Marcus Rashford (out)

What point? Where did he pretend to write the books? Pretty much most celebrities have someone else do the actual writing for them whereas they're the ideas and the writer makes sense of it.

What are we doing here?
His name is front and centre of all the books.
I'm not sure what you're confused about here?
 
Wow its a long road back for Rashford after that comment, if it's even possible. I'm still hoping he gets moved on in this window but time is against us. It's inevitable he's moved on eventually, more likely in the summer but it could be a long boring second half of the season unless he bucks up his ideas and starts impressing.

Sad that it has come to this, but I can't pretend I'm surprised having watched him on the pitch for years now. His lack of application is very apparent.
 
Good for RA

It's about time someone called these lazy feckers out, and held them to account and worked on sorting this rotten culture out that has been allowed to develop.

They earn enough fecking money, the least they can do is apply themselves and focus on their job that pays them so much, and work hard in training and matches (obviously there should be way more but this is the absolute bare minimum)

He's also a senior player and supposed to be setting an example to the kids, what impression does it give seeing him stroll round the pitch sullenly, and if it's true there's off the field discipline issues too

I'd leave him in the reserves if we can't force him out this window, and try and force him out in the summer, no way should he come back in like nothing has happened.

Remember SAF culture of no one is bigger than the club? About time we returned to that and he clearly thinks he's bigger than the club. He's probably got too used to managers just allowing him to do as he pleases, ETH was a big culprit of it, so it's about time he's put back in his place, no one is bigger than the club Marcus
 
That's never the manager's job to "sell" any of the players, that's why he is manager and the club's transfer team has to deal with that shit.

No need to torpedo any possible deal.

I don't think Amorim cares. He was hired as a coach. He's coaching. He didn't give Rashford the contract he's on and he doesn't care, or shouldn't care, if the money men in the club are sweating.

Actually, he should care. Having Rashford in the club is bad not only for the club, but for Amorin and as well. His ability to build a team depends on how much funds we have.

This is not Amorim speaking from the heart. This is deliberate strategic words. These are not off the cuff comments. These are well planned well thought out words. Maybe not exact words but basically pre planned and I think backed by the board.

I don't think so.

The time for the manager/club to speak up was years ago.

Rashford won (he can do feck all and get paid a fortune) so now our only job is to make sure he leaves. Amorin words does nothing to help in that aspect.
 
We are a month into the transfer window, and no club wants to buy him / afford his stupid wages. Amorim hasn't put any deal in jeopardy because there isn't any going to be one in the first place.

Criticism should be directed only at Rashford and the idiots at the club who gave him that wage, not the one man who is trying to whip the culture of the playing staff into place FFS.
 
No need to torpedo any possible deal.



Actually, he should care. Having Rashford in the club is bad not only for the club, but for Amorin and as well. His ability to build a team depends on how much funds we have.



I don't think so.

The time for the manager/club to speak up was years ago.

Rashford won (he can do feck all and get paid a fortune) so now our only job is to make sure he leaves. Amorin words does nothing to help in that aspect.

I'd argue it's the high wages for crap performances that are causing the issues with his sale.
 
As a teen he was incredible for his age. Injury has really hampered him. Risky signing, especially when we already have Mount perma-crocked, Eriksen and Casemiro largely frozen out, Shaw always injured. Would take as a cheap punt if we can move some deadwood on, and bring in some additional options.
I thought if the only option to sell Rashford was to take Fati off them would it be worth it? I don't know how good he is or how expensive.
 
We are a month into the transfer window, and no club wants to buy him / afford his stupid wages. Amorim hasn't put any deal in jeopardy because there isn't any going to be one in the first place.

Criticism should be directed only at Rashford and the idiots at the club who gave him that wage, not the one man who is trying to whip the culture of the playing staff into place FFS.
Spot on.

No issue with the comments and if anything it might put some urgency into ‘Rashy’ to find his exit.

My manager.
 
No need to torpedo any possible deal.



Actually, he should care. Having Rashford in the club is bad not only for the club, but for Amorin and as well. His ability to build a team depends on how much funds we have.



I don't think so.

The time for the manager/club to speak up was years ago.

Rashford won (he can do feck all and get paid a fortune) so now our only job is to make sure he leaves. Amorin words does nothing to help in that aspect.

Quite possibly. Im just saying these are well thought pre planned comments.

This is a new club management team trying to change the culture. Doesn't matter that this should have been done yrs ago.
 
Can we get a welfare check on Henry Wintey, Onuoha and all his other media cheerleaders, after yet another savage put down from king Amorim?
 
People need to give other clubs and their agents some credit. They’re probably making their phone calls, asking Rashford’s side, chatting with sources close to the club, and most importantly reading between the lines of what it means for us to literally prefer not to fill our bench than have him on it.

They’re not waiting for Amorim to say all this in a press conference.
 
Does the Saudi transfer window stay open longer than the Premier League window?

So could Rashford (and Casemiro) still move after the window closes on Monday 3rd Feb.
 
imagine being on obscene wages, and your manager is still saying he'd start a pensioner over you because you do nothing but mope around and won't even try in training. Supposedly Marcus wants to make his way back into the england team? How are you even showing that? By posting on Social Media all the time from the stands?

I'll never take anything away from his off-field deeds, but this guy's footballing career is almost over. No one wants his wages, no one wants to buy him. He's going to be in the stands for the next 2-3 seasons and his career is over. When you put it like that, and he doesn't seem to realise it, it's probably best for him to retire and certainly justifies Amorim's position. The worst position you could take on Rashford is that he might actually feel he can outlast Amorim, and if that was also the case, that says EVERYTHING about this club.
 
His name is front and centre of all the books.
I'm not sure what you're confused about here?
Yeah and Michelle Obama a lawyer, didn't write her own book herself but only her name is on the cover.

I'm confused why Rashford being the writer of his books is being brought up? It's not relevant at all and just sounds like an excuse to call him an idiot when he just did what countless famous people before him and since have done.
 
imagine being on obscene wages, and your manager is still saying he'd start a pensioner over you because you do nothing but mope around and won't even try in training. Supposedly Marcus wants to make his way back into the england team? How are you even showing that? By posting on Social Media all the time from the stands?

I'll never take anything away from his off-field deeds, but this guy's footballing career is almost over. No one wants his wages, no one wants to buy him. He's going to be in the stands for the next 2-3 seasons and his career is over. When you put it like that, and he doesn't seem to realise it, it's probably best for him to retire and certainly justifies Amorim's position. The worst position you could take on Rashford is that he might actually feel he can outlast Amorim, and if that was also the case, that says EVERYTHING about this club.
100%

Gone as a footballer.

As shown now, gone as dignified character.

(everyone in foot world knows he is a lazy c**t)
 
I remember when Lampard was sacked by Chelsea and replaced with Tuchel, Henry Winter likened it in his headline to Bambi being shot. He must have some gems lined up for Rashford.
 


Timestamped for the Rashford question.

He's had a long week, it was a relief to win, and that was the last question.

I think he's made another gaffe and will regret what he said later. Amorim is too straightforward with the media for this own good. This is not going to help us if we don't manage to find a seller. Or if we're negotiating.


I think every other club knows how United and Amorim feel about Rashford. There is no big deal to be had, just whether we pay 3/4 or 7/8 of his wages. I'm glad he's calling him out like that. No gaffe at all.
 
I saw the training footage. Rash was having a great time playing the Rondo. Laughing and smiling which is great to see.

Problem is, if my manager threw me out of the team and I actually wanted back in, I would be a miserable horse in training. Going all out in even the simplest drills to prove that I can make an impact. I would be caught dead before being seen laughing around with my mates in front of my supervisor.

This is basics. Things that anyone can relate to in any professional environment. Rashford is a wonderful human who has become a subpar football professional. At least for United standards. These are the facts.
 
I'd argue that by taking a hardline publicly, he's forcing Rashford to consider the paycut for the sake of his career, both domestically and internationally.

You play poker with them right near the end of a window and when it looks increasingly like you're not getting back in the team, you start to sweat and make concessions.

And this can’t be done in private conversations? “Marcus - you won’t play again. Get out of the club or rot in the reserves”. Seems simple enough to me.

Instead, we have to make it sound like if he was the last footballer on earth we still wouldn’t pick him. Somehow, we think that’s going to encourage Barca to sign him up?
 
Agree with people who say that these comments won't affect any deal, let's face it Ruben could say little and still don't think he leaves
 
Should the club just offer him out as a free transfer to get him off the books?
 
He’s ready for a new challenge. The challenge of coming up with gimmicky captions for all his pics from the stands for all his socials.
 
Pretty sure all the school meals, books, look at me I'm a great guy type projects, are simply projects that use his name and he shows up for some photos and PR. Not a chance he's smart enough to write successful kids books. There is a team (mostly family) around him that do most of the work, he's the name and face and that's about it.
 
Pretty sure all the school meals, books, look at me I'm a great guy type projects, are simply projects that use his name and he shows up for some photos and PR. Not a chance he's smart enough to write successful kids books. There is a team (mostly family) around him that do most of the work, he's the name and face and that's about it.

I think he's probably done quite a lot of really good things for his community and put a decent amount of his time and energy into it.

I don't really see any reason to say otherwise.
 
And it's really snide to try and use that against him, for all his flaws, agreed
This is exactly why I was questioning the thing about the books earlier. It's just nonsense and people who hate him. Sure you can want rid of him, there are valid reasons for that. But digging him out for something pretty much all celebrities do is just icky. Like a celebration of hate. You'd think he'd done nothing good for Man Utd and has been a freeloader.