Every good performance from Rashford means we may be able to sell him in summer. And given our financial situation we need sales badly (especially if we want to keep Garnacho).
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Season Average Rating
- Appearances
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- Goals
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- Assists
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- Yellow cards
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Keep in mind it also means there's nothing wrong with him, he just can't be arsed to play for us.
He's merely upping his game for another bumper pay day. He did it to us on more than one occasion and then his form fell off a cliff.
22/23 season of his life. July 2023 gets an improved contract until 2028 and he's been poor ever since.
I read the feedback in here after the game, and got the impression he hadn’t played well. Then I watched the highlights and he looked electric. Wonder if he will have some consistent form now.
I knew he hated United.
Only kidding, we need him primed for a sale this summer. It is key.
Only kidding, we need him primed for a sale this summer. It is key.
Our fans are salty because Rashford could magically ‘be arsed’ or whatever. For me, this speaks to a toxic workplace environment that infects everyone at OT. Anyone ever had to go to work at a place you hate? You are never at your best. Don’t care how much money he was paid.
There’s something seriously rotten at OT. Look an Antony now.
ESPN are the biggest ABU’s out there so expect to see tweets like this on a weekly basis until the end of the season.
Certainly feels that way at times
I'm pretty sure he already has signed up terms if Villa exercise the option. That's pretty standard, what's the point of loans with options (Rashford) or obligation triggers (Sancho) if players can then walk away or hold either club to ransom?
Are you suggesting that he’s already signed a contract with Villa and it’s only triggered if they exercise the £40m option?
Like the kid (More so when he was a kid)
Love his lore (Proper burst onto the scene)
Over his chapter (The constant media chatter is draining. The performances have been abysmal since the contract)
Love his lore (Proper burst onto the scene)
Over his chapter (The constant media chatter is draining. The performances have been abysmal since the contract)
Surely that’s exactly what an option to buy at a fixed fee involves? Without that the £40m quoted becomes completely meaningless.
It’s not completely meaningless, it’s first refusal at £40m, not an obligation to buy. If he did well at Villa for example, let’s say scored 15 goals and Chelsea came in offering us £70m, we’re contractually obliged to sell accept £40m from Villa and if Rashford chooses to go there that’s that, out of our hands.
As I understand it, he has a contract agreed. If Chelsea, say, want to buy him for £70m, Villa could exercise the option to pay £40m and then sell him for the extra £30m.
If he had a contract agreed with Villa why has he twice now referred to his time there as, “short”?
Think through that again. In that example, Rashford holds all the cards in a £30M spread so winds up signing for Villa at 40M with an insane salary. That is, if Villa still find any value there. Basically, both parties have left the final decision and transaction to Rashford's whim. Loans with options would simply not be a thing under those circumstances.
It's not a first refusal, it's an option to buy. Contractual terms in the event of the option being triggered are agreed. Same if there's an obligation to buy or some random trigger like CL qualification or whatever. At the time the loan is agreed the player can make it all fall on its arse by not playing ball, but not further down the line.
What could happen though is Barca being OK with a £50M fee so Villa execute their option, sell on and make a cool £10M. Out of our hands indeed, we've basically sold him for £40M either way. The only use in having other suitors with a standard option is not having Villa turn around in June and say "hmmm, all good but I'd rather pay you 30M, you ok with that?".
I guess because until they exercise the option he’s only there on loan for the rest of the season. Would be pretty presumptuous to refer to himself as a permanent Villa player.
Maybe because he is confident other clubs will be willing to offer £45-50m, at which point he would get that move be it via Villa or not.
Villa have nothing to lose either way. For the next few months, he is motivated to play well to get a move elsewhere. If someone else makes a move, easy money. If nobody does then they have a decision to make but after getting a good few months with us subsidising wages.
The player still needs to agree to the transfer at the moment it happens, regardless of an option being exercised in June, if Marcus decides he doesn't fancy Birmingham and wants to stay at United for another 3 years, then he can.
That's not how it works.
Barcelona won't bid more than 40m. That's stupidity.
They just need to bid 40m. And wait for Rashford to turn down Villa contract offer, then back to United accepting Barcelona offer and Rashford agree
They cant and dont need to outbid Villa 40M because they have first option, and Rashford would have picked Barca if given the choice. If they're being an arse they could have bid 20M and expect Rashford to push for the move since the relationship is already untenable.
How can you stipulate a contract when Villa only has an *option" to buy and it hasnt been exercised, technically Rashford is 100% United player. He can't and hasn't signed any agreement to move next year, hence it's an option to buy and not an obligation to buy
So Rashford still has to agree moving permanent to Villa, including a new wage negotiation. If that doesnt work Villa will send him back to United.
Barcelona knowing United already wanted to sell for 40M to Villa, wont stupidly bid 70M
So unless United has a personal grudge with Barcelona and refuse to sell Rashford for 40M, they will get Rashford. And Rashford will push for the move if it's Barcelona.
If left down to Rashford's 11th hour decisions then both clubs have signed the square root of feck all and Barca can still go in at 20M if they wanted.
The entire point of the option is that the club taking the player on loan have an incentive to play and invest in someone they can either keep or make a profit on by capturing the difference in valuation. If the player hasn't agreed terms in advance then all power rests with the player. I wouldn't be at all surprised if we did stuff that way but almost every other club certainly won't, including Villa.
It goes both ways. If Rashford flops they can say no thanks.
Plus at the end of the day the players has to want to sign the dotted line, which Rashford hasnt beyond the 6 months loan period
It really pains me to admit that I find Slot quite likeable. fecking annoying in fact.
I think he’s started showing true colours recently. That Scouse twattishness can’t hide forever.
A toxic workplace that Rashford has played his part in creating (unless you consider nights out before games, leaking to the press, and pre-arranged interviews with Henry Winter to explain exit plans to be model employee behaviour.) Something is indeed seriously messed up at OT and Rashford has played his own (albeit small) part in that.
Maybe it's the appearance, but I find him strangely comforting in a kind of Varys-from-GOT way.
I think it's also a matter of playing in a weaker league.
The difference could be simply the opponent is just a fraction of second slower, suddenly your moves seems to click. EPL defenders are mostly very athletic and very strong to close down players, especially players they know are one trick pony
I draw an analogy to playing in a gold tier in e-sport instead of platinum tier, suddenly everything seems easier, youre suddenly faster in reaction time, your opponent seems slower and you simply play better.
10 man Ipswich.
And? I read he hadn’t played well, watched the highlights, and he looked the most dangerous player on the pitch.
The forum are trying to cut out this kind of name calling of players, I believe. Is that really necessary?But he's red through and through and loves the club the cnut!
The "and" is that it means sweet FA. He could score 10 consecutive hat tricks and it would not matter because everybody knows that eventually, Rashford will revert to type. A player that unreliable cannot lead a club and should never be its highest paid player.
It is yes because he's taken the piss and consistently gone on the piss since he got his big contract and has hardly earnt a 3rd of it while obviously leaking line ups etc.
Actually I'm not going to list all the reasons because it's been done over and over.
If you can't see why people say these things especially after seeing him instantly put effort in you must've been living under a rock for the last few years.
He has had huge pressure and responsibility for years, and he got run out of his club by a section of its own fans. Yes, he's overpaid. Yes, he stopped trying. Yes, he became depressed. Yes, he's been shite for large periods of time at united. Yes..... all these things are true, and related.But he's red through and through and loves the club the cnut!
Okay then, mate. As I said, the forum is actively trying to reduce name calling and vile insults of players.
That wasn’t the point being discussed, but okay.
What a surprise.
All the pressure and responsibility comes with the biggest contract at the biggest club in the world.
And you can't just claim he's depressed. Nobody actually knows what's up with him but everyone can see he's a big part of the state we're in.