Spurs are desperate and Levy wants to calm the fans
Mathys Tel
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Loan with an option to buy I'd take him but not sure what INEOS are planning
60m for an unproven player who wants to leave; come on spurs that's embarrassing even for that lot.
Don’t tell them, please.
I think he's a good talent but still has a big step to take to be a £50m player.
He very well could take that step but that is expensive for him.
He very well could take that step but that is expensive for him.
Spurs and hilarious go hand in hand!
Crazy fee. We shouldn't interfere at that price.
He should be worth more than Tel though so if Tel goes for €60m, then Garnacho should be in the €70-80m range.
60m to Spurs?
“C’est la vie” say the old folks, it goes to show you never can Tel.
“C’est la vie” say the old folks, it goes to show you never can Tel.
Better in tight spaces though, no?
Could be a good deal for them.
Sooner or later, time will Tel.
Kind of fitting that El Tel's son will go to Spurs to be fair.
Let Spurs blow the bag on this guy. We’ve got an attack of underwhelming, junior forwards who are struggling in a systematic club-wide way, a 19 year old who has zero goals this season isn’t fixing it.
All the moreso if the proviso is getting rid of Garnacho to get this guy.
All the moreso if the proviso is getting rid of Garnacho to get this guy.
Ah yeah, don't dispute that his value should be higher than Tel's but just that nobody was willing to pay 60mn for Garna last time I checked a couple of weeks ago so where has 80 come from.
Don't know what valuations are based on anymore - I love Tel as a prospect but €60mn for a wantaway striker who the club paid 30mn for and have not developed in that time is just nuts. The market has skewed too far the other way in its valuation of young prospects. Better to buy mid-20s players in most positions but unfortunately there's such a dearth of forwards now that the figures are insane for unproven or average footballers.
Yeah wouldn't want to lose Garnacho for him, unfortunately we seemingly can't shift Rashford
Yup for sure. There was a time when it made more sense to buy those, but now you're paying too much for risk and the peak age players are undervalued if anything relative to the young players, given they don't have the same risks.
Name the all prime years super proven goalscorers that are waiting in a line to join us atm.. I think we need to focus on talents more atm. Which I am not saying we have to break bank for Tel atm.
I know they are not the same characteristics as players but when 60m is the price for this guy, surely we can pony up 10m for Nypan?
Yeah I have noticed this recently. Feels like you're better off buying something closer to the finished article.
I often think it's because clubs will look at the total cost rather than just the transfer fee but Tel seems to be on €100k a week already.
That means that you're looking at a near £100m investment over a 6 year contract. For a good but not elite talent.
Wonder who is Ruben's preference out of him and Nkunku if they both were obtainable
Another defender ffs.
I just don't see the point of bringing in another young inconsistent attacker to join our other young inconsistent attackers.
But that's just me.
But that's just me.
I just had a look on the Spurs forum to see what they think about all this (a guilty pleasure of mine). There's a fella on there who thinks we signed Berbatov and Liverpool signed Robbie Keane back in the day, not because we wanted them - but because Spurs "with those two attackers were a big threat to them. So their buying tactics were designed to disrupt Spurs as much as possible". His actual words, verbatim.
A visit there every couple of months always delivers, but this one might be my favourite ever!
A visit there every couple of months always delivers, but this one might be my favourite ever!
I just had a look on the Spurs forum to see what they think about all this (a guilty pleasure of mine). There's a fella on there who thinks we signed Berbatov and Liverpool signed Robbie Keane back in the day, not because we wanted them - but because Spurs "with those two attackers were a big threat to them. So their buying tactics were designed to disrupt Spurs as much as possible". His actual words, verbatim.
A visit there every couple of months always delivers, but this one might be my favourite ever!
To be fair they are right. With key players like Michael Dawson, Jermaine Jenas and Pascal Chimbonda leading them to an 11th placed finish. Our side that won the league and champions league double were terrified.
I think most sensible people agree with you, at least not for €60m. He might well be worth that investment eventually, but at the moment it wouldn't be a wise spend.
I'd take him on loan as we could probably do with more bodies up there, but not if that meant losing Garnacho. We'd be weaker for the rest of the season if that happened.
We could do with a really good RWB though.
Mathys Tel plays for Bayern Munich. Not Bologna or Atalanta. Remember the other 2 Bayern rejects that walked into out team? Or the PSG reject that single handedly holds our midfield together?
This is a fantastic opportunity to grab a top young talent. INEOS should let Spurs do the hard yards of agreeing a fee and personal terms then match it and steal the player.
Professionalism and being a top player are two different things.
Again mitigating circumstances. We have good seasons where he plays well, you hope we are about to kick on and they buy players like Rasmus Hojlund to help share his load. It can be disheartening after a while. Which is why I blame a lot of this on the club.
But sticking to topic. If we do get Tel, let’s hope the culture has changed to where he doesn’t have to experience the lack of structure like Rashford and you could say Garnacho has experienced.
The ones who’ve done OK, generally speaking. They “walk into our team” out of necessity and squad size, certainly not on outstanding performances. Mazraoui had a phenomenal start and has been poor-to-average for a long run of matches, and De Ligt plays to the same level he has post-Ajax: “OK, but is this what that 19 year old prodigy captain was?”
You lot are too obsessed with profiles and the mystique of a young talent. Nothing this guy has done in his career thus far warrants a 60m signing.
As I said before Tel is a great young guy and quite a fan favorite for his limited game time, but you are right.
There are very young top talents that fail to make it at their first big club, need to take a step back and then develop into the player they were supposed to be. Think of Isak or Ödegaard.
But then theres also talents like Krkic.
I hope Tel will be like Isak.
I hope we don't offer something like 60m option to buy. I'm lowkey hoping Spurs will get him for that price because he really doesn't suit them tactically.
Garnacho, case in point. He was going the same but knuckled down and gets games. Rashford we’ve heard enough excuses for.
And yes being a top player and professionalism are two different things but they go hand in hand. Whether that’s eating right, not taking alcohol or doing extra training, they are all sacrifices that come under being professional and help to become a top player. Rashford will never be a top player, his ego, lack of effort and apparent lacking professionalism hold him back, and he’s too stubborn to change.
That source is a Tier without a pier.
This is the way. He's genuinely a superb talent
Looks like a top talent. I think he’ll end up at one of the London clubs though.
Euros. Why not. Zirkzee had suitors for around that price range with AC Milan, Hojlund is still a promising striker. Lest we forget the kind of silly money forwards go for. They'd easily go for 30M each.
Would they take Zirkzee or Hojlund going the other way as a sweetner?