Marcus Rashford (Out) | Ornstein: United want to keep, will only consider substantial bids

Just fecking stop your social media accounts (or at least that stupid twitter shit) until your playing career is over you dumbass. Or only follow stuff that won’t affect you.

Kids these days, Jesus.
 
All fans want is for players to show that they care. Rashford body language screams I fcking don't care about the club, the teammates, the manager and the fans. So in theory he could be a man and take the abuse coming his way take it on the chin and man up roll his sleeves up and put the work in. But he is just not that into it. We need people who are. Sell him the sooner the better.
I agree with you mate. I'm fed up with Rashford and think it would be best for him to leave.

I've never experienced having thousands and thousands of people tag me and abuse me. I'm sure it makes you feel like absolute shit. I'm not going to downplay the effect that, that may have on someone. Best thing to do would be to not log into your social media accounts.
 
Abuse is not OK. Unfortunately, I am sure that Rashford has received some disgusting and vile DMs. I am for Manchester United to take any legal action against abusers to protect Rashford and help him.

That does not change the fact that he should be sold ASAP.

(BTW I don't count moaning and booing as abuse. comments in social media calling for Rashford to be sold or benched are not abuse. I am referring to the kind of comments Rashford received after the Euros and knowing humanity, he has probably received this type of comments constantly)
 
This guy is ridiculously sensitive.
It comes with territory of no criticism generation, the only positive no criticism environment where those players were grown up. They basically cannot process criticism and everything is someone else's fault never their own.
 
It does feel like he's becoming mentally weaker but also none of us have any idea of the amount of abuse he may be getting. It's a dickhead move to personally message a footballer and abuse them. It was shitty to do to Maguire and if Rashford is getting similar then it's just as bad.

He's obviously not in a great headspace and may be spiralling seeking this kind of stuff out, but it doesn't make him a tosser or a dickhead or anything like that.

The thing is, he could so easily just turn it off. Either delete the accounts entirely, or just have a social media team take care of it with some generic posts following games, like I suspect a lot of players already do. He could shut off his access to it completely. I can't think of any reason not to do that, if it really does affect him that much.
 
It comes with territory of no criticism generation, the only positive no criticism environment where those players were grown up. They basically cannot process criticism and everything is someone else's fault never their own.

This is a bit reductive. You don't know how well or badly he responds to criticism from those that matter like manager, coaches, team-mates & family. But you'll drive yourself mad if you listen to 'criticism' from the general public. He probably gets some absolutely vile things in his inbox (likely less face to face because people are cowards). Whether he should be checking that is one thing but it doesn't make it right. All he's talking about here is abuse he's gotten. You don't know what specifically he's talking about.
 
The thing is, he could so easily just turn it off. Either delete the accounts entirely, or just have a social media team take care of it with some generic posts following games, like I suspect a lot of players already do. He could shut off his access to it completely. I can't think of any reason not to do that, if it really does affect him that much.

Yeah he definitely should. For whatever reason he hasn't though which doesn't excuse any abuse he's seen. Sometimes it may be unavoidable (overhears a radio show, people in public or whatever)
 
It comes with territory of no criticism generation, the only positive no criticism environment where those players were grown up. They basically cannot process criticism and everything is someone else's fault never their own.
Love a lazy generalisation.
 
The thing is, he could so easily just turn it off. Either delete the accounts entirely, or just have a social media team take care of it with some generic posts following games, like I suspect a lot of players already do. He could shut off his access to it completely. I can't think of any reason not to do that, if it really does affect him that much.
I have no doubt he already has social media team taking care of it , while there is no excuse for the abuse and it should be dealt with appropriately it seems Rashford and his PR team tend to lean into it more whenever criticism against his performances ramps up .

Call me cynical but I believe it's quite manipulative and calculative from Rashford and his PR team .
 
To be fair, I'd say the level of scrutiny is unimaginable for us common folk. There's also no doubt in my mind that it does cross over into abuse a lot of the time too.

But in many ways its separate to the other issue, the other issue being that he's a an incredibly highly paid elite athlete at a massive club and most weeks he doesn't try. I personally don't think he doesn't try because he's not arsed, I think he just retreats into himself when things get tough, in other words he's scared. He's only human and we all react differently to different circumstances but it doesn't make it acceptable and I reckon we should sell him.
 
To be fair, I'd say the level of scrutiny is unimaginable for us common folk. There's also no doubt in my mind that it does cross over into abuse a lot of the time too.

But in many ways its separate to the other issue, the other issue being that he's a an incredibly highly paid elite athlete at a massive club and most weeks he doesn't try. I personally don't think he doesn't try because he's not arsed, I think he just retreats into himself when things get tough, in other words he's scared. He's only human and we all react differently to different circumstances but it doesn't make it acceptable and I reckon we should sell him.
300k per week is also unimaginable for us common folk.

Rashford could just leave and play elsewhere and still gets paid more than 99% of his countrymen.
 
300k per week is also unimaginable for us common folk.

Rashford could just leave and play elsewhere and still gets paid more than 99% of his countrymen.
Absolutely, but I suppose the idea is that he gets paid largely for the scrutiny he'll come under and not the abuse he gets. That's an ideal world though and often there's a fine line between the two, it depends on his perception as well. I get the impression he might view a lot of justified criticism as abuse. At the moment he is his own worst enemy.
 
He needs to keep off social media. You also have to question what the people around him are telling him about his performances and application.
 
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He needs to keep off social media. You also have to question what the people around him her telling him about his performances and application.

Probably surrounded by yes men constantly telling him his shit performances is everyone else’s fault.
 
According to Partrid....eh Goldbridge the whole thing got triggered by a clip with an elderly united fan. I have now found the clip and if that is the case I understand it. Not only does she call him Rashford with a T in front but even worse she claims he wasnt injured and that he is faking injuries.
That is absolutely abuse and I can understand if Rashy doesnt want to take that. In fact we as a fanbase should call out these kind of terrible outbursts. Its enough our rivals hurl abuse at our players, we shouldnt.
Criticizing Rashford for his on field performances is absolutely fair in my opinion but insinuating that he is faking injuries or childish namecalling is disgusting behaviour.
 
According to Partrid....eh Goldbridge the whole thing got triggered by a clip with an elderly united fan. I have now found the clip and if that is the case I understand it. Not only does she call him Rashford with a T in front but even worse she claims he wasnt injured and that he is faking injuries.
That is absolutely abuse and I can understand if Rashy doesnt want to take that. In fact we as a fanbase should call out these kind of terrible outbursts. Its enough our rivals hurl abuse at our players, we shouldnt.
Criticizing Rashford for his on field performances is absolutely fair in my opinion but insinuating that he is faking injuries or childish namecalling is disgusting behaviour.
A fan saying that a player is faking injuries is not abuse. Let's get some perspective here. Not sticking up for Goldbridge, he's a cretin.
 
According to Partrid....eh Goldbridge the whole thing got triggered by a clip with an elderly united fan. I have now found the clip and if that is the case I understand it. Not only does she call him Rashford with a T in front but even worse she claims he wasnt injured and that he is faking injuries.
That is absolutely abuse and I can understand if Rashy doesnt want to take that. In fact we as a fanbase should call out these kind of terrible outbursts. Its enough our rivals hurl abuse at our players, we shouldnt.
Criticizing Rashford for his on field performances is absolutely fair in my opinion but insinuating that he is faking injuries or childish namecalling is disgusting behaviour.
I agee that this is poor behaviour that we as United fans should disagree with but she’s just random fan right? I’m surprised random tools are being given so much importance. Fans just like any set of people have idiots amongst them. Look Arsenals fan channels and others and how people behave. I’m guessing much worse happens at the grounds.
 
According to Partrid....eh Goldbridge the whole thing got triggered by a clip with an elderly united fan. I have now found the clip and if that is the case I understand it. Not only does she call him Rashford with a T in front but even worse she claims he wasnt injured and that he is faking injuries.
That is absolutely abuse and I can understand if Rashy doesnt want to take that. In fact we as a fanbase should call out these kind of terrible outbursts. Its enough our rivals hurl abuse at our players, we shouldnt.
Criticizing Rashford for his on field performances is absolutely fair in my opinion but insinuating that he is faking injuries or childish namecalling is disgusting behaviour.

Wow, that scares me about this world, I 100% believe some players have faked injuries as they can't be bothered, that's my right to hold that opinion, it isn't disgusting behaviour, it's my opinion. I've never heard anything so insane than to think that's "Disgusting".

I don't think it's conducive or productive to helping our player get some confidence back but you have every right to hold that view, it's naive of the youtuber to not understand the possible ramification but it's so far from disgusting behaviour.
 
Criticism of form is justified, but there is a line that can be (and is) crossed where it becomes more than ciriticism.

I like Rashford, I think he is a great player, but his form this season has not been great, and because of that, he's then trying too much to score goals where he takes on everyone and lashes it in, which only makes things worse.

The best thing that could happen for him is to get dropped for the Euro's, get away and fully recharge and then come back hungry and desperate to make the squad for the World Cup, which could only be good for us.

Let's face it, Saka is a shoe in on the right, and then you've got the likes of Foden, Grealish, Bowen and even Anthony gordon arguably ahead of him for the wife left forward position.
 
Wow, that scares me about this world, I 100% believe some players have faked injuries as they can't be bothered, that's my right to hold that opinion, it isn't disgusting behaviour, it's my opinion. I've never heard anything so insane than to think that's "Disgusting".

I don't think it's conducive or productive to helping our player get some confidence back but you have every right to hold that view, it's naive of the youtuber to not understand the possible ramification but it's so far from disgusting behaviour.

Thinking that is fine, but saying that to a camera, you better have some proper insight.
 
I agee that this is poor behaviour that we as United fans should disagree with but she’s just random fan right? I’m surprised random tools are being given so much importance. Fans just like any set of people have idiots amongst them. Look Arsenals fan channels and others and how people behave. I’m guessing much worse happens at the grounds.
Needs to be more Ibra - "a lion doesn't concern himself with the opinions of a sheep".

He really does need thicker skin if that's what triggered it...
 
I agee that this is poor behaviour that we as United fans should disagree with but she’s just random fan right? I’m surprised random tools are being given so much importance. Fans just like any set of people have idiots amongst them. Look Arsenals fan channels and others and how people behave. I’m guessing much worse happens at the grounds.

Random tools should be ignored absolutely, sadly in the age of social media that is not the case. Look at how big Goldbridge has become and he is an absolute idiot. Heck our club just "signed a contract" with Speed...
 
I don't know why there's an obsession around here about selling Rashford to PSG. There hasn't been any noise on the french side for a long time, they already have a Mbappé replacement position-wise in Barcola, and Rashford doesn't seem to match Luis Enrique's tactics, with the latter having solidified its status and power at Paris these last few months.

I would be very surprised if it happened. If they sign a big name this summer, it probably won't be at Mbappé's position.

Yeah Mbappé's replacements are a combination of Barcola and Simons. Then they have Asensio, Dembélé, Ramos and Kolo-Muani for the other positions.
 
Wow, that scares me about this world, I 100% believe some players have faked injuries as they can't be bothered, that's my right to hold that opinion, it isn't disgusting behaviour, it's my opinion. I've never heard anything so insane than to think that's "Disgusting".

I don't think it's conducive or productive to helping our player get some confidence back but you have every right to hold that view, it's naive of the youtuber to not understand the possible ramification but it's so far from disgusting behaviour.
Having an opinion and abusing another human being are two very different things. One of them can definitely be qualified as disgusting behavior.
 
If social media messages bother him so much he can turn off all of those DMs.
 
The reported abuse is not good in any light. But Rashford has been the creator of his own downfall here. His attitude on the pitch as been woeful all season long - he cannot expect to be one of the clubs highest earners without some kind of criticism when he is at this level.
He could set this right easily by turning up and getting sweaty on match day, rather than sauntering around the pitch like the football world owes him some kind of respect because he has a big contract. He doesn't look like he cares one bit so why would supporters not openly criticise him?
Maybe this latest issue will force him to put some effort in to either on the pitch performance or to getting a transfer. One of those options is going to have to be exercised if there is any decent outcome now.
 
According to Partrid....eh Goldbridge the whole thing got triggered by a clip with an elderly united fan. I have now found the clip and if that is the case I understand it. Not only does she call him Rashford with a T in front but even worse she claims he wasnt injured and that he is faking injuries.
That is absolutely abuse and I can understand if Rashy doesnt want to take that. In fact we as a fanbase should call out these kind of terrible outbursts. Its enough our rivals hurl abuse at our players, we shouldnt.
Criticizing Rashford for his on field performances is absolutely fair in my opinion but insinuating that he is faking injuries or childish namecalling is disgusting behaviour.

but what has Rantbridge to do with it? If anything has been defending Rashford.

on a side note: I don’t get this whole Goldbrige hate. He is a level-headed guy, sometimes a prick but that’s all
 
but what has Rantbridge to do with it? If anything has been defending Rashford.

on a side note: I don’t get this whole Goldbrige hate. He is a level-headed guy, sometimes a prick but that’s all

He was the guy that mentioned the clip. And fair play to him he criticised it heavily
 
but what has Rantbridge to do with it? If anything has been defending Rashford.

on a side note: I don’t get this whole Goldbrige hate. He is a level-headed guy, sometimes a prick but that’s all

You don't get why United fans don't like a Forest fan pretending to be a United fan?
 
Don't know any United fan who'd keep him and I mean match going reds, unfortunately going to be very difficult to get rid of him.
 
Should probably mention that this is specifically directed at that Goldbridge idiot.
Let's say that Goldbridge is in the wrong in asking Rashford to fight for the cause. You know what's the best way to shut his gob? Work hard on the pitch. Why hasn't Rashford done that?
 
I don't think it's fair to compare modern day players to players that played before the social media era. They would get abused at games. Once they went home, it stopped. That isn't the case for players any more.

I do agree that he likely doesn't have the mentality to be our top man. If you're playing badly, you have to accept that you will be criticised. There are many people that take it too far, but that's life.
He doesn't have to be on social media though, that's his choice