As what exactly are we going to do with £50m in today’s market? If we decide to sell him let’s make it at least £70m. fecking Everton want that for a one season wonder. At least Rashford has proven he can score across a few seasons, albeit last one being a bad one.
Marcus Rashford (Out) | Ornstein: United want to keep, will only consider substantial bids
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In the latest episode of the United Hour Podcast, Nik (@Rood) and Jamie (@Vault Dweller) get the depressing job of reviewing United's 3-0 loss at Old Trafford to Liverpool. They discuss what went wrong, Casemiro's day to forget, and the pressure now on Erik Ten Hag. They also take some time to give McTominay a proper farewell, and give their overall thoughts on the Summer Transfer Window.
If you could make one deal with summer, you would not trade Rashford for DeLigt, Yoro or Ugarte ?
You’re still left with a gaping hole on the left wing. It’s creating a new problem while fixing three others. My point is keep him at least one more year till we find a suitable replacement and then sell him. We have enough issues as it is to fix this summer. Give it 12 more months. Who knows he might even get 20 goals.
Or get a huge fee where we can go out and get a replacement right away.
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I’d accept 50m for him too. Obviously better to get as high a fee but I don’t he’d be this enormous loss as made out to be. I’d anyway play Garnacho over him if both are fit because he what the right mentality (right now). And you can get good players for 50m, didn’t Liverpool sign Diaz for 35/40?
No, we can't even agree if De Ligt is worth it, Yoro hasn't proven anything, and Ugarte isn't even the type of 6 we want in the long run
The truth with Rashford is that he shouldn't have ever been our focal point in our attack, he's good not world class. But we haven't even tried to get anyone that's better than him so instead we're forced to make him the main guy. If we got another player or two that was better than him, Rashford would actually be more effective. Our best attacker since Rashford has been in the team is an old Zlatan, and Lukaku. Both players who only had 1-2 good seasons while in the club.
Make Rashford the secondary or tertiary point of attack and he'd be better. Is he paid a lot? Yes, but is that his fault or the clubs?
When does the window close? Still time to do the right thing.
Send him and Sancho to PSG while we still can get money for them.
If Rashford had even had a semi-decent season, I’m sure PSG would’ve come sniffing for him after Mbappe left.. but now they probably don’t want to risk it considering the fees and wages package to get him
But he worked so hard in preseason
They have done worse things.
'Substantial bids' haha nobody is paying more than 25m for him.
Exactly, done. Past tense.
They’ve been much wiser recently. Starting with getting L Enrique in. Their squad depth & balance has improved. So have their midfield signings. An improved Ruiz & new signing Neves will make them better going forward.
As for LW, I think they have high hopes with Barcola and hence why they haven’t really gone all out for a new signing like Leao or Rashford as they had wanted to previously.
The fact we've signed De Ligt doesn't bode well for Rashford IMO
We've signed Loro as a starter, surely.
And we've now signed De Ligt as a starter, right?
Looks to me, and given today's line-up, the plan is to put Butcher on the left as main backup for Shaw.
Butcher on the left is definitely not what Rashford needs, he needs a wide attacking FB running overlaps and making space
We've signed Loro as a starter, surely.
And we've now signed De Ligt as a starter, right?
Looks to me, and given today's line-up, the plan is to put Butcher on the left as main backup for Shaw.
Butcher on the left is definitely not what Rashford needs, he needs a wide attacking FB running overlaps and making space
Guess we are stuck with a overpayed and mediocre Rashford then..
The guy have showed up one season to get a new huge contract then back to beeing mediocre.
Another shiet contract renewal biting us in the ass for years to come.
Hopefully he’ll have a decent season this year and we’ll find a buyer for him and move him on next summer.. I think an in-form Garnacho & proactive strikers will make it hard for him to play a full season and that should bother him enough to move on if an offer comes in
At PSG the problem is always the same, there's an invisible countdown running until Nasser loses patience. Campos and Luis Enrique definitely improved them and the stupidity and personal humiliation of the Mbappé drama probably bought them a lot of time and good will. Recruitment definitely improved last two summers. I wouldn't expect they'll come for Rashford. Currently looks too one dimensional and not the transcendental talent you get a glimpse of during his best years.
Sancho is a younger, more creative player you could take a gamble on with the right system.
I hope both Garnacho and Amad will start ahead of Rashford this season and i think you will be right.
EtH with his new staff do have to find a new way to get Rashford going. He is earning a lot, he is a Manchester icon since coming through the academy and will not have a buyer any time soon.
But Rash, to me at least, still seems like a good guy with all the qualities but just not getting his stuff together. I really hope that they can get him going!
But Rash, to me at least, still seems like a good guy with all the qualities but just not getting his stuff together. I really hope that they can get him going!
I think Nasser has also learned his lessons.
The days of signing stars without purpose are behind him and the club.
The manager market is also quite different nowadays so he’s probably not in a rush to fire Enrique and allow him to build a good squad and chemistry.
It’s high time they win a CL now and they probably won’t risk buying players like Rashford unless he proves he’s consistent. There’s a higher chance they go for Leao than Rashford at the moment.
Sancho fits their system perfectly though. And dembele is always injury prone and Barcola too young to handle a full season so Sancho gives them cover on both wings and I’m pretty sure they will end up signing him before the transfer window closes
Feel like pure shit just want him gone
I thought Rashford played a decent game today, 6/7 out of 10. Like most of our players, his finishing isn’t really sharp yet, but he worked very disciplined defensively, went on several good runs, and got into goal scoring positions.
For me, three out of four wide forwards on show did well. Maybe it won’t be a crisis position this year?
For me, three out of four wide forwards on show did well. Maybe it won’t be a crisis position this year?
I agree, apart from all his faults, I think if our training and general on-field play and possession stats improves, statistically it’ll bring a better return from Rashford as well..
There needs to be specific training for him to consciously get rid of his brain farts and play smarter..
He’s the one player in the team who could fetch good money (65m+) which could fund a world class replacement like Kvara. He really doesn’t contribute anywhere near enough to be first choice and paid as much as he is.
Should be dropped against Fulham. Garnacho and Diallo should signify our future now, Rashford has more than enough opportunities. A purple patch every two seasons isn't what a United starting winger should offer.
A new contract?!
No decent European team is willing to pay anywhere close to 65m for him at the moment.. wages have to be considered as well additionally.. PSG was my best hope but they don’t seem like they’re interested either
As some posters said above, I’d even be happy with 50m..
Saudi clubs seem like the only ones who could pay the sums you mentioned but Rashford sure as hell not going to Saudi during his prime years
Swap him with Oscar Bobb. Give City money on top
If he scores either one of his chances today, then it's a great day. If he scored another after that, it's even better and we'd all be so optimistic about the season ahead. For me, I just find him frustrating because his finishing is so inconsistent and he goes off the boil far too quickly. With players that don't perform that well or go off it for long periods, you can forgive them a little bit if some of the chances go in. But, he hasn't got that going for him or didn't have it going for him last year. Today was a slightly better overall performance, but no end product.
I find him frustrating because he's not offering a lot. In the position we want him to play (up top), he didn't get the goals last season. I find it odd that he still hasn't defined what his position is after so long, and we now have more promising players in those positions that are more exciting to watch. I find him to be position-less and we are simply playing him because of his "name" and what he means to the club, or has meant to the club before.
My heart wants him to turn it around and for his play to improve massively.
My head says that we need to move on from him. I question how many United fans would have him in their first 11.
I find him frustrating because he's not offering a lot. In the position we want him to play (up top), he didn't get the goals last season. I find it odd that he still hasn't defined what his position is after so long, and we now have more promising players in those positions that are more exciting to watch. I find him to be position-less and we are simply playing him because of his "name" and what he means to the club, or has meant to the club before.
My heart wants him to turn it around and for his play to improve massively.
My head says that we need to move on from him. I question how many United fans would have him in their first 11.
We will never be able to sell him.
Yup. Forever ours, face of the club etc
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A slightly better finish today and I’m not sure he’d have this level of criticism levied at him.
I though his pressing, work rate and overall offensive play was a bit better and his counter with Garnacho a clear sign of how he can be very useful in transition.
I though his pressing, work rate and overall offensive play was a bit better and his counter with Garnacho a clear sign of how he can be very useful in transition.
300K per week for that. Garnacho and Amad were absolutely miles better than him and actually made stuff happen rather than just mess it up. He’s a counter attack specialist (not a great one either) who gets paid a fortune. A right old mess we’ve got ourselves into.
Anyway hope he picks up form this season so he contributed and we’re able to get rid.
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I’ve made posts on him before and I agree it’s a madness that’s he’s earning that much without having the consistency to back it up.
However he is the only player in our squad whose ceiling is good enough to be a top forward at the moment.
Højlund could become that player one day, as could Garnacho maybe but Rashford is the peak player.
Don’t get me wrong give me Nico Williams and I’d take him in a heart beat but is there a player available to us at market for a fee we can afford this season to replace him with?
Or are we better off just seeing if he’s got a season like 22/23 in him again?
I’d say unquestionably the latter but this is last chance saloon.
I will never understand the amount of hate Rashford gets. Carried this club with a broken back before Bruno arrived then brought us to a top three finish the season before last.
He's struggling currently, but I'll never not support him.
He's struggling currently, but I'll never not support him.
I think i must have missed that part.
No hate, but gratitude for the past past performances can only go so far. Doesn't deserve a place in the team right now, looks like yesterday man when compared with the younger wingers.
When he looked like he cared, he was absolutely worshipped.
He gets hate now because he makes getting paid £300k a week to play football for Manchester United look like the most miserable and painful job in the world.
I’d think he’s miserable because of his form, knowing he’s capable of being better. I hope he gets a couple of early goals to get some confidence back.
To be honest I think people hang on too much to 22/23. I feel he is unlikely to recover that form infornt of goal - he got 17 league goals and I don’t see him achieving that again. I have more faith in the younger lot doing something this season. For me he’s an end product player who is really poor outside of goals, and hence when that isn’t working - it hasn’t for 2 /3 seasons - he’s a complete liability. Moreover he’s the wrong profile of player for a big club - poor at possession football, poor at pressing, poor even at working hard etc and more suited stylistically to a West Ham.