Played as a right-sided forward in a 3-4-3 system last night. He was quite good, but he's not the answer to our gaping hole in central midfield. In fact he isn't even a central midfielder.
Marek Hamsik
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He was a central midfielder for many years (still is for Slovakia) with a penchant to go to the left, then was moved out to the right with licence to drift in matarazzis trident idea centering the attack around cavani and lavezzi. He can play central midfield easily ( I still remember 2 games against AC and Roma 4 years ago where he bossed the midfield against De Rossi, Muntari so effectively it was incredible (I then fell in love)) and with the right players around giving him freedom to be uptop centrally he would be incredible. HE'S EXACTLY WHAT WE NEED.
So thats who it was.
His agent is a cnut. We would get fleeced and he wouldn't be here long either. Forget it.
Didn't he just sign a new contract last week or something?
I'd rather we got Gotze TBH, well i'd like us to get both so as to provide flair for both midfield and left wing....but understand we are watching the pennies these days.
"Keep the home fires burning, though in your heart your yearning..."
Raiola-is this the same guy who is pimping Pogba to Juve
Here's hoping he has guilty concious then and sends Hamsik our way.
Gambit
You seem to be nothing short of obsessed with this fellow, yet when I have seen him he has always been underwhelming. Admittedly I have only seen him play about ten times. What am I missing?
A lot. He's actaully been playing badly recently for the last 2 seasons yet is still incredibly effective and as I've said previously his stats match up better than anyones even Scholes at a similar age. This season he's been recovering from an injury and has made only about half the appearances yet his stats are still brilliant.
Thats quite a while!
Yup, been played out of position for that time yet he still has incredible stats that would make anyone jealous. Better than Gerrard, Lampard, and even Nedved at the same age.
Anyway last time I'm gonna argue his case, next time people need to read through the thread.
Do you think the chemistry between him, Lavezzi and Cavani makes him look better than he is?
If he's too expensive for the Italian clubs then it is very safe to say that we won't be paying it either. This has got City written all over it with statements like that.
That'd be worrying as he's still looked average when I've seen him with those two.
Maybe he is the next Ibra in the sense that some people only see him when he is decent and some only see him when he is poor. I watched a fair few games of Napoli around the time of the Chelsea tie and he looked better than average but still not a top class player imo. I'm not writing him off but at 24 his days are running thin to say he has "potential to be", next 2 seasons will be key to tell if he can step it up a gear or not.
No I'd say it make him look worst, he was at his best in terms of performances when he was the main creative drive. In the trident now he is hampered and lost a lot of what made him first catch my eye which was this incredible force like Nedved. Yet as I say stat wise hes better than anyone at the same age.
I don't get it either - Watched him maybe 10 -15 times including at the World Cup and wasn't that impressed. Cavani looks a very good forward and for me Lavezzi has looked better than Hamsik.
Seems to have a good engine but not particularly creative, nor technically all that great.
From what I've seen I personally suspect he looks good in Serie A as he has a bit of pace but may not look as good in the high tempo PL. Seems to have been linked with PL clubs for years but nothing ever happens - perhaps just an agent trying to talk up a move.
They do? Not so sure about that myself. Hamsik's first season at Napoli was Scholesy's breakthrough season with us at the age of 20, and here's how it went:
Scholes
94/95 (20) - 7 goals in 10 starts (+15 sub)
95/96 (21) - 14 goals in 15 starts (+13 sub)
96/97 (22) - 6 goals in 21 starts (+12 sub)
97/98 (23) - 10 goals in 37 starts (+5 sub)
Hamsik
07/08 (20) - 9 goals in 34 starts (+3 sub)
08/09 (21) - 9 goals in 31 starts (+ 1 sub)
09/10 (22) - 12 goals in 37 starts
10/11 (23) - 11 goals in 36 starts (+ 1 sub)
4 more goals in 65 more starts (or 25 more appearances) isn't really any better.
As Hamsik cemented himself as a first team regular early on and his influence in the games much greater for Napoli to Scholes (and in comparison to now) at the same age I'd say yeah it is. Don't get me wrong Scholes became a god shortly afterwards and wether Hamsik could reach that same level is questionable but he won't in his current position at his current team.
Hamsik isn't a forward.
Last time I watched them all they were banging on about on the radio was this 3-4-3 formation with Lavezzi, Hamsik and Cavani attacking - they don't play 4-4-2 as far as I can see and Cavani plays up to so Lavezzi and Hamsik seem to do pretty much the same job if the team wants to have any balance at all.
My point stands - not an outstanding passer, not an outstanding playmaker and not an outstanding goalscorer.
Obviously a talented player but not really sure where he's fit in at United. For me we need a deep lying player who can keep the ball - we have plenty in the final third.
I also have concerns about players with bundles of energy in Serie A - seem to look a lot better there where the style is more slow build up and focus on the technical rather than in the PL where it's all hustle and bustle, pace and power.
Has officially signed a new 3 year contract at Napoli
Now Cavania has gone Hamsik has found great form as the AM. I'm wondering if it was that same chemistry /game plan that actually hampered Hamsik.
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Proving he's everything you claim he's not over the end of last season and the start of this one. Perfect fit for United in my opinion.
I only bump this thread as it's been a long time and :
Exclusive: Manchester United To Launch £35m Bid For Napoli Playmaker Marek Hamsik
Red Devils make Slovakian star their top target for January.
Manchester United are set to launch a sensational big-money bid of around £35m to land Napoli star Marek Hamsik in the January transfer window, CaughtOffside understands.
The 26-year-old is one of the best attacking mifielders in Serie A, having weighed in heavily with goals and assists consistently since joining the club in 2007, and could be the ideal solution to David Moyes’ problems in that area of the pitch, as the Red Devils are still missing the creative influence of the recently-retired Paul Scholes.
Hamsik has scored four goals in two games this season as Napoli have made a flying start in Serie A under new manager Rafael Benitez, and the Italians will be keen not to sell such an important player in the middle of the season, particularly having lost star striker Edinson Cavani over the summer as he left the club for big-spending PSG.
Still, Napoli worked well to replace Cavani with the signings of Gonzalo Higuain and Jose Callejon, and may feel that if they are smart in the transfer market again they could rebuild their squad to replace Hamsik as well, as United will be willing to offer money that is hard to turn down.
Moyes had targeted the likes of Cesc Fabregas and Thiago Alcantara over the summer, only for the latter to choose a move to Bayern Munich while the former remained with Barcelona, though Hamsik will be seen as a great alternative to the pair, and a more realistic target than Juan Mata, who could be on the way out of Chelsea, but whom the Blues won’t want to sell to a title rival.
Napoli could end up being one of the clubs who take advantage of Mata’s situation at Chelsea, and will be particularly keen to do so if they lose Hamsik, though they would face plenty of competition for the Spanish international.
With the former Valencia man being surprisingly frozen out at Chelsea by new manager Jose Mourinho this season, the likes of Arsenal, Manchester United, Tottenham and Atletico Madrid could all be ready to pounce this January if the 25-year-old is still not playing regular football, though the player himself could be tempted to be reunited with Benitez, whom he played under at Chelsea last season.
However, Napoli may also consider attempting to land Manchester United’s Shinji Kagawa as part of a deal for Hamsik, with the Japanese playmaker another highly-rated talent not getting the game time he deserves at his currentclub. It seems possible that Moyes may be happy to let Kagawa go, particularly if it can bring down a potential fee for Hamsik.
Now it's all caught offside BS but it's been a while since I had a sniff of Hamsik to United.
It would be rejected in 5 minutes
Gambit if I was a moderator then I would make sure you never post on here again after this
I wholeheartedly support Gambits fervent campaign.
Why?
Don't mean to be a party pooper, but I'm not entirely convinced he would leave Napoli for United. He is an icon in Naples and they are doing really well at the moment with Benitez in charge. Might be wrong but it would take a huge bid anyway.
Good player though.
Good player though.
WTF. I thought we closed this thread.Having seen us stick kagawa on the left with the other factors you have mentioned make it seem very unlikely
If he leaves napoli it will be for big bucks... I thought psg might go for him at the same time as cavani
I don't needlessly bump it. Only when there's some murmurings online.
He's already said if United came in for him he'd have to consider it.
But that was probably before, when Napoli weren't top of the table in Italy, and we weren't 12th
He's not a CM though is he?
Tremendous player, but I doubt a Moyes led Manchester United could attract his services.
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