one-on-one. I don't watch Hummels enough to say whether he's decent at defending counter-attacks, but the Bayern game isn't doing his case any favours. Would he really have helped in the defeats against Everton or Chelsea? Not on today's form, imo.
Jones and Smalling are fantastic one-on-one defenders. Unless we can get a superior player in a similar mould, I don't want us to break up the partnership.
Jones and Smalling are fantastic one-on-one defenders. Unless we can get a superior player in a similar mould, I don't want us to break up the partnership.
ive been saying this for a long time now.. Otamnedi should be the priority not hummels. just not the right kind of player. great at passing the ball but not great defensively.
If he raced with Daley Blind I think they would both lose.
The problem is, we absolutely can't rely on them to stay fit for even 3/4 of a season. They'll inevitably get injured (probably at the same time) at some point.
We definitely need another centre back this Summer. I just don't think that centre back should be Hummels, despite his ability on the ball. He's just not good enough defensively, nor do I think he's suited to the pace, intensity and physicality of the PL.
Otamendi would certainly suit the PL better, and he's a better defender, but I don't think he'd be a particularly good partner for either Rojo or Jones. We need a leader, someone to 'control' the defence and bring calmness to proceedings.
Because he is hefty and sluggish.
Not sure how people can say Hummels was sloppy for the goal? He went to go mark Muller who was clearly free; if the ball reached him then he would have been in a much better position to cover.
Should have expected the other defender to stop it. The offside trap was entirely his fault if that's what people refer to.....
Should have expected the other defender to stop it. The offside trap was entirely his fault if that's what people refer to.....
Agreed that it shouldn't be Hummels.
We're in the process of turning into Arsenal at the moment. The lesson to learn from that is that the only decent sides Wenger ever produced had Campbell, Adams, Keown, etc. in defence. It's all well and good to shoehorn your 'philosophy' everywhere on the pitch, but sometimes you need to swallow your pride and play a clogger or two in the backline. L'Arse haven't achieved anything since the old guard left.
Our soft underbelly is that we keep getting hit on the counter and that needs to be addressed with someone who's suited to the role.
We're in the process of turning into Arsenal at the moment. The lesson to learn from that is that the only decent sides Wenger ever produced had Campbell, Adams, Keown, etc. in defence. It's all well and good to shoehorn your 'philosophy' everywhere on the pitch, but sometimes you need to swallow your pride and play a clogger or two in the backline. L'Arse haven't achieved anything since the old guard left.
Our soft underbelly is that we keep getting hit on the counter and that needs to be addressed with someone who's suited to the role.
He played Lewandowski onside, that was his mistake. He didn't do anything wrong afterwards.
I thought he was at fault for the goal but otherwise played very well.
I thought Sokratis was also just as good if not better.
No, Kagawa fault for the goal, he was the player who gave the ball away,
Jesus alot of things happened after that what a stupid comment!
it was a simple pass Kagawa fecked it up, it's clearly his fault
You've gone full retard pull up.
Kagawa played a weak throughball at the edge of our penalty box, which was intercepted by Benatia. Hardly a huge mistake from an attacking midfielder. It happens all the time. Hummels fell asleep and played both Lewandowski and Müller onside, so that one long ball from a centerback took the whole Dortmund defense out of the game and Lewandowski was one on one with the goalkeeper. That's pretty shit from a centerback, no way around it.
I'd add that I thought it was actually a reasonably clever through ball intended for Reus in a position in which he's deadly, but Benatia played it brilliantly, helping to cover a player running central (I think Aubameyang) and then at the last second cutting wide to pick off the pass, which was disguised.
It was a pretty brilliant play by Benatia more than a screw up by Kagawa. 9/10 that comes off.
Yeah, Benatia read the situation brilliantly and then executed a perfect pass. It wasn't a careless and silly loss of possession somewhere in midfield from Kagawa at all, it was a perfectly normal attack with the final ball not reaching the forward.
Hummels was always a bit slow, I don't know why everyone's noticing this now.
I came in here to read Hummels reviewed by NoPace. This Tranfer Forum is always on the money.
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Is Dortmund's lose max one player per season policy the clubs, or Klopp's?
Is Dortmund's lose max one player per season policy the clubs, or Klopp's?
The club's if you ask me. I still think both could leave if they want to and a good offer comes in for Hummels.
As I said in another thread, huge question marks over him (and Gundogan). We have has beens up front already, if we start adding in other areas with players who haven't produced their best for a couple of years we take a risk of heading in the wrong direction as a team.