Mathys Tel

I am all for talent but I wouldn‘t promise him game time. Doesn‘t look like a striker who would improve us on loan.

We are currently very dependend on the striker to hold up the ball to move in the final third.
 
Genuinely no idea why anyone would want him here. Feel like I'm missing something..?
 
How did he play tonight ?
Had two big chances in the first half. First one was a header that the keeper did very well to save, second one a shot he squandered into the side netting after being cleanly through on goal after a Kimmich pass. Other than that he sure looked like he was trying, but was overall not getting or creating great scenes, all in all a rather mediocre performance I'd say. Was subbed off after an hour together with Mueller and Boey for Coman, Musiala and Gnabry respectively, after which Bayern's attack looked a fair bit more lively.
 
We make good deal with Bayern this summer so we may have a avantage but it’s up to the player now..
I won't say no to his coming to compete with Hojlund on attack for the rest of the season.
 
I’ve watched him a few times because I enjoy watching Bayern. Didn’t get to watch him tonight though.

I think he’d be a decent option to add to our attack since we’re light on numbers, but I wouldn’t expect him to pull trees. A loan makes sense, I’d be hesitant to spend any sizeable chunk of money on him for a permanent deal.

I also would prefer a Nkunku loan if we can make that happen.
 
In the previous games I watched of him, he reminded me of Greenwood. Fast but not the greatest dribbler, but seemed to have the natural instincts to take the shot when it presents itself. So basically the opposite of our current strikers.

Would add something different to our team; especially if we can get a loan with an option.
 
In the previous games I watched of him, he reminded me of Greenwood. Fast but not the greatest dribbler, but seemed to have the natural instincts to take the shot when it presents itself. So basically the opposite of our current strikers.

Would add something different to our team; especially if we can get a loan with an option.

Yeah we have definitely lacked that instinct type finisher in this team since ahem Greenwood
 
You mean apart from David Ornstein confirming that we are interested?


You'll be surprised to find we are vaguely interested in a lot of players. Does not mean we'll move for them or can afford them.

In any case I think Amorim has been promised a big striker in the summer, which makes signing him redundant given we have those two as first team strikers already.
 
How much do Bayern want for him exactly? They paid around 30m euros so I imagine most if not all of their money back.

Even if he doesn't end up at United he's wise to avoid Chelsea when the priority is game time.

Maybe we can get a loan with an option to buy. He'd almost certainly get a lot of game time from now until the end of the season so both parties could assess then.
 
Given he doesn’t score that many goals, hopefully were in for him with a loan with option to buy proposition. We can’t stock up on strikers who aren’t prolific.

He does seem explosive in the clips which is great because we lack that upfront. Why isn’t his scoring record good btw? Is his movement lacking like Hojlund’s?
 
Given he doesn’t score that many goals, hopefully were in for him with a loan with option to buy proposition. We can’t stock up on strikers who aren’t prolific.

He does seem explosive in the clips which is great because we lack that upfront. Why isn’t his scoring record good btw? Is his movement lacking like Hojlund’s?
His runs aren't that great this season and he seems to lack a bit of strength. Probably not the end of the world at his age, but really questionable that's what we need at the moment
 
You'll be surprised to find we are vaguely interested in a lot of players. Does not mean we'll move for them or can afford them.

In any case I think Amorim has been promised a big striker in the summer, which makes signing him redundant given we have those two as first team strikers already.
I’m going to believe Ornstein over you.
 
You'll be surprised to find we are vaguely interested in a lot of players. Does not mean we'll move for them or can afford them.

In any case I think Amorim has been promised a big striker in the summer, which makes signing him redundant given we have those two as first team strikers already.
How does a loan move for Tel affect our ability to sign a striker in the summer?
 
I hope that Bayern doesn't sell him. There's a player there, who needs to play regularly. Kompany hasn't even given him a fair chance tbh + the way Bayern play under Kompany, it feels like it doesn't benefit Tel at all. If you look at his stats from last year, he did really well for Bayern, when given the chance.
He should be loaned to a club with attacking mentality and where he can start most of the games. Sorry, but United is not it. If he says he wants United, i am kinda worried as i'd be very inclined to believe he wouldn't do any better than Hojlund for you guys. Confidence rock bottom probably right now and all the pressure to perform from the media can't do him any good. Fiorentina, Atlanta or something along these lines would be great(f.e Moise Kean cases) for him. Can't see him agreeing to play in Eredivisie, Ligue 1 maybe.
 
Musiala isn't a winger, Coman is injured or coming back from injury half the time, Gnabry and Sané are very far from being world class much of their time and are candidates for being sold, Mueller first of all plays not on the left and second has been declining so much that he's only a sub himself. That's your "world class performers". The only one who is actually looking class consistently you did not mention: Olise. Plays on the other wing, of course, but that did not stop you with Mueller either.
I can't take this post seriously:
1. Musiala for Bayern operates on both wings and at 10. Even for Germany! "He's not a winger" doesn't come into it! He is a proven performer there at the highest level who you are 'expecting" a teenage striker playing out of postion out wide to displace.
2. Sane, Gnabry, Muller and Coman are all proven wingers/wide attackers at the top level and experienced when fit & available. They are have all proven to be at a world class level in their careers. For you to look down on a teenaged, out of position striker not displacing them on the regular is baffling. Mind you things even got worse with the recruitment of Olise. (Who I'd forgot to mention) Some of these guys struggle to get on the team sheet on the regular. Yet here you are trying to paint it like Tel struggling too is some sort of football crime. Trying to diplace 6 proven performers on a regular. Doesn't matter the flank It's laughable....
[3. In Tel's natural postion Kane litteral plays all the time. When he doesn't the coach rightly goes for the experience of Muller and Gnabry in the false 9 role the coach likes to use which Tel isn't yet schooled in. Thus it's not that hard to understand either why his play time is limited. Frankly your entire stance is up there with coming along to rubbish an Endrick just because he can't get into Real Madrid's current attack of Mbappe, Vini Jr, Rodrygo, Diaz, Guler....on the regular. You're just being way too unrealistic.
 
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[B]1. Musiala for Bayern operates on both wings and at 10.Even for Germany. "Hs not a winger" doesn't come to it! He is a proven performer there at the highest level. Who you are expecting a teenage striker playing out of postion out wide to displace. [/B]
[FONT=Roboto, -apple-system, BlinkMacSystemFont, Segoe UI, Oxygen, Ubuntu, Cantarell, Fira Sans, Droid Sans, Helvetica Neue, sans-serif][SIZE=16px]2. Sane, Gnabry, Muller and Coman are all proven wingers/wide attackers at the top level and experienced when fit & available. They are have all proven to be at a world class level in their careers. For you to look down on a teenaged, out of position striker not displacing them on the regular is baffling. Mind you things even got worse with the recruitment of Olise. (Who I'd forgot to mention) Some of these guys struggle to get on the team sheet on the regular. Yet here you are trying to paint it like Tel struggling too is some sort of football crime. Trying to diplace 6 proven performers on a regular. Its laughable. [/SIZE][/FONT]
[FONT=Roboto, -apple-system, BlinkMacSystemFont, Segoe UI, Oxygen, Ubuntu, Cantarell, Fira Sans, Droid Sans, Helvetica Neue, sans-serif][SIZE=16px]3. In Tel's natural postion Kane litteral plays all the time. When he doesn't the coach rightly goes for the experience of Muller and Gnabry. So its not that hard to understand either why his play time is limited. Frankly you entire stance is up there with coming along to rubbish an Endricj because he can't get into Real Madrid's attack of Mbappe, Vini Jr , Rodrygo, Diaz , Guler....on the regular. [/SIZE][/FONT]
What's going on here?
 
Looks exciting, I know we are looking a loan, an option to buy would be good on that, have not seen anywhere how much Bayern are looking for on a perm deal
 
Only seen some compilations on him but would fit in the left 10 role. Our left side would be so much more progressive with him and Dorgu! Not sure what his work rate is like though but coming from BM I'd imagine it wouldn't be an issue. Absolutely worth a loan, especially with what Amorim said about Rashford yesterday - we're desperate for an explosive player on the left...
 
Loan with option to buy hopefully.

I think Chelsea, Spurs or whoever will offer something better though.
 
Genuinely no idea why anyone would want him here. Feel like I'm missing something..?

Because he's a decent player and our strikers are shit. For a loan, its a no brainer!
 
Because he's a decent player and our strikers are shit. For a loan, its a no brainer!
I've seen nothing to suggest he is any better than Zirkzee at present to be honest.
 
It's far from given that he's currently any better
Yeah I'm not sure where people are getting this from. He's young and talented, but hasn't really shown he's got enough to play up front in the Bundesliga yet, let alone the EPL!

We need numbers so I wouldn't be against it, but considering how down people are getting about signing a young LB, I'm somewhat surprised how enthusiastic people are about this. I'd much prefer us to loan an experienced striker who'd do a serviceable job and take the pressure off of Højlund.