Marcus Rashford (Out) | Rashford: “For me, personally, I think I'm ready for a new challenge and the next steps.”

Of course he does. I'm just saying its really sad what he's become. Despised by the fanbase. Had he been ten years older he'd have been an all time great. I just feel the environment he's come up in has done him no favours. If you disagree, fair enough.

At any rate, it's time for him to move on. Just saddened by what could've been.
If he was ten years older he'd have had a career at Everton or West Ham. He's been one of the main beneficiaries of the last decade.

But I agree, a change of scenery would do everyone good. It's not for everyone to work at the same place for decades.
 
It is a shame that he's become the player he has. With as much raw abilities in his break out season he was so promising but hasn't realised that consistently. I've probably afforded Rashford more goodwill than I would most players but it has felt for a good while now that it's best for all involved that he move, but given our lack of attacking quality we had to stick with him. We still lack attacking quality, but it feels a much more pressing need now for him to move on and have a fresh start, and the club to move away from the perpetual saga.
 
I don't care where he goes (even Arsenal) because I think he just fell out of love with football. He definitely loves the riches that it brings him though. For a "local lad who loves the club" he sure bent us over when it came time to renew his contract. I know the club is run by idiots, but if we didn’t meet his price he would’ve left for the highest bidder. I can’t imagine Scholes or Neville doing the same thing.
 
I don't care where he goes (even Arsenal) because I think he just fell out of love with football. He definitely loves the riches that it brings him though. For a "local lad who loves the club" he sure bent us over when it came time to renew his contract. I know the club is run by idiots, but if we didn’t meet his price he would’ve left for the highest bidder. I can’t imagine Scholes or Neville doing the same thing.
Well, Keane did so let's not use that as a stick to beat the lad with. I think the problem is what Rene Hake said recently about players being unwilling to change their game. I strongly suspect Rashford is one of them. He wants to be a wide forward who always shoots and doesn't press, like Ronaldo at Real, and we just don't need that from him, therefore he's sellable.
 
What did him and Garnacho do apart from the not putting in 100 percent. Has it come our yet

I posted a link in post #286 to reddit, where there's an article - a guy pasted the whole article into one of the top comments. There's an explanation on both of them.
 
I'm being soft but I do feel bad for him there. That tweet and article is savage. Imagine reading that you're basically being sold because you're the poster boy for all that is wrong in your organisation.
It doesn’t feel good how this is happening but it feels like it has to be done.

He is living the dream playing for the club but just drifts around the pitch like it’s a testimonial at times.

I do think the club have contributed to his down turn by playing him through injury, there were times you could tell something was seriously off when he wouldn’t even attempt to out run defenders he could have done with ease. It’s a real shame because he produced some great moments for the club over the years.

If he does manage to move on I really hope he finds himself again because his drop off is a sad story and some of the things written about him are way over the top.

He could still turn this around for Utd by showing the desire that it missing but it feels like that ship has well and truly sailed.
 
Stop feeling sorry for Rashford - as much as I like the guy, if he worked only 70 % as much as Diallo - he wouldn't even be mentioned as a player about to be sold. That's one of the few things that has prevented me from really turning on Antony. He is not contributing a lot - but at least he usually works hard. Our problems is that we have good players who don't give 100% - Rashford being one of the main culprits
 
My Arsenal supporting mate said yesterday that he'd happily take Rashford for £40m. Though he said that he would play him as a number 9. Would snap their hand off for that.
 
My Arsenal supporting mate said yesterday that he'd happily take Rashford for £40m. Though he said that he would play him as a number 9. Would snap their hand off for that.
Because you cant see past your agenda?

Why even take the slightest risk that we might end up strengthening a team we hope to be a direct rival in the near future? I'd much rather he went to another league....
 
Because you cant see past your agenda?

Why even take the slightest risk that we might end up strengthening a team we hope to be a direct rival in the near future? I'd much rather he went to another league....
Agenda? We aren't getting more than £40m for Rashford. I couldn't care less where he went.
 
Because you cant see past your agenda?

Why even take the slightest risk that we might end up strengthening a team we hope to be a direct rival in the near future? I'd much rather he went to another league....

Beggars belief people have sat through the last few seasons of watching Rashford and think he could ever strengthen a rival.

At his salary we don’t exactly have much choice. Not that Arsenal would be dumb enough to sign him anyway.
 
Arsenal isn't going to make him their highest paid player.
 
Because you cant see past your agenda?

Why even take the slightest risk that we might end up strengthening a team we hope to be a direct rival in the near future? I'd much rather he went to another league....
So are you prepared to get paid a pittance for Rashford and have the money available to strengthen United just to have no risk of strengthening a league rival, or do you actually think the club would get anything in the region of 40 million out of any continental club for Rashford?
 
Well, Keane did so let's not use that as a stick to beat the lad with. I think the problem is what Rene Hake said recently about players being unwilling to change their game. I strongly suspect Rashford is one of them. He wants to be a wide forward who always shoots and doesn't press, like Ronaldo at Real, and we just don't need that from him, therefore he's sellable.
Keane wasn't home grown.

But yeah I wouldn't hold it against him too much, it's a business and it would be foolish not to extract the most out of it's short time span.
 
So are you prepared to get paid a pittance for Rashford and have the money available to strengthen United just to have no risk of strengthening a league rival, or do you actually think the club would get anything in the region of 40 million out of any continental club for Rashford?
40 mil from Arse or 30 mil elsewhere? Elsewhere everyday......

We have no guaranteed replacement in the squad, and no surething signing on the horizon. If we had that I'd be a lot more relaxed, and as much as I rate Amorim who knows if he's here next season with this club. So going all in on Amorim and fecking off our wingers is one thing but I'd rather not also strengthen a potential rival even a fecking single percentage point.... but I don't have this overpowering urge to get him out of the club like the rest of you. I'll just leave it in the hands of the club and go along either way as I accept they are privy to way more info than me, and are paid big money to address it.
 
If Amorim brings Rashford back into the team straight away ,he has severely weakened his position at United.
Hopefully he has the backbone to follow up now by moving Rashford out of the club as soon as possible, he has been stinking the place up for years.
Taking that trip to New York during the international break just goes to show that it’s all about him, doesn’t give a fig what anyone thinks , two fingers to the new manager.
 
If Amorim brings Rashford back into the team straight away ,he has severely weakened his position at United.
Hopefully he has the backbone to follow up now by moving Rashford out of the club as soon as possible, he has been stinking the place up for years.
Taking that trip to New York during the international break just goes to show that it’s all about him, doesn’t give a fig what anyone thinks , two fingers to the new manager.
We play spurs Thursday night and it’s fairly evident Rashford will not be starting.
 
40 mil from Arse or 30 mil elsewhere? Elsewhere everyday......
You're not getting 30 million either from a continental club for a washed-up onedimensional player with attitude problems and stellar wage demands which he has not justified in the last two and a half years.
 
You're not getting 30 million either from a continental club for a washed-up onedimensional player with attitude problems and stellar wage demands which he has not justified in the last two and a half years.
PSG have seemingly always been interested in Rashford and with no Mbappe there and their forward line needing to be strengthened it’s very believable Rashford would go there as it works for both parties, for PSG they’d sign a big name who can play at pace across the frontline and for Rashford it’s guaranteed CL football with similar wages and an easier league so can play at 50%.
 
You're not getting 30 million either from a continental club for a washed-up onedimensional player with attitude problems and stellar wage demands which he has not justified in the last two and a half years.
In which case why would we even be getting 40 mill from Arsenal? Make it make sense...
 
PSG have seemingly always been interested in Rashford and with no Mbappe there and their forward line needing to be strengthened it’s very believable Rashford would go there as it works for both parties, for PSG they’d sign a big name who can play at pace across the frontline and for Rashford it’s guaranteed CL football with similar wages and an easier league so can play at 50%.
The timing is actually not too bad. As you say, Mbappe is out, and Kolo Muani seems to be struggling there, so their attack probably needs an injection of sorts. Rashford will most likely be a solid name for them, and I would assume he would put up good numbers there without having to work hard as PSG are so dominant most of the time anyhow.
 
Unlike Neville I don’t want him back in the team scoring goals…he’s done this many times before and we end up back seeing 12 months of no effort. Sell him to anyone willing to bid. His standards are too low. Needs a fresh challenge and new pastures.
 
I'm sure Sir Jim is looking at Rashy and seeing that 465k a week (is that what we are up too?) plus his pure profit being from the academy and thinking it's too good of a saving not to grab it.
 
If Rashford is on 325 ish then over 4 years thats 60/70 mill ish. If we get 30/40 mill for him thats a 100 mill package. If we get someone on 150 a week then that leaves 70 to buy someone. Does that Math? That should get us Gyokeres/Oshimen. Seems a good deal to me
 
Its time for him to move on for so many reasons. If Amorim believes he is detrimental to the culture he is trying to build that's enough of a reason on its own. His performances on the pitch have been woeful, that's enough of a reason on its own. If he's not prepared to work hard and adapt his game to a new system that's enough of a reason on its own.

For him a chance to go somewhere, hopefully a bit out of the spotlight, and attempt to kick start his career should be enough of a reason for him. It feels like a bad fit all round and, speaking incredibly cynically, sometimes in life a scapegoat can be very useful.

"He's a local lad" is not nearly enough of a reason to keep him around, United aren't a charity and the lad has made god tiers amount of money, neither party is gonna walk away harmed.

Its time, I can't see it happening in January, but I'll be astonished if he's here come September next year.
 
Rashford has had one good season in four. Even without the huge contract, it would have been difficult to get top dollar for him. We aren't going to get big money, even from a domestic rival. I think the club understand that and why you see some of these stories.

The window to sell for a decent fee was the summer of 2023. That window has closed. I think there's a real chance he will spend the next 12 months on loan.
 
I'm sure Sir Jim is looking at Rashy and seeing that 465k a week (is that what we are up too?) plus his pure profit being from the academy and thinking it's too good of a saving not to grab it.

666k p/w now.

It's only a coincidence that is how much money Jim uses as toilet paper in a week.
 
Rashford has had one good season in four. Even without the huge contract, it would have been difficult to get top dollar for him. We aren't going to get big money, even from a domestic rival.

I doubt 90% of fans give two fecks about the fee. He could go for 20 million and I wouldn't actually mind that much, just once we get those wages off the books.
 
I doubt 90% of fans give two fecks about the fee. He could go for 20 million and I wouldn't actually mind that much, just once we get those wages off the books.
The last few pages suggest some people care how much we get and where he goes to. I think selling to your rivals shouldn't be a taboo.
 
If Amorim brings Rashford back into the team straight away ,he has severely weakened his position at United.
Hopefully he has the backbone to follow up now by moving Rashford out of the club as soon as possible, he has been stinking the place up for years.
Taking that trip to New York during the international break just goes to show that it’s all about him, doesn’t give a fig what anyone thinks , two fingers to the new manager.

Why does it? He dropped him and if he's trained well since then and no further issues, bringing him back weakens him in no way.
 
I'm sure Sir Jim is looking at Rashy and seeing that 465k a week (is that what we are up too?) plus his pure profit being from the academy and thinking it's too good of a saving not to grab it.

Yeah mate, 495k a week, that’s almost four million a month, definitely should help the cashflow.
 
My Arsenal supporting mate said yesterday that he'd happily take Rashford for £40m. Though he said that he would play him as a number 9. Would snap their hand off for that.
I actually think that wouldn't be a bad idea. Aside from the historic rivalry, Arsenal and United are not even "direct rivals" at this point, which is something the club itself has acknowledged saying that we're years away from a title challenge, and, in the unlikely event that Rashford fired Arsenal to the league title, at least Liverpool and City don't win. I'd wish him all the best on that front if it stops Liverpool.

But Arsenal would buy at their own risk- it's not a controversial statement or someone being a "hater" to say Rashford has had extremely hit and miss form for over 4 years now. To go from a season of 5 goals to 30 to 8 to 7 this season (but still having massive issues) is evidence of this, not to mention his lifestyle and disciplinary issues.
 
Well, Keane did so let's not use that as a stick to beat the lad with. I think the problem is what Rene Hake said recently about players being unwilling to change their game. I strongly suspect Rashford is one of them. He wants to be a wide forward who always shoots and doesn't press, like Ronaldo at Real, and we just don't need that from him, therefore he's sellable.

I think we can well and truly beat him with that stick.

Keane wanted to be paid what he is worth. He earned that right by years and years of hard work, dedicated performances. He was our captain in a dominant spell of winning trophies year after year.

Rashford wanted to be paid superstar wages without putting the work in. We should have laughed him out of the club there and then but we foolishly gave it to him. The jokes on us, cos his latest contract is baffling. It was such a bad move for us
 
Why does it? He dropped him and if he's trained well since then and no further issues, bringing him back weakens him in no way.
Why does it? He dropped him and if he's trained well since then and no further issues, bringing him back weakens him in no way.
Why does it ? Because training well for a week means nothing when you have been acting the maggot for years.
 
It's sad to read all this negativity about Rashford - ok it is perfectly true that he hasn't performed for a long time now. But he doesn't seem a bad lad to me - in fact, he looks more like a lost little boy and he is United to his core.

And to be realistic, there is no way is anyone throwing big dollars at him. I don't see him as any more saleable than Sancho and like Sancho we'll be looking for a loan arrangement at best. This talk of PSG swanning in and chucking £45 million at us for him - nope, I don't buy it. Is there any reason that their recruiters cannot see what the Caf sees?

So what's the solution? I hope that Amorim is as good a man manager as they say he is and that he can get a tune out of Marcus. Given how many misfits we have and how tight is the budget for new buys we really need some major work to develop the lads we have right now. Earn your money Amorim and help Rashford and others to earn theirs.
 
I actually think that wouldn't be a bad idea. Aside from the historic rivalry, Arsenal and United are not even "direct rivals" at this point, which is something the club itself has acknowledged saying that we're years away from a title challenge, and, in the unlikely event that Rashford fired Arsenal to the league title, at least Liverpool and City don't win. I'd wish him all the best on that front if it stops Liverpool.

But Arsenal would buy at their own risk- it's not a controversial statement or someone being a "hater" to say Rashford has had extremely hit and miss form for over 4 years now. To go from a season of 5 goals to 30 to 8 to 7 this season (but still having massive issues) is evidence of this, not to mention his lifestyle and disciplinary issues.
Agreed on the risk involved on the part of the buying club. I explained this to my mate. I think as someone who doesn't watch United as often as us, he was of the view that Rashford's poor form is more of a 'toxic United' problem than a Rashford issue. He might be right in the sense that a move could reignite Rashford. However, with a hypothetical £40m fee and big wages on the line, there is no guarantee that Rashford would recapture the form of previous years. There is a chance that he has genuinely already had his best years.