Mario Götze - Transfer Discussion | Bayern: Götze will cost €40m

Adnan said:
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Bayern to Bild: We'd like to leak a story that we will negotiate with anyone who offers €40m for Gotze.
Bild: "Bayern will negotiate with anyone who offers €40m for Gotze"
Buying club: Here's a €40m offer for Gotze.
Bayern: Ah, then negotiations have begun! We would like €60m for him.
Buying club:
 
Now that Douglas Costa chap....could be worth looking into @Balu ;)

He had a great game last night. Will be a very good addition and give your lot alot of what you're missing with Ribery out.
 
Pexbo said:
Bayern to Bild: We'd like to leak a story that we will negotiate with anyone who offers €40m for Gotze.
Bild: "Bayern will negotiate with anyone who offers €40m for Gotze"
Buying club: Here's a €40m offer for Gotze.
Bayern: Ah, then negotiations have begun! We would like €60m for him.
Buying club:
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:lol:

Who the feck is this Clark Whitney person?
 
Buy Goetze at 28m pounds. Sell Fellaini. Loan out Januzaj

1st 11 front four

------------------rooney---------------------
--depay/mata--------goetze--------pedro--

2nd 11 front four

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-young---------mata/pereira------pereira/depay

does not look bad at all.
 
Would love Goetze, really unsure especially after Bayern named a price we are not in for him. IF potentially going and now as Di Maria has gone lets go get him. No rumours though.
 
Let's not go crazy about a few great pre-season friendlies by Douglas Costa. Ashley Young looked just as good last season in United's pre-season win against Real. If Costa continues to play like that in the league and the CL, then I'll join in with the excitement.
 
Would you rather have Gotze for €40m or Pedro for €30m (keeping in mind they play different positions)?

Age is a potentially big factor here...
 
askabob said:
Would you rather have Gotze for €40m or Pedro for €30m (keeping in mind they play different positions)?

Age is a potentially big factor here...
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Both, we've got the budget and they are both relatively cheap for their respective talents.
 
Balu said:
Let's not go crazy about a few great pre-season friendlies by Douglas Costa. Ashley Young looked just as good last season in United's pre-season win against Real. If Costa continues to play like that in the league and the CL, then I'll join in with the excitement.
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If he plays like Young last year you well and truly can.
 
askabob said:
Would you rather have Gotze for €40m or Pedro for €30m (keeping in mind they play different positions)?

Age is a potentially big factor here...
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Terrific price for the pair of them. I'd probably go for Gotze keeping in mind his age and potential, even though right now we need Pedro more.
 
Balu said:
Let's not go crazy about a few great pre-season friendlies by Douglas Costa. Ashley Young looked just as good last season in United's pre-season win against Real. If Costa continues to play like that in the league and the CL, then I'll join in with the excitement.
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Agreed. Was just messing about with you a bit - seen as it seems the Caf/media wants us to sign just about every Bayern attacker this summer :lol:
 
Ish84045 said:
Agreed. Was just messing about with you a bit - seen as it seems the Caf/media wants us to sign just about every Bayern attacker this summer :lol:
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It was the same last summer ;). Robben, Müller, Kroos were all huge rumours.
 
Balu said:
It was the same last summer ;). Robben, Müller, Kroos were all huge rumours.
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Hey, you should be flattered, at least we're interested in your players ;)

I'm sure Moyes had Kroos all "woo'ed" and wrapped up before he got the boot! :lol: yeah right!

This year it's been Schweinsteiger, Muller, Lewandowski, Muller, Lewandowski, Muller, Goetze, Muller, Goetze.
 
Is there a single rumour about this?

Or is this just us pushing it opening Ed reads Red Cafe. Unsure after Bayern's comments why rumours havent been circling
 
ATXRedDevil said:
Buy him and Pedro and the attack is sorted. Make it happen woody.
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and what happens to Mata?. Wasnt Fellaini basically being used last year as a No.10 almost too?. We need to start selling players off if we are buying players like Gotze
 
I can see chelsea coming in for him at that price. Especially as they know Juve are very interested in Oscar


28 million is a bargain for a player for his potential
 
IwatUwat said:
Is there a single rumour about this?

Or is this just us pushing it opening Ed reads Red Cafe. Unsure after Bayern's comments why rumours havent been circling
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It seems that if the player wants to leave they won't stand in his way but so far I think the only team that official pursued him was Juve. But so far I haven't heard us being linked with a transfer.
 
Raoul said:
:lol: Pep is going to wreck Bayern and then leave.
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If Goetze leaves, it quite literally has nothing to do with Pep. They've only got positive things to say about each other.
 
Lewis.no.9 said:
and what happens to Mata?. Wasnt Fellaini basically being used last year as a No.10 almost too?. We need to start selling players off if we are buying players like Gotze
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we could rotate mata, Pedro, Memphis and gotze behind Rooney and they'd all get plenty of games, especially with injuries. Having quality depth is a good problem to have and if we have one too many Sell Fellaini
 
ryan_forlan said:
Buy Goetze at 28m pounds. Sell Fellaini. Loan out Januzaj

1st 11 front four

------------------rooney---------------------
--depay/mata--------goetze--------pedro--

2nd 11 front four

----------------chicha-----------------
-young---------mata/pereira------pereira/depay

does not look bad at all.
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Have we suddenly sold Herrera?
 
Lewis.no.9 said:
:lol: :lol: how true. And the worst bit, once he leaves everyone will want him here as Van Gaals replacement :nervous:
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In fairness, he would probably do a better job here. He'd be inheriting a squad with a good number of Spanish speakers who would quickly adapt to his game.
 
Sarni said:
Except Reus is not available and Götze might be.
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Are you telling me 85m would not buy Reus? And United cant get players out of Dortmund when bidding such sums? if thats the case the Fergie era and what this club became was a waste of everyones time!
 
RedorDead21 said:
Are you telling me 85m would not buy Reus? And United cant get players out of Dortmund when bidding such sums? if thats the case the Fergie era and what this club became was a waste of everyones time!
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I don't think Reus is available to anyone this year.

I don't think this club is a waste of time because we cannot sign an unavailable player.
 
Sarni said:
I don't think Reus is available to anyone this year.

I don't think this club is a waste of time because we cannot sign an unavailable player.
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85m and I think Dortmund are selling regardless of what Reus wants. Thats an insane sum on the table. I appreciate Dortmunds finances are sound but jesus. I'm of the opinion every player is available if the sum is right and thats simply how it is.
 
RedorDead21 said:
85m and I think Dortmund are selling regardless of what Reus wants. Thats an insane sum on the table. I appreciate Dortmunds finances are sound but jesus. I'm of the opinion every player is available if the sum is right and thats simply how it is.
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Even Messi?
 
RedorDead21 said:
85m and I think Dortmund are selling regardless of what Reus wants. Thats an insane sum on the table. I appreciate Dortmunds finances are sound but jesus. I'm of the opinion every player is available if the sum is right and thats simply how it is.
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??? You know the player has to sign the contract, right? Just saying.
 
Sarni said:
Even Messi?
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yes of course. Are you suggesting 500m would not buy Messi. Course it would. So my assessment is correct. The exact sum for any player is unknown but there is a sum, always, thats more factual than anything Benitez thinks is a fact!
 
Balu said:
??? You know the player has to sign the contract, right? Just saying.
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Yeah like when Beckham was sold to Real behind his back and he said it broke his heart when he found out. When a club doesnt want you, and agrees to sell you, refusing to go is like clinging to your mother after she's signed the adoption papers......
 
RedorDead21 said:
Yeah like when Beckham was sold to Real behind his back and he said it broke his heart when he found out. When a club doesnt want you, and agrees to sell you, refusing to go is like clinging to your mother after she's signed the adoption papers......
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Yeah, right. Poor Beckham was sold behind his back solely for the financial benefit of United, that's how it went down. And obviously it's comparable with a club that desperately wants to keep its star player, who also doesn't want to leave. But sure, as soon as United throws money around, everyone just goes crazy and acts against what they actually want and forget that they're a football club, that tries more than anything else to have the best possible team each season. Makes sense.
 
Balu said:
Yeah, right. Poor Beckham was sold behind his back solely for the financial benefit of United, that's how it went down. And obviously it's comparable with a club that desperately wants to keep its star player, who also doesn't want to leave. But sure, as soon as United throws money around, everyone just goes crazy and acts against what they actually want and forget that they're a football club, that tries more than anything else to have the best possible team each season. Makes sense.
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Because thats what I said? Dortmund saying they want to keep him has been played out by hundreds of clubs about their star player each and every year in football. The fact is they have a price. Nothing to do with not wanting the best team out on the pitch for themselves. Its an acknowledgment that the player has a price, that money can benefit the club longer term than the individual and that there just might be a replacement within the club or scouted ready to take on the challenge.....
 
RedorDead21 said:
Because thats what I said? Dortmund saying they want to keep him has been played out by hundreds of clubs about their star player each and every year in football. The fact is they have a price. Nothing to do with not wanting the best team out on the pitch for themselves. Its an acknowledgment that the player has a price, that money can benefit the club longer term than the individual and that there just might be a replacement within the club or scouted ready to take on the challenge.....
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But that's not true. Transfer money is one instant push, the club has to pay immense taxes on it and can't invest it in full. There's also the problem of wages, signing several players or trying to sign one new star player for the incoming money might not be covered by it. There's a good chance that the club makes a financial loss and is weaker than before after all the transfers are done, just look at Liverpool after Suarez left or Tottenham after Bale left.

Dortmund also don't have an owner who wants to make money, they're still a football club, (mostly) fan owned, and want to play with the best team possible. Without the player himself pushing out, there's no way they sell. It simply doesn't happen, never happened in Germany. You can't give me a single example where that happened and the Beckham transfer is in no way comparable.

Convince Reus to leave and offer a shitload of money to Dortmund? They'll consider it, there will be a price, even though with the contract situation at the moment, it'll be way above what he's worth. If Reus doesn't want to leave? No way, will Dortmund push him out the door, it makes no sense at all, certainly not longterm in a financial sense. The only way for Dortmund to grow further as a club is to be successful on the pitch longterm and keeping Reus is right now the most important piece for that, because they can't attract or pay a comparably great player.
 
Balu said:
But that's not true. Transfer money is one instant push, the club has to pay immense taxes on it and can't invest it in full. There's also the problem of wages, signing several players or trying to sign one new star player for the incoming money might not be covered by it. There's a good chance that the club makes a financial loss and is weaker than before after all the transfers are done, just look at Liverpool after Suarez left or Tottenham after Bale left.

Dortmund also don't have an owner who wants to make money, they're still a football club, (mostly) fan owned, and want to play with the best team possible. Without the player himself pushing out, there's no way they sell. It simply doesn't happen, never happened in Germany. You can't give me a single example where that happened and the Beckham transfer is in no way comparable.

Convince Reus to leave and offer a shitload of money to Dortmund? They'll consider it, there will be a price, even though with the contract situation at the moment, it'll be way above what he's worth. If Reus doesn't want to leave? No way, will Dortmund push him out the door, it makes no sense at all, certainly not longterm in a financial sense. The only way for Dortmund to grow further as a club is to be successful on the pitch longterm and keeping Reus is right now the most important piece for that, because they can't attract or pay a comparably great player.
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A player like Reus at Dortmund can be instrumental in getting the team into top 4 and that brings CL revenue which could be worth £30m a season all things considered, even more if you consider marketing value of being in a major competition.

From a strictly business perspective it is not clear cut, €85m fee for Reus would likely leave about €60m to play with for the club in transfer market and when the going rate for players like Mkhitaryan who are much less likely to perform at the same level is around €25m then it is not really that tempting to the management. Reus himself will not force anything either as he seems content at Dortmund hence contract extension.
 
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