So, without being a smartarse, none of us should be offering any opinions on here until, with hindsight, we've been proven right? Did you, for example, take the same view when Moyes was signing Fellaini? As for the bolded part, is there anyone on here that actually thinks they know better than Van Gaal? But you'd have to be nuts to think he, or any manager, is infallible.
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So, without being a smartarse, none of us should be offering any opinions on here until, with hindsight, we've been proven right? Did you, for example, take the same view when Moyes was signing Fellaini? As for the bolded part, is there anyone on here that actually thinks they know better than Van Gaal? But you'd have to be nuts to think he, or any manager, is infallible.
Yeah on this site people use to routinely question Ferguson and he has a much better record than Van Gaal.
Van Gaal's transfer record is not what marks him out as a top manager. He is a coach first and foremost.
Quite often he likes to bring in players he thinks he can school, or who he thinks are schooled the right way. Rojo is an example who definitely looks like he needs some schooling.
Quite often he likes to bring in players he thinks he can school, or who he thinks are schooled the right way. Rojo is an example who definitely looks like he needs some schooling.
I like his name - sounds like a footballer - but his face annoys me. My informed opinion is to sit on the fence on this one.
Personally I disagree with two things. The first is playing 5,3,2 at home to swansea because our width offered very little and as a result we weren't effective in the first half and second we do have the players for a 4,3,3 against swansea at home. Sure defensively we're young but if we play them we have to trust them. If they score one well we score 2. It was a negative move and I hope we get these deals done swiftly.
Hopefully Rojo's English is good and he's the first of a couple quality players.
Hopefully Rojo's English is good and he's the first of a couple quality players.
Yeah and he also got plenty wrong too. Which is why some people questioned certain decisions. I'd be amazed however if there were people who genuinely felt they knew more overall, or that their judgement on footballing matters was better than his.
Exactly, If I watched a full season of Rojo's performances and thought he was rubbish but LVG told me he had seen him play once and thought he was world class I would think I had got it wrong. They are more likely the better judge, not me.
It's nice to have some genuine aggression back into our defence after Vidic 
I dunno mate... Revan definitely thinks that way.
So where are we now if Rojo comes in, everyone gets fit, and Nani, Anderson, Lindegaard and Fellaini leave?
3-4-1-2
-------------------De Gea (Amos/Johnstone)-----------------
---Jones (M.Keane)----Evans (Smalling)-----Rojo (Blackett)---
Valencia (Rafael)---------------------------Shaw (Rojo/Young)
-------------Carrick (Fletcher)--Herrera (Cleverley)-----------
-----------------------Mata (Kagawa/Januzaj)---------------
--------------RVP (Welbeck)----Rooney (Hernandez)---------
Still need a central midfielder and a central defender to make that good enough. Bit of a doubt at RWB too. Could see Carrick dropping back instead of Rojo or Evans if we signed another midfielder.
4-3-3
--------------------------De Gea (Amos/Johnstone)-----------------------------------------
Rafael (Valencia/Varela)--Jones (Smalling/M.Keane)---Evans (Blackett/Rojo)---------Shaw (Rojo)
---------------Herrera (Err..)-------Carrick (Fletcher)----Cleverley (Kagawa)-----------------
Mata/Rooney (Young/Valencia)----RVP (Rooney/Welbeck/Hernandez)----Rooney/Januzaj (Young)
The squad really doesn't look suited to this at all. Rooney and/or Mata would probably have to play either wide or in midfield, and we would be badly short of options in the middle. Januzaj is about the only player we have who really looks suitable as one of the wide attackers. The defence still doesn't look good enough.
3-4-1-2
-------------------De Gea (Amos/Johnstone)-----------------
---Jones (M.Keane)----Evans (Smalling)-----Rojo (Blackett)---
Valencia (Rafael)---------------------------Shaw (Rojo/Young)
-------------Carrick (Fletcher)--Herrera (Cleverley)-----------
-----------------------Mata (Kagawa/Januzaj)---------------
--------------RVP (Welbeck)----Rooney (Hernandez)---------
Still need a central midfielder and a central defender to make that good enough. Bit of a doubt at RWB too. Could see Carrick dropping back instead of Rojo or Evans if we signed another midfielder.
4-3-3
--------------------------De Gea (Amos/Johnstone)-----------------------------------------
Rafael (Valencia/Varela)--Jones (Smalling/M.Keane)---Evans (Blackett/Rojo)---------Shaw (Rojo)
---------------Herrera (Err..)-------Carrick (Fletcher)----Cleverley (Kagawa)-----------------
Mata/Rooney (Young/Valencia)----RVP (Rooney/Welbeck/Hernandez)----Rooney/Januzaj (Young)
The squad really doesn't look suited to this at all. Rooney and/or Mata would probably have to play either wide or in midfield, and we would be badly short of options in the middle. Januzaj is about the only player we have who really looks suitable as one of the wide attackers. The defence still doesn't look good enough.
I think every one of the naysayers will at least admit one thing once they see him play for us - He'll give us back our aggression at the back.
The guy is a bulldozer. This may be part of the problem as he is ill-disciplined, but I think an infusion of Rojo's audacity will prove good for the dressing room. Things are a little too docile for us at the back. Jones is our Kamikaze defender but he has a timid personality. Smalling is a different type of defender. Evans is a good communicator but he's not exactly the most athletic, though he reads the game well.
People underestimate what a crunching tackle, a powerful clearance or an overwhelming defensive movement can do to lift the team. How many times have we looked at a game and thought "Well done Vida! That was proper hard!" - It's a natural lift, akin to almost scoring a goal when the tide is against you.
The guy is a bulldozer. This may be part of the problem as he is ill-disciplined, but I think an infusion of Rojo's audacity will prove good for the dressing room. Things are a little too docile for us at the back. Jones is our Kamikaze defender but he has a timid personality. Smalling is a different type of defender. Evans is a good communicator but he's not exactly the most athletic, though he reads the game well.
People underestimate what a crunching tackle, a powerful clearance or an overwhelming defensive movement can do to lift the team. How many times have we looked at a game and thought "Well done Vida! That was proper hard!" - It's a natural lift, akin to almost scoring a goal when the tide is against you.
Is he? He does seem smallish to me (6.1ft) and his aggression is considered more of a weaknesses then a virtue. He also comes across as more of a nutter version of Rio (technically gifted and a good passer of the ball) then a Vidic
Couldn't agree more. We've no hard bastards in the team. So that aspect of this signing is very welcome.
Kevin too, no?
It's ok if you have a degree in Football though.
I fully expect to wake up tomorrow and hear nothing new on this 
That depends on how many seasons you've completed on FM, no?
Whenever I think of Rojo it reminds me of Greyworm from GOT. Hard bastard.
Make of that what you will.
Make of that what you will.
I fully expect to wake up tomorrow and hear nothing new on this
It's got to that point hasn't it?
Our dealings in the transfer market have been strange. We've spent quite a lot but in a very strange way. We have bought five players in the last year, and arguably only two of them met a clear need. There have been players who seemed keen who we left hanging like Vermaelen while spending ages chasing impossible targets like Ronaldo.
I'd like to get Rojo in. No confidence it will happen in the next few days, and I'd be unsurprised if the deal collapsed.
Tis true that height means a lot for a centre back, but if you're an intelligent player it doesn't matter. Fabio Cannavaro was 5'9 believe it or not and he was a dominant presence in centre back. Now I'm not comparing Rojo with Cannavaro, only saying that if you're intelligent and can jump pretty high 6'1 and 6'3 don't matter too much.
Also, we'll be playing a back three most of the time, so if we Rojo plays in the LCB role, height isn't too much of a bother - it's the brains that matter. His goes kaboom from time to time but he is unquestionably a very good reader of the game.
I'm off to bed now I'm expecting to wake up in the morning to an official announcment from the club.
Around 70 seasons. Thought admittedly that was because I put the game on holiday indefinitely to skip past a winter break and then forgot about it and went away for the weekend.
I fully expect to wake up tomorrow and hear nothing new on this
Don't be ridiculous we will hear the story about how the transfer didn't came through because of Woody unwillingness to pay Rojo flight ticket.
Indeed, he's a professor!
I'm totally underwhelmed by this signing.
Here's hoping he turns out to be a gem.
Here's hoping he turns out to be a gem.
Or he brings Di Maria with him.
Why did they even bother comparing Jones and Smalling's 1 world cup game to Rojo's full world cup at leftback?
Exactly they only played one game because you couldn't trust them in any more games.Why did they even bother comparing Jones and Smalling's 1 world cup game to Rojo's full world cup at leftback?
LVG said in the interview of pre season vs LA, he is working with 352 at the moment due of the number 10 role we have. But he said if it doesn't work then he will change it to 433. It's about time that Giggs needs to step in and say something that 352 was not working against Swansea. Are we really going to take another risk against Sunderland away? Who knows.
Why did they even bother comparing Jones and Smalling's 1 world cup game to Rojo's full world cup at leftback?
True. Guess they don't have Data for Portuguese league.
Giggs would be wise to keep his mouth shut to be honest. Sure he could give his opinion but "stepping in" seems a big aggressive when in terms of managing/coaching he is FAR less knowledgable/experienced than van Gaal.
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Pffft 70 > 26.
We had so many players out (5 starters and their first choice backups) and OT fear factor from last season. Strange to blame a new formation after one game.
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