Should be dropped against Fulham. Garnacho and Diallo should signify our future now, Rashford has more than enough opportunities. A purple patch every two seasons isn't what a United starting winger should offer.
Marcus Rashford (Out) | Ornstein: United want to keep, will only consider substantial bids
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A new contract?!
No decent European team is willing to pay anywhere close to 65m for him at the moment.. wages have to be considered as well additionally.. PSG was my best hope but they don’t seem like they’re interested either
As some posters said above, I’d even be happy with 50m..
Saudi clubs seem like the only ones who could pay the sums you mentioned but Rashford sure as hell not going to Saudi during his prime years
Swap him with Oscar Bobb. Give City money on top
If he scores either one of his chances today, then it's a great day. If he scored another after that, it's even better and we'd all be so optimistic about the season ahead. For me, I just find him frustrating because his finishing is so inconsistent and he goes off the boil far too quickly. With players that don't perform that well or go off it for long periods, you can forgive them a little bit if some of the chances go in. But, he hasn't got that going for him or didn't have it going for him last year. Today was a slightly better overall performance, but no end product.
I find him frustrating because he's not offering a lot. In the position we want him to play (up top), he didn't get the goals last season. I find it odd that he still hasn't defined what his position is after so long, and we now have more promising players in those positions that are more exciting to watch. I find him to be position-less and we are simply playing him because of his "name" and what he means to the club, or has meant to the club before.
My heart wants him to turn it around and for his play to improve massively.
My head says that we need to move on from him. I question how many United fans would have him in their first 11.
I find him frustrating because he's not offering a lot. In the position we want him to play (up top), he didn't get the goals last season. I find it odd that he still hasn't defined what his position is after so long, and we now have more promising players in those positions that are more exciting to watch. I find him to be position-less and we are simply playing him because of his "name" and what he means to the club, or has meant to the club before.
My heart wants him to turn it around and for his play to improve massively.
My head says that we need to move on from him. I question how many United fans would have him in their first 11.
We will never be able to sell him.
Yup. Forever ours, face of the club etc
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A slightly better finish today and I’m not sure he’d have this level of criticism levied at him.
I though his pressing, work rate and overall offensive play was a bit better and his counter with Garnacho a clear sign of how he can be very useful in transition.
I though his pressing, work rate and overall offensive play was a bit better and his counter with Garnacho a clear sign of how he can be very useful in transition.
300K per week for that. Garnacho and Amad were absolutely miles better than him and actually made stuff happen rather than just mess it up. He’s a counter attack specialist (not a great one either) who gets paid a fortune. A right old mess we’ve got ourselves into.
Anyway hope he picks up form this season so he contributed and we’re able to get rid.
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I’ve made posts on him before and I agree it’s a madness that’s he’s earning that much without having the consistency to back it up.
However he is the only player in our squad whose ceiling is good enough to be a top forward at the moment.
Højlund could become that player one day, as could Garnacho maybe but Rashford is the peak player.
Don’t get me wrong give me Nico Williams and I’d take him in a heart beat but is there a player available to us at market for a fee we can afford this season to replace him with?
Or are we better off just seeing if he’s got a season like 22/23 in him again?
I’d say unquestionably the latter but this is last chance saloon.
I will never understand the amount of hate Rashford gets. Carried this club with a broken back before Bruno arrived then brought us to a top three finish the season before last.
He's struggling currently, but I'll never not support him.
He's struggling currently, but I'll never not support him.
I think i must have missed that part.
No hate, but gratitude for the past past performances can only go so far. Doesn't deserve a place in the team right now, looks like yesterday man when compared with the younger wingers.
When he looked like he cared, he was absolutely worshipped.
He gets hate now because he makes getting paid £300k a week to play football for Manchester United look like the most miserable and painful job in the world.
I’d think he’s miserable because of his form, knowing he’s capable of being better. I hope he gets a couple of early goals to get some confidence back.
To be honest I think people hang on too much to 22/23. I feel he is unlikely to recover that form infornt of goal - he got 17 league goals and I don’t see him achieving that again. I have more faith in the younger lot doing something this season. For me he’s an end product player who is really poor outside of goals, and hence when that isn’t working - it hasn’t for 2 /3 seasons - he’s a complete liability. Moreover he’s the wrong profile of player for a big club - poor at possession football, poor at pressing, poor even at working hard etc and more suited stylistically to a West Ham.
If Amad and Garnacho don’t bench him within the next few games there’s clearly some sort of higher up order to play him no matter what. It’s sickening he can get paid what he earns and yet put in shite performances 4 out of 5 matches
Ditch the PR company, delete social media accounts, get his head down and set himself a target that in each of his first 15 games of this season, he will run further than he did in the last.
If that doesn't get recognition from the fans and see an upturn in his form, I'll eat my hat.
Confidence is a double edged sword when it comes to someone like Marcus, because with confidence comes a sense of self importance that ends up negatively impacting his game. Working harder is the answer.
Certainly not at his best, but I thought he did well today. Good work rate, tracked back well and got into some decent offensive positions. Still don’t think he should be starting though.
You clearly did.
He had 14 goals in 22 league games from the left wing, playing with a stress fracture in his back. We signed Bruno right after Rashford had to stop playing. He was our top scorer up to the point of injury.
I could only watch the first 15 minutes, but I remember him tracking Bobb back all the way into our box, already a remarkable improvement from last season based on that alone.
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It’s entirely possibly that’s just the best he could ever offer us. It’s entirely possible he’s past it and now a sunk cost. And to be honest I’m probably 60/40 on him in terms of only just preferring to give him one more season to double check what his level is. I don’t think it’s £300k a weeks worth.
However from the clubs perspective you have a youth academy player, current top scorer at the club, in his peak years, on a big contract and a local lad.
Now you can argue the relevance of those to the performance aspect of the club but financially we don’t have the money to replace him this window and address other more pressing concerns. Nor do we have the ability to easily offload him whilst also looking for suitors for Greenwood, Sancho and others.
Keeping Rashford is a calculated risk given he does offer a unique upside if he can perform to a previous standard that we don’t have guaranteed in the squad but we also can’t buy that guarantee into the squad.
In an ideal world we’d sign Nico Williams and sell him to PSG to cover the fee.
The key to our season lies in selling rashford and sancho. We could use their fees for a DM and a left back and be far more confident about year ahead.
They add nothing, nothing, nothing to this squad
They add nothing, nothing, nothing to this squad
Rashford is a wide left forward, he's not a CF or a right wide forward, that's as defined as you get
In this preseason you can't really fault his demeanour or his work ethic, the only thing you can really fault is his finishing, come Monday I'm sure RvN will be having words
In the second half he actually won a header from a cross that McT should have scored from
Rashford is in his prime years, is the “star” of club, receives superstar wages, so we have to judge him against those standards. Not the standards of a boy who just broke into the first team or the 4th string backup in an injury crisis. 22/23 form should be the normal expectation. feck his tracking back. Beat a man and put in some goals, and earn that check.
Absolutely. But if we sell both of them, we should get a number 9 as we will be thin in attack. I will definitely buy Toney if available for under 40m and we need a DM.
Yes we need LB, but its a 3rd priority if we sell them both.
He’s clearly lacking a bit of confidence but he’s at least getting in the right positions today and working harder without the ball. On another day he’d have scored a couple and the same people saying sell him would be saying he’s back to his best.
I think he’ll come good when he finally hits the back of the net and we need to keep faith with him. Garnacho is more effective from the right where defenders fear him going on the outside. He and Amad can compete for that role while Rashford and Sancho compete on the left. New season, clean slate. We aren’t going to get the money we want for these players off the back of last season’s showing. A performing Rashford is a dangerous weapon, and he should be mentally refreshed from the break he’s had.
More positives than negatives today for me, but I am an optimist.
I think he’ll come good when he finally hits the back of the net and we need to keep faith with him. Garnacho is more effective from the right where defenders fear him going on the outside. He and Amad can compete for that role while Rashford and Sancho compete on the left. New season, clean slate. We aren’t going to get the money we want for these players off the back of last season’s showing. A performing Rashford is a dangerous weapon, and he should be mentally refreshed from the break he’s had.
More positives than negatives today for me, but I am an optimist.
Would only sell next summer if Kvaratskhelia or Williams were open to replacing him then
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Sell Antony and replace with either of those next summer regardless.
Oh yeah he should never have been signed
The “key to our season”, really?
Looks like it’s going to be a shocker of a season then, no way Rashford is going anywhere.
Ya, if its true that we need to sell to buy, selling the dregs who can command a fee is absolutely key. Rashford and sancho out, 2 key players in, or even one DM. That's absolutely key and rashford and sancho add nothing
If we can get a DM without selling then fine, but we'd get ok money for them
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Kvaratskhelia Is the dream signing.
Kvaratskhelia Is the dream signing.
From a corner none the less, clearly Ruuds been telling him that he’s talk and should be able to head too
No Williams would be more effective
Wont happen, certainly Rashford, he's going no where. It also isnt the key to us having a good season either!
Problem with replacing Rashford is we’d have to find someone who’s ready now. If we have too many project players (Yoro, Mainoo, Amad, Garnacho, Hojlund, Amass) it might raise the question whether players like Bruno, Martinez will want to stick around and wait while they could be using their peak years in winning teams.
Either would be upgrades on him