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Martin Ødegaard
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I think part of the hype is that he appears to have a highly professional attitude and is approaching everything in the right way. It's undeniable that he has potential, but one of the things that makes him stand out is the way he's developing. Also, Scandinavian countries have some of the best records in the world for producing footballers per capita, so they clearly have good infrastructure and youth development systems and know what they're doing.
So Rummenigge reckons they (Bayern) have good chances of getting him and that they would give him a first team contract right away. Seems like the Guardiola factor could again be a major factor for Bayern here.
I honestly don't watch the Norwegian league enough to say anything about Ødegaard, although imo the lack of quality in the league is why I don't watch it. However, many knowledgeable people have been praising him, so he does indeed seem like a special talent. It will be interesting to track his progress when he does finally move. I'm sure the other Norwegians here could provide a much better analysis.
Norwegian league is more about physicality 1v1, with the exception of Strømsgodset & Molde who try to play football.
In general you could say that the league will show that his talent isn't hindered by a physical game, but since it's a much slower league you could ask yourself if his brain would keep up with it in a top league (considering his brain is his main-strength).
I do not believe he is ready for the Premier League at all yet, I don't know much about the other top leagues currently though.
If i were him, I'd go for a team like Ajax who will give him his chances and stick by him so he can develop. They have a knack of selling their best players as well when they are good enough to leave, and they are given proper football-education in the Netherlands as far as I know.
He would need some proper coaching but his potential is why he is hyped. For me his current ability is over-hyped, while his potential is immense enough to warrant the interest and focus from the top clubs.
He has also (according to reports I've read) always had it easy with taking the step up to the next level within Norwegian youth football and up to professional football.
Simply put, he has a lot going for him that says he will be a hit in the future, but a lot needs to go right for anyone to go from being a supertalent to a superstar.
I have seen him play a lot this year and I must say his the real deal. He would be able to play in the Premier League now.
People saying he would be eaten alive in the premier league have not seen this guy. Tom Cleverley plays in the premier league ffs :-)
This kid will be a part of the first team regardless of the club he choose. I just hope we get him.
People saying he would be eaten alive in the premier league have not seen this guy. Tom Cleverley plays in the premier league ffs :-)
This kid will be a part of the first team regardless of the club he choose. I just hope we get him.
I'd assume Bayern's succesful track record of acquiring 15/16 year old talents and turning them into absolute world-class players (Alaba, Kroos) is also a atrong argument.
I don't have the time to properly reply to this but what an awful, awful post. What's wrong with what's happening to Januzaj? We gave him plenty of chances last year and he has got a decent amount of game time this year considering the competition for places. You would swear he has gone full on "Freddy Adu" with they way you are talking.
I assume you haven't heard of Rooney and Ronaldo then. We didn't do a bad job with them.
He looks great on the ball. Could be another Ljajic though.
I don't watch a lot of the Noggie league, but I know enough to say that very few who go to the Premier League from there prove to be good enough. We've had Diouf and Lindegaard as the standouts in the last few years, while the likes of Dæhli and Eikrem went the other way after spending time at our academy, and both did very well in the Tippeliga. With Lindegaard and Diouf it was apparent that they were way too good for the Noggie league when they played here.
So the best players in the Tippeliga realistically have a small chance of making it in the Premier League. What's special about Ødegaard is that he's already a standout player at the age of 15, having had one of the highest average ratings last season, according to Norwegian newspaper VG. While the hype around him definitely inflated his ratings in some games, it's also apparent when you watch him that he's a level above most of the players he plays against. When you consider his age, that's phenomenal.
Might be worth mentioning that two of the most notable exports who were developed mainly in the Tippeliga are Markus Henriksen and Stefan Johansen, who are 22 and 23, respectively. In terms of footballing skill, Ødegaard is three or four years ahead of them in his development.
So the best players in the Tippeliga realistically have a small chance of making it in the Premier League. What's special about Ødegaard is that he's already a standout player at the age of 15, having had one of the highest average ratings last season, according to Norwegian newspaper VG. While the hype around him definitely inflated his ratings in some games, it's also apparent when you watch him that he's a level above most of the players he plays against. When you consider his age, that's phenomenal.
Might be worth mentioning that two of the most notable exports who were developed mainly in the Tippeliga are Markus Henriksen and Stefan Johansen, who are 22 and 23, respectively. In terms of footballing skill, Ødegaard is three or four years ahead of them in his development.
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I just thought about it, it's a story a la Halilovic.
Elaborate please
Also I heard Hoeness is set to be released from prison and will take position in the youth department. That means all contracts there are gross = net.
I bet he doesn't want to sign for Liverpool anymore
He stated weeks before that he is a Liverpool fan but he wont choose them because of that. The best club for his career is the target.
Smart young kid. He could go there so. We will find out in the next weeks(months).
To be fair, he's always gonna say that. He's not gonna come and say that he's gonna move there because he's a fan, that would rule the others out straight away and Liverpool would have an upper hand when it comes to the contract.
Good point. Im a bit angry at myself that I got excited about him coming to Bayern. Now I would get angry if he doesnt come.
Man. When the hype train gets you.
To be honest I think he will join Bayern. One of the best teams in europe and Pep has a record of giving youth a chance. Liverpool will be yer nearest danger, there doesn't seem to be a lot about United going for him lately unless we're doing it secretly behind the scenes but that would be hard given the amount of attention surrounding him at the moment.
Thanks. We will see. Man, can you imagine being that kid. I would buy comics all day and get very lazy.
What is the rush? There is no elite club who would give a 15 soon 16 year old this much first team playing time. He should stayy in Norway another year or two than move to a club like Ajax.
I thought the guy from Bayern was basically saying he is good enough to play now?
The fact he is playing Qualifying games for Norway would indicate he probably could be playing.
I would think he should be able to get games in the Dutch league next season maybe.
He is obviously going to say that when they are trying to convince him to join them. He is hardly going to say that he will be going into the academy or reserves.
To join Bayern apparently.
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Oh he will walk into that Bayern team no worries
@OrtivorOrt tweeted that he comes. He is a known journalist with close ties to Bayern. I doubt that he would put his name on the line.
Get a bit excited.
He will turn 16 and we can talk about 2,3 years development. No need to talk him into our current team. Add to that Robbens age of 30(next month 31) and Franks of 31 and the fact that Shaq isnt a talent of the highest class and you can see a good transfer.
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Training among the best players in the world is as important if not more important than getting playing time in a weaker league. Some talents have been lost exactly because they stayed among mediocrity for too long.
Oh he will walk into that Bayern team no worries
Good move by him if true. Obviously would've preferred him for United, but I can understand why any young talent would go to train under Guardiola.
It's a risky move isn't it. He's now moving from environment from where he's playing regularly with the grown ups to Bayern youh development system I imagine. No way he's ready for Bundesliga level just yet. I agree with those who point to Ajax/PSV where he'd probably have better opportunities to play top level any time soon.
Will be interesting to follow for sure...
Nothing's sure yet as far as I can tell. Sport1 are being quoted with announcing that "Bayern has signed Odegaard" when their report actually said that they are in the pole position (they "have their nose in front"). Also, Rummenigge did NOT say Odegaard was the "talent of the century", but said: "He is a huge talent, altough I don't want to call him a talent of the century."
It all sounds a little blown out of proportion, but I still hope we actually do sign him.
It all sounds a little blown out of proportion, but I still hope we actually do sign him.
It might be a smart move - not for the immediate future but for the long run. I can see him participating in the training group Gaudino-Kurt-Scholl, three young 18-year-olds that are training with Guardiola and the professionals but get match practise in the U19 (for Odegaard to adapt to club and language - next season in the U23) and sometimes in matches of the "big" team. No need to rush them. The German players all have a bright future but have still deficits especially with their body development.
You might still need to loan them out for half a year or a year in the season 16/17 but you do not really need to change that model in the next one and a half season.
And they will be ready in time when Robben, Ribery, Schweinsteiger will get near the end of their contracts to slowly take over.
At young ones in that age you never can say if they can make it or not - or what end level they target - but if their end level is not good enough when the oldies retire then you still can get your money out of the bank account and buy proper replacements.
I think he´d do well to go to a german team. But I don't necessarily think Bayern is his best option. For the juggernaut of smugness it seems to be mostly about prestige. Wish I could say I was confident in United as a good option for the best talent but I can't.
He's currently at Arsenal, everything still up in the air.
Did he train with us?
He has his pick of the clubs. Doubt we'll sign him, because we've quite a lot of players playing in his position, and he's a big Liverpool fan.
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